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15 Nov 2019, 7:38 pm

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The young Turks still push the Russiagate hoax even after it has fallen apart. They don't care about real people. Real people care about real issues. These phonies are scum of the earth.


Which nevertheless produced a number of indictments and convictions (which the Benghazi investigation never did, by the way), the most recent convictions being those of Roger Stone today.

But no matter to you. To you, if you say it often enough people will think it's true.


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15 Nov 2019, 7:50 pm

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The young Turks still push the Russiagate hoax even after it has fallen apart. They don't care about real people. Real people care about real issues. These phonies are scum of the earth.


Which nevertheless produced a number of indictments and convictions (which the Benghazi investigation never did, by the way), the most recent convictions being those of Roger Stone today.

But no matter to you. To you, if you say it often enough people will think it's true.


The whole 'investigation' is based on a hoax and a fake dossier provided by a foreign intelligence officer. So then Stone is accused of lying to the frauds putting together this phony investigation.

You are making yet ANOTHER strawman argument. I have never mentioned Benghazi. Stone is being punished for singing about the Clinton's ties to child rapists. I'm glad you've made clear which side you are on.


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15 Nov 2019, 8:30 pm

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TYT operate emotionally, so it comes across as goofy and unintelligent.


This I think touches the heart of the matter. To "rational" young white guys like yourselves, who like to think you're above your emotions, that would seem like a failing. But I disagree.

I think this emotional expression is important, because politics isn't just some horse race, or some abstract thing where no matter what happens you can just go home at the end of the day. Politics has real consequences, and what I like about the Young Turks, is how they prioritize those consequences. They show the impact politics has on real people living their real lives.

I'm guessing that would make people who would prefer to take a more detached approach feel uncomfortable.


Where do you get your "young white guys" critiques from? YouTube?

And "like yourselves"? You mean guys who are moderate to severely autistic like myself?

You suck at profiling and critiquing people. You do it a lot and you do it poorly. You often list things that go against what's well known about the person like you're some newb who came in out of the blue. It's hard to take you seriously because of stuff like that.

As for TYT it's a YouTube show, and a poorly done one, even by YouTube show standards. You being such a huge fan of it, as if it displayed journalistic integrity and professionalism, which it doesn't, also makes it difficult to take you seriously.



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15 Nov 2019, 8:45 pm

Agreed ^


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15 Nov 2019, 8:48 pm

It is 'liberals' that are the biggest danger to society and they need to be taken on. Trump is the reaction to liberals. But liberals will never learn so those on the real left and the real right have to form a pact to get back to sanity.


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15 Nov 2019, 9:27 pm

EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
TYT operate emotionally, so it comes across as goofy and unintelligent.


This I think touches the heart of the matter. To "rational" young white guys like yourselves, who like to think you're above your emotions, that would seem like a failing. But I disagree.

I think this emotional expression is important, because politics isn't just some horse race, or some abstract thing where no matter what happens you can just go home at the end of the day. Politics has real consequences, and what I like about the Young Turks, is how they prioritize those consequences. They show the impact politics has on real people living their real lives.

I'm guessing that would make people who would prefer to take a more detached approach feel uncomfortable.


Where do you get your "young white guys" critiques from? YouTube?

And "like yourselves"? You mean guys who are moderate to severely autistic like myself?

You suck at profiling and critiquing people. You do it a lot and you do it poorly. You often list things that go against what's well known about the person like you're some newb who came in out of the blue. It's hard to take you seriously because of stuff like that.

As for TYT it's a YouTube show, and a poorly done one, even by YouTube show standards. You being such a huge fan of it, as if it displayed journalistic integrity and professionalism, which it doesn't, also makes it difficult to take you seriously.

Maybe a Freudian slip about a character in a movie. :)

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15 Nov 2019, 9:32 pm

beneficii wrote:
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TYT operate emotionally, so it comes across as goofy and unintelligent.


This I think touches the heart of the matter. To "rational" young white guys like yourselves, who like to think you're above your emotions, that would seem like a failing. But I disagree.

I think this emotional expression is important, because politics isn't just some horse race, or some abstract thing where no matter what happens you can just go home at the end of the day. Politics has real consequences, and what I like about the Young Turks, is how they prioritize those consequences. They show the impact politics has on real people living their real lives.

