Lecturer At Yale Event Fantasizes About Murdering Whites
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I guess it depends on who condemned it
I still cant make sense of this, and I hate audio, esp for s**t like this.
my narc radar is beeping
Addressing racism assumes that white people can see and process what we are talking about. They can’t. That’s why they sound demented.
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anyone else smell narc? they seem to me prone to self parody. ala dr Phil
last one to find full transcript is rotten egg.
I've got the audio. I'm going to try to make it less terrible and harsh sounding with some EQing and a leveller because it's painful to listen to and I'd like to give it another listen where that's not a distraction.
That comment doesn't really seem that much like self-parody in these circles, it's pretty common to suggest that most white people struggle with recognizing racism because it isn't particularly relevant to their lives and that even things like being married to, or having children of, or things that might make one adjacent don't guarantee they will notice them.
A lot of white people do sound demented when they discuss racism, you mention institutional racism and they'll start talking about how f*****g colourblind they are. The two aren't even related.
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Even to a group of psychoanalysts.
Individual white people....and individual nonwhite people don’t deserve to listen to this sort of crap.
Ever wonder why the people in the room don't seem to be participating in the backlash? It's just people who heard about it without having heard it.
Probably for the same reason those involved in KKK meetings wouldn't participate in backlash against what was said in one of their gatherings, and it would be reliant on external people who heard about it to speak up...
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Even to a group of psychoanalysts.
Individual white people....and individual nonwhite people don’t deserve to listen to this sort of crap.
Ever wonder why the people in the room don't seem to be participating in the backlash? It's just people who heard about it without having heard it.
Probably for the same reason those involved in KKK meetings wouldn't participate in backlash against what was said in one of their gatherings, and it would be reliant on external people who heard about it to speak up...
Are you suggesting these doctors were actually a hate group operating under false pretenses?
I propose it's more likely they're just scared of the backlash.
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Did they condemn it immediately or after backlash started?

There seems to mixed messages from Yale. Prof Nicholas Christakis who is a physician from Yale stated that while her comments were racist that "To be clear, it's not having disturbing fantasies that is problematic, nor even discussing such fantasies in a classroom. Most human beings have disturbing fantasies, and this can be a proper topic for discussion. People's actions are more important than their thoughts or words."
This seems to suggest he didn't feel comfortable with her comments but you can't judge her for her thoughts, only for her actions.
She seems to have received support from her colleagues and she wasn't reported by anyone at the talk itself, it seems a journalist named Bari Weiss from the NYT downloaded the talk from their Yale website (after seeing the title of the talk) which is where the trouble started.
Yale have since closed the link so only staff are able to download the talk. The comment that some of those attending Dr Khilanani's talk were uncomfortable appears to be unverified secondhand information although it wouldn't surprise me.
Even to a group of psychoanalysts.
Individual white people....and individual nonwhite people don’t deserve to listen to this sort of crap.
Ever wonder why the people in the room don't seem to be participating in the backlash? It's just people who heard about it without having heard it.
Probably for the same reason those involved in KKK meetings wouldn't participate in backlash against what was said in one of their gatherings, and it would be reliant on external people who heard about it to speak up...
Are you suggesting these doctors were actually a hate group operating under false pretenses?
I propose it's more likely they're just scared of the backlash.
But, if there's nothing wrong with what was said, what reason would they have to be afraid of the backlash?
How about, instead of the "kkk", we instead take a group of devout religious people (or q-anon\blue-anon members)... Would they be more likely to speak out about something that was part of their core beliefs, with which they agreed, or would it require an external person to speak out about problematic issues?
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Did they condemn it immediately or after backlash started?

