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02 Oct 2011, 11:55 am

http://www.obit-mag.com/articles/the-lo ... al-silence

I was at a state park yesterday, and could not believe how many dolts brought along their stupid #@* cellphones to disturb the quiet. Groups of people entered the park, chattering a mile a minute about things that had nothing to do with the scenery. They left huge clouds of fabric softener smells, perfume, and other artificial scents, which lingered long after they had departed. And there were several noisy airplanes passing overhead, as well as the distant swish of tires on the main highway. Depressing.


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02 Oct 2011, 12:30 pm

thankfully, out in the sticks where i live, there are still moments of utter silence aside from the noises of the wind through the trees and the vocalizations of various critters in the brush. in the winter when it snows it is quiet enough to hear snow falling. about 20 miles as the crow flies, away from where i live, is another quiet spot [lake coquallum] so quiet that it is "deafening." it is quiet enough to where you can hear the blood circulating in your head, you can hear your heart beating, and the sounds of buzzing insects and raindrops stand out in sharp relief. i read someplace that one of the last totally quiet places in america [outside of death valley] is in the olympic national forest in western washington state. there is a plaque there at the approximate spot.



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02 Oct 2011, 1:27 pm

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thankfully, out in the sticks where i live, there are still moments of utter silence aside from the noises of the wind through the trees and the vocalizations of various critters in the brush. in the winter when it snows it is quiet enough to hear snow falling. about 20 miles as the crow flies, away from where i live, is another quiet spot [lake coquallum] so quiet that it is "deafening." it is quiet enough to where you can hear the blood circulating in your head, you can hear your heart beating, and the sounds of buzzing insects and raindrops stand out in sharp relief. i read someplace that one of the last totally quiet places in america [outside of death valley] is in the olympic national forest in western washington state. there is a plaque there at the approximate spot.

You are one lucky individual! I am green with envy!


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02 Oct 2011, 3:47 pm

hartzofspace wrote:
http://www.obit-mag.com/articles/the-looming-death-of-natural-silence

I was at a state park yesterday, and could not believe how many dolts brought along their stupid #@* cellphones to disturb the quiet. Groups of people entered the park, chattering a mile a minute about things that had nothing to do with the scenery. They left huge clouds of fabric softener smells, perfume, and other artificial scents, which lingered long after they had departed. And there were several noisy airplanes passing overhead, as well as the distant swish of tires on the main highway. Depressing.


I am sure there are several small islands in the Pacific which you can visit and not be bothered by other folks overly much. Why not move there and be happier.

ruveyn



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02 Oct 2011, 3:49 pm

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I am sure there are several small islands in the Pacific which you can visit and not be bothered by other folks overly much. Why not move there and be happier.

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I actually find being around other people quite nice, although funnilly enough it's always aspies which I prefer. I guess it may be a childhood thing which causes the predisposition to be alone.



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02 Oct 2011, 5:06 pm

ruveyn wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
http://www.obit-mag.com/articles/the-looming-death-of-natural-silence

I was at a state park yesterday, and could not believe how many dolts brought along their stupid #@* cellphones to disturb the quiet. Groups of people entered the park, chattering a mile a minute about things that had nothing to do with the scenery. They left huge clouds of fabric softener smells, perfume, and other artificial scents, which lingered long after they had departed. And there were several noisy airplanes passing overhead, as well as the distant swish of tires on the main highway. Depressing.


I am sure there are several small islands in the Pacific which you can visit and not be bothered by other folks overly much. Why not move there and be happier.

ruveyn

That sounds great! I wonder if i could get my disability checks out there?


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02 Oct 2011, 10:38 pm

Hawaii? <.<



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03 Oct 2011, 4:02 am

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Hawaii? <.<

I think maybe more something like Fiji, or Rapa Nui. Hawai'i is the big island in the pacific.



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03 Oct 2011, 11:12 am

Gedrene wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
I am sure there are several small islands in the Pacific which you can visit and not be bothered by other folks overly much. Why not move there and be happier.

ruveyn

I actually find being around other people quite nice, although funnilly enough it's always aspies which I prefer. I guess it may be a childhood thing which causes the predisposition to be alone.

Same here. I always enjoy my Aspie support group meetings, because I can relax and be myself.


