Lecturer At Yale Event Fantasizes About Murdering Whites

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10 Jun 2021, 3:11 am

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Sounds like everyday... even white skinned people who were busy starving somewhere besides North America are responsible for all that ails. That's the sort of thinking that perpetuates segregation.


If you are talking about "White Collective Guilt", I agree that it is an intellectual nonsense spun from political motives. Some people will accept anything if they are hyperpartisan.

Vive la critical thinking. 8)



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10 Jun 2021, 3:25 am

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In fact, the talk in US society about how whites are “privileged” and are constantly “oppressing” everyone else is talk that you in your small way contribute to (notwithstanding the fact you are based in Australia); indeed, you seem to have virtually nothing else to contribute on WP when it comes to politics and current events, so I suppose it’s no surprise that you would have sympathy for this woman. You’ve got to fit her violent, anti-white talk into your narrative somehow haven’t you?

I hope plenty of forum members remember the stuff you’re coming out with on this thread when you decide to lecture us all on morality in future.


Not sure why you (and others) are saying this is about me?


I'd guess it's because a person's actions are a better indicator of their character than their claims regarding it...

If a person is happy to weaponise race against another member on the site (aggravated by the fact they have made assumptions in order to decide whether the racial identifier used was "appropriate" for the member), and assert "racism" against people shown in the media (for actions which were objectively less racist than that under discussion in this thread), then their "impartiality"\"objectivity" is well within bounds of scrutiny.


A rule of thumb, in regard to hyperpartisanship, is the absolute allegiance to a particular political narrative.

Try as I might, there is no, repeat no political position/party that I agree with in its entirety.
I find it fascinating when I see some people agree with *everything/k* that a political party espouses.
I find it an insult to the intellect and I can't believe how some people can't see their credibility being destroyed when they engage in groupthink.

The skunk has spoken. 8)



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10 Jun 2021, 7:46 am

I still think Critical Race Theory has some glaring flaws…and many conservative folks would call me a “bleeding heart.”

I’m not even a registered Democrat.



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10 Jun 2021, 11:22 am

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Do pray tell what British stereotypes have to do with weaponising race against WP members or a psychiatrist's fantasies Brictoria?

Again I was not the creator of that thread either so perhaps you should direct your concerns to the OP of that thread.

I am a little confused why you are conflating what looks like three different/disparate topics?

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The reason, which was contained in an earlier post in this thread (which you removed, presumably to distance your post from the context of the comment you are questioning) was related to the lectures on morals that you provide (and the "high ground" you seek to occupy), and how they reek of hypocracy when compared to the highly prejudiced "anti-white" agenda you provide throughout this (and many other) threads. Those examples were merely provided to demonstrate some of the hypocracy in having blatantly weaponised race with no qualms, insisted there was no "racism" (or, indeed, any problem) in a person stating they wish to shoot "white" people in the head, yet happily judged many people guilty of "racism" throught the site (both members and non-members) given your feigned innocence when it was mentioned earlier in the section I had replied to.

Given you seem unaware of how hypocritical the defence of the lecturer under discussion in this thread is, lets look at some examples of your approach to racial issues: From the "racist" school children (wearing their Trump Nazi starter kit uniforms) waiting for their bus, to the "racist" person warning another that they will call the police and providing some of the information which is specifically listed as being important to take note of, to any "right wing" person automatically being racist, or maybe the claim that: People in colonies such as the US, Australia and Canada can't see that they are simply internalising their parent's prejudices which were inherited from their parents. The ugly attitudes that exists a mere 50 years ago haven't just vanished. They have transformed..

Or how about the failed attempts at referring to a Puerto Rican as "not a person of color (POC)" (Which you subsequently had to retract) in order to be able to claim that "Her refusal to address injuring the boy and the father smacks of white privilege".

Then, as a counter to the pavlovian "white person must be guilty" there's the time when a "non-white" person commited a crime and the subsequent claim that there "seems to be a number of angles" (a courtesy not provided by yourself where a "white" person is involved, and which would result in attacks by yourself on any person for trying to show other angles for a "white" person).

Or we could look at the insistance of people supplying similar actions occurring with victims of a different race to disprove your assertions of racism, yet when presented with a similar situation requiring people of different race in order to justify claims of "racism", you claim this is "irrelevant" to deflect from the question.

Capped off with the weaponising of racial terms aligned with the "white" race to attack members here (as per the post you are querying), maybe you might understand why people see it as hypocritical to read posts where you presume to lecture on "morals".



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10 Jun 2021, 4:35 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I still think Critical Race Theory has some glaring flaws…and many conservative folks would call me a “bleeding heart.”

I’m not even a registered Democrat.


What others here seem to be missing is that CRT provides an opportunity for the historically oppressed members of society to start taking ownership of their own narrative about how they feel. . In the past white academics, media commentators seem to be the ones writing the narrative and this is misleading.

I'm Australian (not African American) but I've read some James Baldwin and I believe he tried to help mainstream Americans understand how he (as a black man) found white people make him feel.

Dr Khilanani was attempting to do precisely that in discussing her fantasies which she has been at great pains to say were mean't to be a metaphor for how she feels.

