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31 Aug 2019, 3:59 pm

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I never addressed JohnPowell personally. I only addressed what did/what didn’t happen on the George Washington Bridge right after 9/11.

JohnPowell has the right to his opinion. I never made any allusion at all to JohnPowell as a person. I don’t know him at all. Why would I do that?

I don’t bully people here.

I’m not a very political person. I have nothing against conservatives. I have a good friend who is a conservative.

I think Palestine has a point when it comes to its position vis-a-vis Israel and the Middle East. It wasn’t fair that land was taken away from the Palestinians.

I was bullied a lot when I was young. It taught me to respect people.


I didn't accuse you of bullying me, you were just part of the false echo chamber. It's just pretty sad you couldn't admit you were wrong.


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31 Aug 2019, 4:02 pm

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"FBI studies two broken cameras outside cell where Epstein died: source

(Reuters) - Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source told Reuters.
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https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VI2LC

Fishy.


Don't worry, the FBI will tell the truth :lol:


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31 Aug 2019, 4:37 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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John - The people who are unable to see the big picture of the war for profit machine will never understand.
Don't waste your time. These are people who need to keep a narrow view of the world in order to avoid deep depression. It's their self-defense mechanism. It's this nature that allows such horror to occur, but it sadly will never change.
They can't understand how the propaganda machine works and as such they will repeatedly be unable to have an open mind to the reality of the world.
Wars happen because people can't get along with each other and resolve those differences peacfully.Not because there is a for profit war machine.


Thanks for showing your ignorance.
ok lets take WW1 for example.
In 1909 Austria-Hungary annexed Bosnia and Hercegovina and this pissed off the south slav nationalists.
one group pissed off was a Serbian terrorist group known as the black hand run by Dragutin Demitrijevich who also helped assasinate king ALexander of Serbia in 1903.

The black hand found some young people who were against Austria violently but had no military experience and Demitrijevich armed them one of them was Gavrillo Princip,there were several others

on june 28th 1914 Gavrillo Princip shot and killed Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary and that basicly started world war one.

A lot of corrupt individuals did a lot of nasty things and there were a few conspiracies in there too but there was no magical for profit war machine just individuals or small groups working together,and they started the biggest war in world history


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31 Aug 2019, 4:41 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
"FBI studies two broken cameras outside cell where Epstein died: source

(Reuters) - Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source told Reuters.
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https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VI2LC

Fishy.


Don't worry, the FBI will tell the truth :lol:
so now all of a sudden you have faith in the goverment


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31 Aug 2019, 4:42 pm

Cut and paste is cool.


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31 Aug 2019, 4:45 pm

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Cut and paste is cool.
what does that mean


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31 Aug 2019, 4:49 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
"FBI studies two broken cameras outside cell where Epstein died: source

(Reuters) - Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source told Reuters.
"
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VI2LC

Fishy.


Don't worry, the FBI will tell the truth :lol:
so now all of a sudden you have faith in the goverment


I see it now that those arguing against me and others can't actually deal with the arguments so make up their own arguments and argue against them.


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31 Aug 2019, 5:32 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
"FBI studies two broken cameras outside cell where Epstein died: source

(Reuters) - Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source told Reuters.
"
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VI2LC

Fishy.


Don't worry, the FBI will tell the truth :lol:
so now all of a sudden you have faith in the goverment


He was being sarcastic.



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01 Sep 2019, 10:53 am

vermontsavant wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Roboto wrote:
John - The people who are unable to see the big picture of the war for profit machine will never understand.
Don't waste your time. These are people who need to keep a narrow view of the world in order to avoid deep depression. It's their self-defense mechanism. It's this nature that allows such horror to occur, but it sadly will never change.
They can't understand how the propaganda machine works and as such they will repeatedly be unable to have an open mind to the reality of the world.
Wars happen because people can't get along with each other and resolve those differences peacfully.Not because there is a for profit war machine.


Thanks for showing your ignorance.
ok lets take WW1 for example.
In 1909 Austria-Hungary annexed Bosnia and Hercegovina and this pissed off the south slav nationalists.
one group pissed off was a Serbian terrorist group known as the black hand run by Dragutin Demitrijevich who also helped assasinate king ALexander of Serbia in 1903.

The black hand found some young people who were against Austria violently but had no military experience and Demitrijevich armed them one of them was Gavrillo Princip,there were several others

on june 28th 1914 Gavrillo Princip shot and killed Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary and that basicly started world war one.

A lot of corrupt individuals did a lot of nasty things and there were a few conspiracies in there too but there was no magical for profit war machine just individuals or small groups working together,and they started the biggest war in world history


The "good guys" are whoever wins and gets to write the history books.
Kind of like how Gulf of Tonkin as an all out false flag isn't taught regarding Viet Nam. Imagine putting that into the minds of young impressionable learners? JFK, etc...
The more time passes, the people with the alternative, and accurate view are minimized and the rulers continue to have their way with society...
Minimizing a world war to an assassination seems like it's probably an over simplification.



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01 Sep 2019, 12:34 pm

Roboto wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Roboto wrote:
John - The people who are unable to see the big picture of the war for profit machine will never understand.
Don't waste your time. These are people who need to keep a narrow view of the world in order to avoid deep depression. It's their self-defense mechanism. It's this nature that allows such horror to occur, but it sadly will never change.
They can't understand how the propaganda machine works and as such they will repeatedly be unable to have an open mind to the reality of the world.
Wars happen because people can't get along with each other and resolve those differences peacfully.Not because there is a for profit war machine.


