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10 May 2022, 7:57 pm

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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?

I don't joke about the accuracy of my profile details. I'm from Romania indeed.


Someone who lives in Transylvania joining this thread is quite unexpected and delightful. Most Westerners have only experienced your region by way of colorful fiction.

Thank you.
When westerners care about me as much as they do about my region. Feels good.

I thought I'm a westerner because we don't have odd exotic beliefs/culture and a communistic regime anymore.


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10 May 2022, 8:10 pm

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Vlad Tepes was his name. He's still highly regarded in Romania for defending his country, despite his brutal methods.

Hell no, not by me.
He's like well known for being in history, popular, but not liked I would think.
He's part of historical interesting things, i think his face was on some old coins, 20 lei back in the day, if im not mistaken.
Then we kinda have Romania's history we learn, and its part of thesis like all others "domnitori" or leaders, before modern politics and presidents were involved. They used to fight on horses.

It's very interesting to me, to this day, the impact of his cruelty and stories have made my country popular from the point of view of legends and helps with tourism as a main attraction point.

Hi Rexi,I am an American of partial Romanian/Transylvanian ancestry.I heard that a lot of the vampire legends in your part of the world influenced by lack of scientific understanding of disease and decay and stuff like that.I heard that even today some people in the Carpathian Mountains believe the blood-drinking undead are a real non fictional thing.Is that true Rexi.I have always loved vampires but thats mainly because I find the vampiresss to be the epitome of sexy.In Rhode Island in the 18990's there was a vampire panic caused by TB.Several diseases and conditions are thought to be contributors to the whole vampire myth.Like Rabies.Well At least yall have turned his legacy into a way to make a living.I have also heard that many Romanians dont like the whole Hollywood Image of yalls national hero.I heard he is basically yalls George Washington.Rexi,

I didnt realize they still believe that but I'm not as familiar with all remote villagers, and most of those are very old people who are dying, so it could be true. They show on TV, they have a hard life and they dont have electronics, they get gifts from some organizations and visits because theyre always pretty alone. These people believe in God. I have read before, not about Romania but that such a belief pushed away fears of creepy creatures because Jesus was stronger, like a hero and belief in him saved people, in new legends. I feel like Romanians were christians since a long time ago though, we are provenient from Greeks and Dacians. But these people used to have beliefs in other gods. So I don't know. "Varcolac" is werewolf so they had that fear too. Even though Wiki says the werewolf originated in Germany, if I remember correctly. "Strigoi" is "Strigoi in Romanian mythology are troubled spirits that are said to have risen from the grave."
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I don't know of anyone that still believes in these creatures, and mom is aquainted with some ladies from villages and mountains. They mostly are afraid of Bear and other things that attack their chicken or sheep. I know people in a location ive been at kept saying "diiihoru!" after their chicken were attacked or just to warn against it as it comes when it gets darker.
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TBC is horrid, mom and her siblings spent years in a hospital as small children diseased by it. Some people would smoke in the same room as the kids because of unavailability of other rooms, and there were parties going on at their house sadly. I think it mightve been a bacteria carried by raw milk or something but Grandma said she was careful to cook the milk. Passive smoking increases chances of infection.

"Hollywood Image of yalls national hero" Not too sure who it might truly be, could it be Stefan Cel Mare? Oh, no, it was Cuza Voda, poetry featured him for a while. Eminescu, our most popular poem writer used to talk about history in his poems, but also nature. At this day mostly students talk about him, when they study for their thesis at the end of 8th grade, they study Romanian history and especially the leaders of the country.


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10 May 2022, 8:49 pm

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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?

I don't joke about the accuracy of my profile details. I'm from Romania indeed.


Someone who lives in Transylvania joining this thread is quite unexpected and delightful. Most Westerners have only experienced your region by way of colorful fiction.


Exactly!

I was asking because I think that its cool that you're actually from the place.

And many Americans, including at least one WP member (until I posted a map of Balkan Europe for him) think that Transylvania is a fictional place. Its very real. In fact its been fought over, and changed hands back and forth, between Hungary, and Rumania for centuries.