There seems to mixed messages from Yale. Prof Nicholas Christakis who is a physician from Yale stated that while her comments were racist that "To be clear, it's not having disturbing fantasies that is problematic, nor even discussing such fantasies in a classroom. Most human beings have disturbing fantasies, and this can be a proper topic for discussion. People's actions are more important than their thoughts or words."
This seems to suggest he didn't feel comfortable with her comments but you can't judge her for her thoughts, only for her actions.
She seems to have received support from her colleagues and she wasn't reported by anyone at the talk itself, it seems a journalist named Bari Weiss from the NYT downloaded the talk from their Yale website (after seeing the title of the talk) which is where the trouble started.
Yale have since closed the link so only staff are able to download the talk. The comment that some of those attending Dr Khilanani's talk were uncomfortable appears to be unverified secondhand information although it wouldn't surprise me.
Bari Weiss has a pretty long history of hysteria on anything related to CRT or wokeness so I struggle to consider her an unbiased source.
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How about, instead of the "kkk", we instead take a group of devout religious people (or q-anon\blue-anon members)... Would they be more likely to speak out about something that was part of their core beliefs, with which they agreed, or would it require an external person to speak out about problematic issues?
Because they'd rather just make it go away, must like how they've responded to other incidents with controversial speech.
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
And that's precisely where the trouble started when Bari Weiss got a hold of the recording and cherry picked bits from the talk.
Its all cherries with Dr Khilanani
Katie Herzog: So you don’t think that you are generalizing?
Dr. Aruna Khilanani. : This idea that I’m the one generalizing is actually defensive. Do I really believe on some level that every single white person is racist? No. Clearly. I have one percent left of that friend group. [In the lecture, Dr. Khilanani explains she has cut most of her white friends out of her life.] So no, I don’t. At the same time, I'm saying how it functions psychologically when someone says “You can’t say that,” and “Not all of us,” what you’re saying subconsciously is “I’m the exception to what you just said and you made me feel like I'm a racist and I don't experience myself that way. I do not want to experience myself as a racist and I'm going to turn the tables on you and say you're the racist because you're generalizing and that’s what a racist does."
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ps ... email#play
it just gets weirder and weirder.
Let's talk about your practice. You've mentioned that you treat a lot of white people and you treat “whiteness.” What is the distinction between the two?
I wouldn’t say there is a distinction. For example, for white women, I do help a lot with passive-aggressiveness — not being able to use their voice, say things, feeling like there will be a negative consequence. White people have an intense level of guilt. I have never seen a level of guilt that I see among white people. I mean, white people don't eat bread. Think about that. There have been wars all over the world over grains and bread and only here, white people are depriving themselves. Think about that s**t. Everyone has this gluten allergy and you're like, what the f**k is a gluten allergy? That's a psychosomatic symptom. If you actually talk to a GI doctor, they're going to say, “Well, there’s Celiac and there's everything else” with a wink, and you know what the “everything else” is. It’s all the guilty gluten people.
Sure. There are lots of white people who don't eat bread, although I am not one of them. I exclusively eat bread, and I’m also skeptical of some claims of gluten intolerance but my assumption has always been that they’re just buying into pseudoscientific B.S. and following health trends. You think it’s white guilt?
On an emotional level, absolutely. Like, if I raise an eyebrow at a white person around bread, the first response is like, “It’s real.” What does that mean? They mean it’s not psychological.
Right. It’s a medical issue, not a mental one.
I don’t deny that people may get symptoms, but how is it that all these people suddenly now, after all the violence has occurred, are not eating bread. It’s like the weirdest f*****g thing.
But what does bread have to do with violence? What’s the connection there?
I think the bread is about guilt and needing to keep them in a state of deprivation and stay guilty.
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Dr. Aruna Khilanani. : This idea that I’m the one generalizing is actually defensive. Do I really believe on some level that every single white person is racist? No. Clearly. I have one percent left of that friend group. [In the lecture, Dr. Khilanani explains she has cut most of her white friends out of her life.] So no, I don’t. At the same time, I'm saying how it functions psychologically when someone says “You can’t say that,” and “Not all of us,” what you’re saying subconsciously is “I’m the exception to what you just said and you made me feel like I'm a racist and I don't experience myself that way. I do not want to experience myself as a racist and I'm going to turn the tables on you and say you're the racist because you're generalizing and that’s what a racist does."
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ps ... email#play
I'm thinking maybe they didn't agree with her so she ghosted them XD
Dr. Aruna Khilanani. : This idea that I’m the one generalizing is actually defensive. Do I really believe on some level that every single white person is racist? No. Clearly. I have one percent left of that friend group. [In the lecture, Dr. Khilanani explains she has cut most of her white friends out of her life.] So no, I don’t. At the same time, I'm saying how it functions psychologically when someone says “You can’t say that,” and “Not all of us,” what you’re saying subconsciously is “I’m the exception to what you just said and you made me feel like I'm a racist and I don't experience myself that way. I do not want to experience myself as a racist and I'm going to turn the tables on you and say you're the racist because you're generalizing and that’s what a racist does."
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ps ... email#play
While I find labeling it "white mind" simply racist, these observations are valid - it's about psychological defenses. People (of all colours and flavours

Valid observations, I regret they have been served in divisive sauce

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Dr. Aruna Khilanani. : This idea that I’m the one generalizing is actually defensive. Do I really believe on some level that every single white person is racist? No. Clearly. I have one percent left of that friend group. [In the lecture, Dr. Khilanani explains she has cut most of her white friends out of her life.] So no, I don’t. At the same time, I'm saying how it functions psychologically when someone says “You can’t say that,” and “Not all of us,” what you’re saying subconsciously is “I’m the exception to what you just said and you made me feel like I'm a racist and I don't experience myself that way. I do not want to experience myself as a racist and I'm going to turn the tables on you and say you're the racist because you're generalizing and that’s what a racist does."
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ps ... email#play
I'm thinking maybe they didn't agree with her so she ghosted them XD
Or she simply fails to recognise the difference between a friend and a sycophant, electing to only associate with those who tell her what she wants to hear?
I'm thinking maybe they didn't agree with her so she ghosted them XD[/quote]
Post of the day

oh wait, you must be white because you stole it!
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This is real. She has a boutique psychiatric clinic in NY so her clientele is predominately upper middle class white women.
Among the body conscious young middle class women, "Bread shaming" is fuelled by a fear of carbs
https://www.elle.com/culture/travel-foo ... d-shaming/
So there's been an uptake of white girls going on gluten free diets
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gluten-f ... 2d4598c731
Basically what she's saying is true
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