Hospital discharges deaf non verbal autistic at 2AM

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WRONG.

First reference,
https://www.stvincenttimes.com/ny-polic ... ian-woman/


Second reference,
https://original.newsbreak.com/@still-u ... ter-s-home



Third reference:
https://localtoday.news/nj/missing-pers ... 20955.html

As noted in the article in the OP
“ Peck said her sister made it clear on Thursday evening, Dec. 22, that she wanted to go back to Brooklyn. But Peck said Primus, known as Denise, agreed to stay three more days.

“Among us, we have our own sign language,” Peck said, “and we really understand each other.”

Peck said her sister indicated she was fine with the plans to wait a few days.”


As I said in the OP
“I don't know enough to fully judge the sister. Sometimes you just can't leave work. Nurses now are in short supply. The sisters' house should have been better secured but Denise had not bolted since she was a teen and Joanna had short notice.

The main fault is the hospital. Hospitals discharge people as fast as possible and have been doing so for years.”

Since the sister was works the overnight shift and is a respiratory therapist not a nurse as I stated I am assuming she also works in a hospital. That should not change the fact hospital staffs are overworked meaning possibly less likely to know your sister has bolted after she agreed to stay.

But as noted in the OP the hospital is my main focus.

Good catch kitesandtrainsandcats. Did the ambulance driver to bother to tell the hospital he recognized her a missing persons poster. If not very bad on drivers part. If he did tell the hospital their actions were even more egregious.

Sounds like they assumed she was part of the local homeless population, especially since apparently she was looking dishevelled. With how many disabled people are homeless, it's an easy mistake to make. What else would they be expected to do besides provide a list of local shelters she could go to and discharge her? Really, truly, it sounds like an honest mistake.

Should there be so many homeless disabled people? No, probably not. But, there are, so I can see how the mistake was made and why a hospital wouldn't hold someone in a bed that didn't medically need it and would discharge them after treatment.

I hate to repeat this topic but do Americans without medical insurance need to show photo ID for treatment? Doesn’t everyone? Wouldn’t that show her address and prove she wasn’t homeless?

One cannot be refused treatment for serious conditions in the US. Or something like a fracture. Even without ID.

OK but she had a sore leg and got Tylenol. It wasn’t fractured and they would have known that at triage. Wouldn’t they want ID for billing? Or am I being delusional? How would they bill her?

People aren’t refused medical care in Canada for not having ID, either. Especially in emergencies.

Many homeless people don’t have ID. My guess is sometimes they provide their name, and other times they get filed under John/Jane Doe or something like that.

I know people aren’t refused in emergencies.

She did have an address though, whether she carried ID or not. I’m sure they asked her for an address at some point even without ID and they either had an interpreter or showed her the question on paper. They would have known she wasn’t homeless in my opinion.

I wish I was there to tell you exactly what happened.

I truly sense there was a lack of common sense exhibited somewhere, though I don’t really know.

They would want ID for billing—of course.

It’s possible she had a Medicaid card on her.

Also if she was a deaf adult wouldn’t she know ASL or read lips or have a hearing aid? I’m sure she hasn’t spent her whole life completely helpless and unable to hear. They didn’t mention anything about an intellectual disability either, or maybe I missed that.

This story is just bizarre imo.
None of it makes sense.

We don't know if she had any ID on her never mind a cellphone.


According to the story "“Among us, we have our own sign language,” Peck said, “and we really understand each other.”
She was apparently able to communicate that she had a sore leg.
None of it makes sense due to the paucity of information

Last edited by ASPartOfMe on 04 Jan 2023, 11:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

There would probably be sign-language interpreters in a Queens hospital.

I understand that. I’m just very detail oriented so I’m trying to figure out how it all went down. They would have asked her for an address regardless. Maybe she indicated she had no address so they wouldn’t bill her. Maybe the injury was so minor they didn’t bother billing her. Maybe she was a frequent flyer who had been there a lot and they just brushed her off.

Sorry for so many questions but I’m trying to figure out what went wrong.

Don’t forget: she was found “on the ground.” In this case, she had to be treated.

I have a fractured rib and I was thinking of going to ER. I would have given a play by play report of the identification and discharge procedures for my own interest lol. I would have asked them what happens for people without ID. All things being equal I’m sure they’d go through triage but probably be treated later than those who have it. Idk I’m just guessing.

I’d likely be there until morning and there’s nothing they can do for it anyway so I’ll just sit here with an ice pack and get high on morphine. Whoops.

You think they send bills to homeless people who come in with a sore leg? Mail them to where ? Be paid with what money ?

Chances are they just confirm someone doesn't need serious treatment, donate a couple tylenol samples or whatever and send them on their way.

What would you do differently ? Or expect to be done differently ?

Homeless person, doesn't speak, no ID, sore leg.. not broken. Here's a tylenol and a list of places you can seek shelter.