I'm guessing that would make people who would prefer to take a more detached approach feel uncomfortable.


Rationality and emotionality co-exist. Emotions are necessary to ground humanity and morality. Without them people do pretty poorly in life because they just don't care about anything.

That said emotions ruling reason can lead to sub-optimal decision making. In baseball if a game goes to extra innings most hitters will start swinging for the fences on every play. The emotions of it are as such: players are tired, they want to end the game in a single swing, it feels good to swing for a home run. Of course statistically they'd have a better chance of getting a run to end the game is they went for solid base hits.

Solely appealing to emotions is a poor strategy, because good intentions can have bad consequences.


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15 Nov 2019, 9:53 pm

Well, I guess he's well suited for Congress, seeing how he's very adept at jibber jabbering on about nothing most of the time. He'll fit right in.


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15 Nov 2019, 10:19 pm

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Well, I guess he's well suited for Congress, seeing how he's very adept at jibber jabbering on about nothing most of the time. He'll fit right in.

Just the Senate. The House of Representation does not actually have Filibusters (as my Government teacher put it so well, they have more rules). :oops:


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15 Nov 2019, 10:44 pm

Antrax wrote:
beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
TYT operate emotionally, so it comes across as goofy and unintelligent.


This I think touches the heart of the matter. To "rational" young white guys like yourselves, who like to think you're above your emotions, that would seem like a failing. But I disagree.

I think this emotional expression is important, because politics isn't just some horse race, or some abstract thing where no matter what happens you can just go home at the end of the day. Politics has real consequences, and what I like about the Young Turks, is how they prioritize those consequences. They show the impact politics has on real people living their real lives.

I'm guessing that would make people who would prefer to take a more detached approach feel uncomfortable.


Rationality and emotionality co-exist. Emotions are necessary to ground humanity and morality. Without them people do pretty poorly in life because they just don't care about anything.

That said emotions ruling reason can lead to sub-optimal decision making. In baseball if a game goes to extra innings most hitters will start swinging for the fences on every play. The emotions of it are as such: players are tired, they want to end the game in a single swing, it feels good to swing for a home run. Of course statistically they'd have a better chance of getting a run to end the game is they went for solid base hits.

Solely appealing to emotions is a poor strategy, because good intentions can have bad consequences.


That’s not what TYT does. Their coverage is also forthright and intelligent.


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15 Nov 2019, 10:48 pm

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Well, I guess he's well suited for Congress, seeing how he's very adept at jibber jabbering on about nothing most of the time. He'll fit right in.


So Medicare For All, the Green New Deal, getting money out of politics, and various other issues are mere “jibber-jabber”.

That’s what he spends most of his time talking.

Oh wait, you’re probably just going off your personal impression.


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15 Nov 2019, 10:54 pm

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beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
TYT operate emotionally, so it comes across as goofy and unintelligent.


This I think touches the heart of the matter. To "rational" young white guys like yourselves, who like to think you're above your emotions, that would seem like a failing. But I disagree.

I think this emotional expression is important, because politics isn't just some horse race, or some abstract thing where no matter what happens you can just go home at the end of the day. Politics has real consequences, and what I like about the Young Turks, is how they prioritize those consequences. They show the impact politics has on real people living their real lives.

I'm guessing that would make people who would prefer to take a more detached approach feel uncomfortable.


Where do you get your "young white guys" critiques from? YouTube?

And "like yourselves"? You mean guys who are moderate to severely autistic like myself?

You suck at profiling and critiquing people. You do it a lot and you do it poorly. You often list things that go against what's well known about the person like you're some newb who came in out of the blue. It's hard to take you seriously because of stuff like that.

As for TYT it's a YouTube show, and a poorly done one, even by YouTube show standards. You being such a huge fan of it, as if it displayed journalistic integrity and professionalism, which it doesn't, also makes it difficult to take you seriously.


You say you are moderately to severely autistic do you? More autistic than thou? I seem to remember that recently in another thread you castigated me for not picking up on your sarcasm, something people on the spectrum often have a hard time with. Sure, there are autistic people who can pick up on sarcasm (and I don’t doubt you’re on the spectrum), but they’re probably on the milder end of the spectrum.