I think given the fallout she has misread how her comments will be subsequently taken out of context so I believe the damage has already been done and the onus is on her to give a more nuanced explanation of her intentions (which to date she hasn't) so that crazy people don't take what the media have splashed all over the newspapers and use it to go actually act on her misinterpreted lecture.



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10 Jun 2021, 4:46 pm

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What others here seem to be missing is that CRT provides an opportunity for the historically oppressed members of society to start taking ownership of their own narrative about how they feel. . In the past white academics, media commentators seem to be the ones writing the narrative and this is misleading.


At times it seems as if the bold part is actually the part that some political segments are most enraged by.


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10 Jun 2021, 6:57 pm

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cyberdad wrote:

What others here seem to be missing is that CRT provides an opportunity for the historically oppressed members of society to start taking ownership of their own narrative about how they feel. . In the past white academics, media commentators seem to be the ones writing the narrative and this is misleading.


At times it seems as if the bold part is actually the part that some political segments are most enraged by.


It seems so. The distortion of her lecture in the media is actually going to have the opposite effect of what people think. From what I have read, POC are congratulating her, her colleagues are by in large supportive. My concern is the far right will weaponise her lecture and drive some right winger to go shoot a mosque or run over pedestrians like what happened in Canada recently.

She may owe it for the sake of "maintaining the peace" to assure white audiences that her lecture was mean't to be a teaching moment for colleagues/medical students and maybe explain what the purpose was as her current response (which I totally understand) is reactive which is only feeding the trolls (so to speak).



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10 Jun 2021, 7:06 pm

cyberdad and funeral how would feel if a white person said these things about black people?



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10 Jun 2021, 7:08 pm

I could play devils advocate for that person and show its the same thing, but I'm not going to



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10 Jun 2021, 7:20 pm

enz wrote:
cyberdad and funeral how would feel if a white person said these things about black people?


Let's make your analogy accurate, You mean if a white psychiatrist admitted to all their colleagues at Yale Medical school lecture that they carried these fantasies? sure why not.



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10 Jun 2021, 7:23 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:

What others here seem to be missing is that CRT provides an opportunity for the historically oppressed members of society to start taking ownership of their own narrative about how they feel. . In the past white academics, media commentators seem to be the ones writing the narrative and this is misleading.


At times it seems as if the bold part is actually the part that some political segments are most enraged by.

Taking ownership of how you feel even as a member of oppressed minority should not make what you say immune to criticism, it should not automatically invalidate all criticism of what you say, even by members of the majority.

When members here stereotype NT’s in a far less disturbing manner they usually get pushback. If a member here said they fantasized about killing NT’s and followed up by saying what she said about whites about NT’s action would be taken as soon as the mods found out about it. But Yale, one of the most prestigious schools in the country thinks this is ok. What is that saying “May you live in interesting times.”?


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10 Jun 2021, 7:28 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
When members here stereotype NT’s in a far less disturbing manner they usually get pushback. If a member here said they fantasized about killing NT’s and followed up by saying what she said about whites about NT’s action would be taken as soon as the mods found out about it. But Yale, one of the most prestigious schools in the country thinks this is ok. What is that saying “May you live in interesting times.”?


My understanding is that WP is a safe space for autistic people. If they express fantasies about doing things to NTs (which BTW many do) then they are free to do so.



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10 Jun 2021, 7:31 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:

What others here seem to be missing is that CRT provides an opportunity for the historically oppressed members of society to start taking ownership of their own narrative about how they feel. . In the past white academics, media commentators seem to be the ones writing the narrative and this is misleading.


At times it seems as if the bold part is actually the part that some political segments are most enraged by.

Taking ownership of how you feel even as a member of oppressed minority should not make what you say immune to criticism, it should not automatically invalidate all criticism of what you say, even by members of the majority.

When members here stereotype NT’s in a far less disturbing manner they usually get pushback. If a member here said they fantasized about killing NT’s and followed up by saying what she said about whites about NT’s action would be taken as soon as the mods found out about it. But Yale, one of the most prestigious schools in the country thinks this is ok. What is that saying “May you live in interesting times.”?


Those on the left have less criticism directed at them, presumable because the loudest critics of any social issue come overwhelmingly from the progressive side of politics. 8)



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10 Jun 2021, 7:36 pm

cyberdad wrote:
enz wrote:
cyberdad and funeral how would feel if a white person said these things about black people?


Let's make your analogy accurate, You mean if a white psychiatrist admitted to all their colleagues at Yale Medical school lecture that they carried these fantasies? sure why not.


So a white person making "derogatory indian noises" is bad. But a white person talking about killing people at random is fine?

Pop quiz:

A ____ person attacks a ____ person because of what that person represents. Is there more to this story or was this flat out racism?



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10 Jun 2021, 7:37 pm

Sorry Enz?

What do you mean by "derogatory indian noises" is bad. but talking about killing people at random is fine."

I noticed you deleted this



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10 Jun 2021, 7:39 pm

enz wrote:
so a white person making "derogatory indian noises" is bad. but a white person talking about killing people at random is fine.


Did you read my post? I presented a mirror image and replaced Dr Khilanani with a white doctor and had no problem with it.