Thanks! It is very real, otherwise I would be living nowhere right now. I'm stepping on the land of Transylvania, and it's not a magical land. :mrgreen:
It's different from Transnistria, which is part of the border between Ukraine and Russia, and is part of the Republic of Moldova.


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Old map, Greater Romania, or "Chubby Romania" - Romania Dodoloata

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At this time, in Greater Romania, the old regions have united in one big country. But then Moldova, former Basarabia, was stolen.
Nowadays the bigger regions in different cardinal directions of the country still have some of the old names, and people still refer sometimes to them in the same way, if they don't refer to specific locations. Can be to name certain traditions which are different throughout the different parts of the country in terms of singing, traditional garment, foods, handwork, cloth making/wool weaving etc.


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11 May 2022, 4:56 pm

Rather complicated geography.

Notice that "Moldova" is right next door to...Moldova!.

The region within modern Rumania called Moldova runs along Rumania's boundary line in the northeast with the now independent nation that was once the Soviet Republic named Moldova.

But the piece of land that consists of the former Soviet, now independent Moldova (but NOT any part of Moldova inside Rumania) was also called "Bessarabia". Except it wasnt just that. Bessarabia consisted of what is now the modern republic of Moldova PLUS that little piece of land in what is now Ukraine on the Black Sea coast. So it was that Moldova, but with access to the sea. The Russkies stole that little piece of beachfront property at some point.



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11 May 2022, 5:54 pm

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Rather complicated geography.

Notice that "Moldova" is right next door to...Moldova!.

The region within modern Rumania called Moldova runs along Rumania's boundary line in the northeast with the now independent nation that was once the Soviet Republic named Moldova.

But the piece of land that consists of the former Soviet, now independent Moldova (but NOT any part of Moldova inside Rumania) was also called "Bessarabia". Except it wasnt just that. Bessarabia consisted of what is now the modern republic of Moldova PLUS that little piece of land in what is now Ukraine on the Black Sea coast. So it was that Moldova, but with access to the sea. The Russkies stole that little piece of beachfront property at some point.


My Black Sea German forbearers had kin among the Bessarabian German settlers way back in the 19th century.


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11 May 2022, 6:05 pm

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Romanian is Latin-provenient like Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French.

I would say the accent of spanish is not closer than the one of Italian. Spanish is too accented.

Este Suzana acasa? Da, in bucatarie.

Da is Russian, too. We share some accents in villages especially, with Russians and Ukrainians.

Cocina in Romanian means pig den. xD

In, means in. Pronounced Uhn, because it has some ^ above the I.

Well you know historically Transylvania was a region within Romania populated by people who spoke a language closely related to Hungarian, which is neither a Slavic nor a Romance language.


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11 May 2022, 6:27 pm

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Romanian is Latin-provenient like Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French.

I would say the accent of spanish is not closer than the one of Italian. Spanish is too accented.

Este Suzana acasa? Da, in bucatarie.

Da is Russian, too. We share some accents in villages especially, with Russians and Ukrainians.

Cocina in Romanian means pig den. xD

In, means in. Pronounced Uhn, because it has some ^ above the I.

Well you know historically Transylvania was a region within Romania populated by people who spoke a language closely related to Hungarian, which is neither a Slavic nor a Romance language.


They were Magyars?


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11 May 2022, 7:10 pm

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They were Magyars?

Or Maghiari, so it would seem.


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11 May 2022, 8:28 pm

Rexi wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Rexi wrote:
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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?

I don't joke about the accuracy of my profile details. I'm from Romania indeed.


Someone who lives in Transylvania joining this thread is quite unexpected and delightful. Most Westerners have only experienced your region by way of colorful fiction.

Thank you.
When westerners care about me as much as they do about my region. Feels good.

I thought I'm a westerner because we don't have odd exotic beliefs/culture and a communistic regime anymore.


How can Romantica *not* be part of Europe? Poland is, isn't it?
Isn't all of Europe "western"?
Please educate me, someone. :scratch:



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11 May 2022, 11:52 pm

Pepe wrote:
Rexi wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Rexi wrote:
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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?

I don't joke about the accuracy of my profile details. I'm from Romania indeed.