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03 Oct 2011, 11:40 am

hartzofspace wrote:
You are one lucky individual! I am green with envy!


i can guarantee you wouldn't want to live around the yahoos i am stuck being neighbors with, all around me, for miles and miles, nothin' but yahoos.



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03 Oct 2011, 11:45 am

hartzofspace wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
I am sure there are several small islands in the Pacific which you can visit and not be bothered by other folks overly much. Why not move there and be happier.

ruveyn

I actually find being around other people quite nice, although funnilly enough it's always aspies which I prefer. I guess it may be a childhood thing which causes the predisposition to be alone.

Same here. I always enjoy my Aspie support group meetings, because I can relax and be myself.

I was not pleased to go to one first. And I don't go to the ones where they talk about certain 'issues'. I just end upgoing to the ones with chats.



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03 Oct 2011, 1:08 pm

my aspie meetups are the only occasions where i get to be around my kind of people. :)



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03 Oct 2011, 3:23 pm

auntblabby wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
You are one lucky individual! I am green with envy!


i can guarantee you wouldn't want to live around the yahoos i am stuck being neighbors with, all around me, for miles and miles, nothin' but yahoos.

There's always some flaw, isn't there? :)


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04 Oct 2011, 10:00 am

hartzofspace wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
You are one lucky individual! I am green with envy!


i can guarantee you wouldn't want to live around the yahoos i am stuck being neighbors with, all around me, for miles and miles, nothin' but yahoos.

There's always some flaw, isn't there? :)


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04 Oct 2011, 3:59 pm

auntblabby wrote:
thankfully, out in the sticks where i live, there are still moments of utter silence aside from the noises of the wind through the trees and the vocalizations of various critters in the brush. in the winter when it snows it is quiet enough to hear snow falling. about 20 miles as the crow flies, away from where i live, is another quiet spot [lake coquallum] so quiet that it is "deafening." it is quiet enough to where you can hear the blood circulating in your head, you can hear your heart beating, and the sounds of buzzing insects and raindrops stand out in sharp relief. i read someplace that one of the last totally quiet places in america [outside of death valley] is in the olympic national forest in western washington state. there is a plaque there at the approximate spot.


how does one go about moving to such a place? seriously. what would i need to do. what's the rent around there?



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04 Oct 2011, 4:16 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
thankfully, out in the sticks where i live, there are still moments of utter silence aside from the noises of the wind through the trees and the vocalizations of various critters in the brush. in the winter when it snows it is quiet enough to hear snow falling. about 20 miles as the crow flies, away from where i live, is another quiet spot [lake coquallum] so quiet that it is "deafening." it is quiet enough to where you can hear the blood circulating in your head, you can hear your heart beating, and the sounds of buzzing insects and raindrops stand out in sharp relief. i read someplace that one of the last totally quiet places in america [outside of death valley] is in the olympic national forest in western washington state. there is a plaque there at the approximate spot.


how does one go about moving to such a place? seriously. what would i need to do. what's the rent around there?


it's a long story i'll make short for your benefit- i was my elderly parents's caretaker, and when they both passed away within a short time, i had to move out of their house so the executor could sell it. i had limited savings and on top of that had been laid-off from my civil service job so i was short of $$$ and options, and had to find someplace affordable and quickly. i live in washington state, and the only affordable county in western washington happens to be in mason county, which has only one small town [shelton] barely wider than a wide spot in the road. but it is cheap over here, i found several small properties for less than $75k, and one that i could've gotten for less than $50k but it was in the middle of nowhere, over an hour outside of town. rents, unfortunately, are just as expensive here as elsewhere [like $400 per month for a rented room], so i had to beg borrow and beg some more for $75k to get a tin can in the woods 40 minutes outside of shelton, halfway to the middle of the county. nobody would give me a housing loan because i never made enough $$$ to ever qualify. the only thing that saved me is that i am a congenital cheapskate and save my money. i am of "a certain age" and that money was my whole savings up to this point, several decades worth. but out here in the sticks is far enough from town and the freeway that those sounds don't reach all the way out here. not even jet airliners fly over here, just the odd propellor plane like a piper cub from the airport on the other side of town, infrequently flies high overhead. but there is no civilization out here, just a general store like out of green acres or something. live here if you must but if you have anything on the ball at all, stick to living closer to civilization.