10 Nov 2021, 12:51 am
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Nades wrote:
It's a bit like doomsday cults. 11 years is oddly specific. Might as well be an exact day where mass suicide will take place on the 23rd hour.
After 11 years it will not make a difference if cuts to carbon emissions are made. I think that's what the number means.
If we only have 11 years, better scoot over to China and stop their 28% of world CO2 emission.
Oh, wait.
They need to build their military to threaten the world and us in particular.
Where is Tom Cruise when you need him? mission impossible
10 Nov 2021, 5:21 am
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Nades wrote:
It's a bit like doomsday cults. 11 years is oddly specific. Might as well be an exact day where mass suicide will take place on the 23rd hour.
After 11 years it will not make a difference if cuts to carbon emissions are made. I think that's what the number means.
If we only have 11 years, better scoot over to China and stop their 28% of world CO2 emission.
Oh, wait.
They need to build their military to threaten the world and us in particular.
Where is Tom Cruise when you need him? mission impossible
I think The Hulk would do a better job.
China embraces the "Might makes right" philosophy, and may listen to he/him.
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10 Nov 2021, 12:51 pm
Nades wrote:
It's a bit like doomsday cults. 11 years is oddly specific. Might as well be an exact day where mass suicide will take place on the 23rd hour.
Math & time are oddly specific.. calculations & forecasts have been made.
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10 Nov 2021, 12:52 pm
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
*Climate*, not just weather, has noticeably changed over just one or two generations. That’s not normal.
Food production has significantly increased, as a result of a warmer climate.
Also, I think god wants the earth's temperature to rise.
The hotter climate mitigates the affect of Covid.
goldfish21 wrote:
More than 60% of wildlife has vanished since 1970. Flying insect populations are down as well. The oceans are acidifying. Green house gasses continue to rise. Ice is melting and methane is being released. “Once in a hundred years,” storms are happening every year.
Etc etc
Etc etc
Species extinction has always happened, apparently, but there is no sign of the Greta style "mass extinction" going on, to my knowledge.
Thankfully, there is still snow in the arctic and the Polar bear population has significantly increased.
Other reports mention storms are less frequent.
Damn, who do you believe?
goldfish21 wrote:
People did this. The Earth will go on, just maybe not inhabited by humans anymore.
That may be a good thing.
Where there is life, there is suffering.
goldfish21 wrote:
That’s why scientists are sounding the alarm telling people to change everything right now or we’re all super F’d. Why take a chance by ignoring them And the obvious signs that things are changing? Makes no sense at all.
I heard a report recently that 500 scientists have signed a paper condemning "Climate Catastrophists" for fear-mongering.
"Interesting".
Dirty filthy humans *are* having an effect on the earth, but catastrophization only destroys the cause's, err, cause.
BTW, Was it Al Gorey who predicted we should all be dead by now?
I don't feel dead.
Hang on...
Nope, still alive.
Probably the same 500 “scientists,” that claim COVID-19 isn’t real.
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goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
*Climate*, not just weather, has noticeably changed over just one or two generations. That’s not normal.
Food production has significantly increased, as a result of a warmer climate.
Also, I think god wants the earth's temperature to rise.
The hotter climate mitigates the affect of Covid.
goldfish21 wrote:
More than 60% of wildlife has vanished since 1970. Flying insect populations are down as well. The oceans are acidifying. Green house gasses continue to rise. Ice is melting and methane is being released. “Once in a hundred years,” storms are happening every year.
Etc etc
Etc etc
Species extinction has always happened, apparently, but there is no sign of the Greta style "mass extinction" going on, to my knowledge.
Thankfully, there is still snow in the arctic and the Polar bear population has significantly increased.
Other reports mention storms are less frequent.
Damn, who do you believe?
goldfish21 wrote:
People did this. The Earth will go on, just maybe not inhabited by humans anymore.
That may be a good thing.
Where there is life, there is suffering.
goldfish21 wrote:
That’s why scientists are sounding the alarm telling people to change everything right now or we’re all super F’d. Why take a chance by ignoring them And the obvious signs that things are changing? Makes no sense at all.