Thanks for showing your ignorance.
ok lets take WW1 for example.
In 1909 Austria-Hungary annexed Bosnia and Hercegovina and this pissed off the south slav nationalists.
one group pissed off was a Serbian terrorist group known as the black hand run by Dragutin Demitrijevich who also helped assasinate king ALexander of Serbia in 1903.

The black hand found some young people who were against Austria violently but had no military experience and Demitrijevich armed them one of them was Gavrillo Princip,there were several others

on june 28th 1914 Gavrillo Princip shot and killed Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary and that basicly started world war one.

A lot of corrupt individuals did a lot of nasty things and there were a few conspiracies in there too but there was no magical for profit war machine just individuals or small groups working together,and they started the biggest war in world history


The "good guys" are whoever wins and gets to write the history books.
Kind of like how Gulf of Tonkin as an all out false flag isn't taught regarding Viet Nam. Imagine putting that into the minds of young impressionable learners? JFK, etc...
The more time passes, the people with the alternative, and accurate view are minimized and the rulers continue to have their way with society...
Minimizing a world war to an assassination seems like it's probably an over simplification.
I did not simplify WW1 to just 1 assassination,if you read my post I talked about the annexation of Bosnia Hercegovina in 1909 by Austria-Hugary as a major factor.The act stired up south slav nationalism and gave rise to terrorist groups like the black hand,narodna odbrana and young Bosnia.Gavrilo Princip who was a member of young Bosnia was just the person who first lashed out at Austria.eventually world war 1 would have started anyway,the south slavs were to angry.

plus the point of my post was not to explain WW1 but to show wars dont start because of a secret for profit war machine as has been sugested on this thread by several posters


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01 Sep 2019, 2:37 pm

Federal Inmates are killing themselves at escalating rates because the Trump administration slashed 5,156 officer and staff positions through a hiring freeze.

Suicides like the of Jeffrey Epstein are predictable given the conditions of the 122 federal detention centers said sen.Richard Durbin D-Ill

suicide rates increased from 8.1 per 100,000 to 14.7 per 100,000 in the year 2018,66 inmates took thee lives in that time.

The Washington Post


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01 Sep 2019, 3:19 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
Federal Inmates are killing themselves at escalating rates because the Trump administration slashed 5,156 officer and staff positions through a hiring freeze.

Suicides like the of Jeffrey Epstein are predictable given the conditions of the 122 federal detention centers said sen.Richard Durbin D-Ill

suicide rates increased from 8.1 per 100,000 to 14.7 per 100,000 in the year 2018,66 inmates took thee lives in that time.

The Washington Post


I knew It, it's Trump's fault :lol: These 'journalists' are shameless.


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01 Sep 2019, 4:36 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Federal Inmates are killing themselves at escalating rates because the Trump administration slashed 5,156 officer and staff positions through a hiring freeze.

Suicides like the of Jeffrey Epstein are predictable given the conditions of the 122 federal detention centers said sen.Richard Durbin D-Ill

suicide rates increased from 8.1 per 100,000 to 14.7 per 100,000 in the year 2018,66 inmates took thee lives in that time.

The Washington Post


I knew It, it's Trump's fault :lol: These 'journalists' are shameless.


It's not literally Trump's fault and that's not what's being claimed.
Creating conditions that make outcomes more likely isn't the same as directly acting to cause those outcomes.

You're doing that thing you complained about other people doing to you a few posts back, speaking of shameless.

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I see it now that those arguing against me and others can't actually deal with the arguments so make up their own arguments and argue against them.


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01 Sep 2019, 4:41 pm

The guy literally blamed Trump. I sarcastically said we can trust the FBI and got accused of trusting the government. You're clutching at straws.

Those damn cameras keep malfunctioning just at the wrong time. Same as the Oklahoma city bombing. Maybe that was cause Clinton was making camera producers work too hard :lol:


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01 Sep 2019, 10:30 pm

Millionaire model agency boss thought to have key information into the Jeffrey Epstein scandal 'has disappeared like a ghost without a trace'

A millionaire model agency boss who is thought to have key information about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal 'has disappeared like a ghost without a trace'.

Jean-Luc Brunel, 72, has vanished as police seek to ask the Frenchman 'urgent' questions about the paedophile.

Investigators are making enquiries in Brazil, the US and Europe and French prosecutors are also pursuing claims relating to the financier, who died aged 66 before he could face the latest allegations.

A friend of Prince Andrew, predator Epstein killed himself in jail on August 10 as he faced child sex trafficking charges.

Brunel - who founded New York's MC2 - denies any involvement with crimes committed by Epstein.

A Paris legal source told the Daily Mirror: 'He is a ghost who has disappeared without trace.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ishes.html


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01 Sep 2019, 11:21 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Federal Inmates are killing themselves at escalating rates because the Trump administration slashed 5,156 officer and staff positions through a hiring freeze.

Suicides like the of Jeffrey Epstein are predictable given the conditions of the 122 federal detention centers said sen.Richard Durbin D-Ill

suicide rates increased from 8.1 per 100,000 to 14.7 per 100,000 in the year 2018,66 inmates took thee lives in that time.

The Washington Post


I knew It, it's Trump's fault :lol: These 'journalists' are shameless.


It's not literally Trump's fault and that's not what's being claimed.


Baloney.