It’s hard to take you seriously.


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15 Nov 2019, 10:56 pm

beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
TYT operate emotionally, so it comes across as goofy and unintelligent.


This I think touches the heart of the matter. To "rational" young white guys like yourselves, who like to think you're above your emotions, that would seem like a failing. But I disagree.

I think this emotional expression is important, because politics isn't just some horse race, or some abstract thing where no matter what happens you can just go home at the end of the day. Politics has real consequences, and what I like about the Young Turks, is how they prioritize those consequences. They show the impact politics has on real people living their real lives.

I'm guessing that would make people who would prefer to take a more detached approach feel uncomfortable.


Where do you get your "young white guys" critiques from? YouTube?

And "like yourselves"? You mean guys who are moderate to severely autistic like myself?

You suck at profiling and critiquing people. You do it a lot and you do it poorly. You often list things that go against what's well known about the person like you're some newb who came in out of the blue. It's hard to take you seriously because of stuff like that.

As for TYT it's a YouTube show, and a poorly done one, even by YouTube show standards. You being such a huge fan of it, as if it displayed journalistic integrity and professionalism, which it doesn't, also makes it difficult to take you seriously.


You say you are moderately to severely autistic do you? More autistic than thou? I seem to remember that recently in another thread you castigated me for not picking up on your sarcasm, something people on the spectrum often have a hard time with. Sure, there are autistic people who can pick up on sarcasm (and I don’t doubt you’re on the spectrum), but they’re probably on the milder end of the spectrum.

It’s hard to take you seriously.


We're all impacted differently, in different ways to varying degrees. Are you verbal?


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15 Nov 2019, 11:02 pm

This is the page in question:

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We're all impacted differently, in different ways to varying degrees. Are you verbal?


No, I’m fully verbal. I’m definitely on the milder end of the spectrum.

I appreciate the question. :)


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15 Nov 2019, 11:18 pm

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Well, I guess he's well suited for Congress, seeing how he's very adept at jibber jabbering on about nothing most of the time. He'll fit right in.


So Medicare For All, the Green New Deal, getting money out of politics, and various other issues are mere “jibber-jabber”.

That’s what he spends most of his time talking.

Oh wait, you’re probably just going off your personal impression.


Yeah, that's my personal impression. He's about as exciting as a 50-pound bag of fertilizer. If there's any discernable intellect buried within his barely intelligible tirades and rants, it would require a qualified medical team to bring it back to life.

A more boring mother f****r you could not find.


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15 Nov 2019, 11:24 pm

beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
TYT operate emotionally, so it comes across as goofy and unintelligent.


This I think touches the heart of the matter. To "rational" young white guys like yourselves, who like to think you're above your emotions, that would seem like a failing. But I disagree.

I think this emotional expression is important, because politics isn't just some horse race, or some abstract thing where no matter what happens you can just go home at the end of the day. Politics has real consequences, and what I like about the Young Turks, is how they prioritize those consequences. They show the impact politics has on real people living their real lives.

I'm guessing that would make people who would prefer to take a more detached approach feel uncomfortable.


Where do you get your "young white guys" critiques from? YouTube?

And "like yourselves"? You mean guys who are moderate to severely autistic like myself?

You suck at profiling and critiquing people. You do it a lot and you do it poorly. You often list things that go against what's well known about the person like you're some newb who came in out of the blue. It's hard to take you seriously because of stuff like that.

As for TYT it's a YouTube show, and a poorly done one, even by YouTube show standards. You being such a huge fan of it, as if it displayed journalistic integrity and professionalism, which it doesn't, also makes it difficult to take you seriously.


You say you are moderately to severely autistic do you? More autistic than thou? I seem to remember that recently in another thread you castigated me for not picking up on your sarcasm, something people on the spectrum often have a hard time with. Sure, there are autistic people who can pick up on sarcasm (and I don’t doubt you’re on the spectrum), but they’re probably on the milder end of the spectrum.

It’s hard to take you seriously.


I am way too autistic for the average young white guy stereotype you're trying to fit me into. Which is based on what exactly?

And I apologize for castigating you. It's understandable to me now how you could take a parody of someone melodramatically freaking out as legit after watching some Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian freak out clips.