I heard a report recently that 500 scientists have signed a paper condemning "Climate Catastrophists" for fear-mongering.
"Interesting".
Dirty filthy humans *are* having an effect on the earth, but catastrophization only destroys the cause's, err, cause.
BTW, Was it Al Gorey who predicted we should all be dead by now?
I don't feel dead.
Hang on...
Nope, still alive.
Probably the same 500 “scientists,” that claim COVID-19 isn’t real.
What is your rationale for this statement?
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10 Nov 2021, 6:58 pm
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
*Climate*, not just weather, has noticeably changed over just one or two generations. That’s not normal.
Food production has significantly increased, as a result of a warmer climate.
Also, I think god wants the earth's temperature to rise.
The hotter climate mitigates the affect of Covid.
goldfish21 wrote:
More than 60% of wildlife has vanished since 1970. Flying insect populations are down as well. The oceans are acidifying. Green house gasses continue to rise. Ice is melting and methane is being released. “Once in a hundred years,” storms are happening every year.
Etc etc
Etc etc
Species extinction has always happened, apparently, but there is no sign of the Greta style "mass extinction" going on, to my knowledge.
Thankfully, there is still snow in the arctic and the Polar bear population has significantly increased.
Other reports mention storms are less frequent.
Damn, who do you believe?
goldfish21 wrote:
People did this. The Earth will go on, just maybe not inhabited by humans anymore.
That may be a good thing.
Where there is life, there is suffering.
goldfish21 wrote:
That’s why scientists are sounding the alarm telling people to change everything right now or we’re all super F’d. Why take a chance by ignoring them And the obvious signs that things are changing? Makes no sense at all.
I heard a report recently that 500 scientists have signed a paper condemning "Climate Catastrophists" for fear-mongering.
"Interesting".
Dirty filthy humans *are* having an effect on the earth, but catastrophization only destroys the cause's, err, cause.
BTW, Was it Al Gorey who predicted we should all be dead by now?
I don't feel dead.
Hang on...
Nope, still alive.
Probably the same 500 “scientists,” that claim COVID-19 isn’t real.
What is your rationale for this statement?
Almost every expert in the world is in agreement on a topic w/ the exception of a handful of outliers who seem to have their Alex Jones Edition tinfoil hats on too tight/and or are being paid by someone with a particular financial interest in opposing what's commonly accepted as scientific fact.
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goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
*Climate*, not just weather, has noticeably changed over just one or two generations. That’s not normal.
Food production has significantly increased, as a result of a warmer climate.
Also, I think god wants the earth's temperature to rise.
The hotter climate mitigates the affect of Covid.
goldfish21 wrote:
More than 60% of wildlife has vanished since 1970. Flying insect populations are down as well. The oceans are acidifying. Green house gasses continue to rise. Ice is melting and methane is being released. “Once in a hundred years,” storms are happening every year.
Etc etc
Etc etc
Species extinction has always happened, apparently, but there is no sign of the Greta style "mass extinction" going on, to my knowledge.
Thankfully, there is still snow in the arctic and the Polar bear population has significantly increased.
Other reports mention storms are less frequent.
Damn, who do you believe?
goldfish21 wrote:
People did this. The Earth will go on, just maybe not inhabited by humans anymore.
That may be a good thing.
Where there is life, there is suffering.
goldfish21 wrote:
That’s why scientists are sounding the alarm telling people to change everything right now or we’re all super F’d. Why take a chance by ignoring them And the obvious signs that things are changing? Makes no sense at all.
I heard a report recently that 500 scientists have signed a paper condemning "Climate Catastrophists" for fear-mongering.
"Interesting".
Dirty filthy humans *are* having an effect on the earth, but catastrophization only destroys the cause's, err, cause.
BTW, Was it Al Gorey who predicted we should all be dead by now?
I don't feel dead.
Hang on...
Nope, still alive.
Probably the same 500 “scientists,” that claim COVID-19 isn’t real.
What is your rationale for this statement?
Almost every expert in the world is in agreement on a topic w/ the exception of a handful of outliers who seem to have their Alex Jones Edition tinfoil hats on too tight/and or are being paid by someone with a particular financial interest in opposing what's commonly accepted as scientific fact.