Someone who lives in Transylvania joining this thread is quite unexpected and delightful. Most Westerners have only experienced your region by way of colorful fiction.

Thank you.
When westerners care about me as much as they do about my region. Feels good.

I thought I'm a westerner because we don't have odd exotic beliefs/culture and a communistic regime anymore.


How can Romantica *not* be part of Europe? Poland is, isn't it?
Isn't all of Europe "western"?
Please educate me, someone. :scratch:


There has always been a cultural divide between the largely Germanic/Latinate west and the primarily Slavic east, with the former for most of history being further ahead in social/political development and science.


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12 May 2022, 3:07 am

All of Europe(including Russia west of the Urals) is part of "the West" meaning "Western Civilization".

But during the Cold War they started using "east and west" to mean the "Communist Bloc vs the Western alliances".

THAT east-west dichotomy sliced it a little differently because the Communist Bloc included the "Iron Curtain countries" of Eastern Europe.

So in the old Cold War sense Rumania would be "east".

And K is right too. There is also a pre cold war cultural divide as well.

Western Europe and parts of Eastern Europe (like Poland) became Catholic, while the Balkans, Greece, and Russia, became Eastern Orthodox.

The Balkans were under the rule of the Ottomans while Western Europe, and even Poland and the Czechs, were going through the Reformation, and the Enlightenment.



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12 May 2022, 3:18 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
MaxE wrote:
Rexi wrote:
Romanian is Latin-provenient like Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French.

I would say the accent of spanish is not closer than the one of Italian. Spanish is too accented.

Este Suzana acasa? Da, in bucatarie.

Da is Russian, too. We share some accents in villages especially, with Russians and Ukrainians.

Cocina in Romanian means pig den. xD

In, means in. Pronounced Uhn, because it has some ^ above the I.

Well you know historically Transylvania was a region within Romania populated by people who spoke a language closely related to Hungarian, which is neither a Slavic nor a Romance language.


They were Magyars?


Yes Transylvania was populated by ethnic Hungarians who speak Magyar- which is a weird language not akin to any Indoeuropean language, but originated among the tribal peoples of the subarctic forests in the northern Ural mountains at the border between Europe and Asia that runs through Russia. Finland folks also speak a Uralic language .

Magyar is still spoken by ethnic Hungarians in central Rumanian Transylvania. I read in National Geographic that there is still a lot of ethnic tensions in the region between the two ethnic groups. But the reporter said that Hungarians and Rumanians agree on one thing...that they both hate Gypsies more than they hate each other.



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12 May 2022, 4:33 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
MaxE wrote:
Rexi wrote:
Romanian is Latin-provenient like Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French.

I would say the accent of spanish is not closer than the one of Italian. Spanish is too accented.

Este Suzana acasa? Da, in bucatarie.

Da is Russian, too. We share some accents in villages especially, with Russians and Ukrainians.

Cocina in Romanian means pig den. xD

In, means in. Pronounced Uhn, because it has some ^ above the I.

Well you know historically Transylvania was a region within Romania populated by people who spoke a language closely related to Hungarian, which is neither a Slavic nor a Romance language.


They were Magyars?


Yes Transylvania was populated by ethnic Hungarians who speak Magyar- which is a weird language not akin to any Indoeuropean language, but originated among the tribal peoples of the subarctic forests in the northern Ural mountains at the border between Europe and Asia that runs through Russia. Finland folks also speak a Uralic language .

Magyar is still spoken by ethnic Hungarians in central Rumanian Transylvania. I read in National Geographic that there is still a lot of ethnic tensions in the region between the two ethnic groups. But the reporter said that Hungarians and Rumanians agree on one thing...that they both hate Gypsies more than they hate each other.


I admittedly hadn't been aware of the Magyar ethnicity in Transylvania, but I knew the rest. There's also a possibility that the Huns (who the Germans had associated the Magyars in later times with) might have been at least partially of that ethnicity.
On the subject of ethnicities in that region: there had been a significant German minority there for centuries. Stalin had decimated and deported large numbers of them, while others had fled to Germany at the end of WWII - - victims displaced by the war, along with millions of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, and those others who had been put into that situation by Hitler.


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