I find that hard to believe.
Say it louder.
I might change my mind.
<Pepe adjusts his tin hat>
12 Nov 2021, 7:18 pm
12 Nov 2021, 7:33 pm
12 Nov 2021, 9:04 pm
Aspinator wrote:
To cast a cynical view of this discussion: Until big business finds cutting emissions profitable, nothing will be done.
In addition to alternative energy, the investment in clean emissions technology has also been unsatisfactory because of the reasons you alluded to. Big business has been profiting from fossil fuels and engineering that relies on this primitive fuel source now for a century, Nicola Tesla's work on alternative energy at the turn of the 20th century was never built upon despite laying the foundation for power grids around the world.
Electric car technology is finally being made available but it may be too late. No government has provided efficient incentives for emissions reduction and clean emissions technology in any country. There is no profit for business investing in clean emissions. That is why opposition to carbon trading has been so big and stalled.
Our prime minister is dumb enough to walk into a parliament with a lump of coal.
Future generations suffering from global catastrophe will remember him and Trump and their stupidly that led us quicker to this path.
12 Nov 2021, 9:09 pm
Aspinator wrote:
To cast a cynical view of this discussion: Until big business finds cutting emissions profitable, nothing will be done.
Have you watched Michael Moore's recent video?
Big business has gotten their snouts into the renewable industry bigtime already.
They are making mugs of the environmentalists.
Same old same old.
12 Nov 2021, 9:15 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Aspinator wrote:
To cast a cynical view of this discussion: Until big business finds cutting emissions profitable, nothing will be done.
In addition to alternative energy, the investment in clean emissions technology has also been unsatisfactory because of the reasons you alluded to. Big business has been profiting from fossil fuels and engineering that relies on this primitive fuel source now for a century, Nicola Tesla's work on alternative energy at the turn of the 20th century was never built upon despite laying the foundation for power grids around the world.
Electric car technology is finally being made available but it may be too late. No government has provided efficient incentives for emissions reduction and clean emissions technology in any country. There is no profit for business investing in clean emissions. That is why opposition to carbon trading has been so big and stalled.
Our prime minister is dumb enough to walk into a parliament with a lump of coal.
Future generations suffering from global catastrophe will remember him and Trump and their stupidly that led us quicker to this path.
But will they remember the fact that Australia's CO2 emissions were 1.3% while China's was 28%?
12 Nov 2021, 9:21 pm
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
But will they remember the fact that Australia's CO2 emissions were 1.3% while China's was 28%?
Keep in mind the post I was responding to was in the context of the west.
Russia, India, the Asian tigers and China are merely undergoing the same industrialization we in the west have been going through since the 1880s.
12 Nov 2021, 9:27 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
But will they remember the fact that Australia's CO2 emissions were 1.3% while China's was 28%?
Keep in mind the post I was responding to was in the context of the west.
Russia, India, the Asian tigers and China are merely undergoing the same industrialization we in the west have been going through since the 1880s.
So, you are saying there is no "Climate *Emergency*"?
Kudos.
12 Nov 2021, 9:27 pm
12 Nov 2021, 9:37 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Yes China has contributed (no doubt)
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-wh ... ate-change
But number one on that list on emissions since 1850 is the USA. By a long way. Big business blocking alternative energy research will be one of the legacies we will live with (keep in mind if Tesla coils or some other alternative technology became common place in the US at the turn of the 20th century then it would have been adopted by the Chinese).
The Chinese are equally worried about the future (they are also in the same boat as us and have nowhere to go)
https://www.reuters.com/business/cop/ch ... 021-11-10/
However according to scientists it's too late.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-wh ... ate-change
But number one on that list on emissions since 1850 is the USA. By a long way. Big business blocking alternative energy research will be one of the legacies we will live with (keep in mind if Tesla coils or some other alternative technology became common place in the US at the turn of the 20th century then it would have been adopted by the Chinese).
The Chinese are equally worried about the future (they are also in the same boat as us and have nowhere to go)
https://www.reuters.com/business/cop/ch ... 021-11-10/
However according to scientists it's too late.
"Believe in the science."
Well, now that there is nothing we can do about it, let's have a party!
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