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25 Aug 2012, 1:21 pm

I was reading several online newspapers about Jeffrey T. Johnson, the fired NYC employee who shot his co-worker outside of the Empire State Building a few days ago. To wit:
1. He was a quiet loner
2. Ate the same thing every day - a takeout meal from McDonald's near his apt. building.
3. Blogged about his special interest - hawk watching & photographing every day in Central Park wearing a suit, no less.
4. Eccentric t-shirt designer (their words, not mine)
5. He was a creature of habit who vacuumed his one bedroom apartment every morning
6. He doted on cats and dogs, not fellow humans



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25 Aug 2012, 1:32 pm

Is every killer thought to be autistic?


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25 Aug 2012, 1:35 pm

Yah, people seem to find it hard to believe that any "sane" person would kill another person.
"Sane" people have been killing each other for thousands of years.
I don't understand why people have so much trouble grasping it these days.



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25 Aug 2012, 1:43 pm

Killers are usually sociopaths(ASPD). It seems like people suggest they're autistic just to start a debate on here.



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25 Aug 2012, 4:43 pm

Delphiki wrote:
Is every killer thought to be autistic?


Apparently everyone that pulls a weapon and shoots two or more people at once is "quiet and lonely" (media code for autistic).


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25 Aug 2012, 9:58 pm

Well... newsworthy killers are often "the loner...the neighbors would be lucky to get a hello from him..." types.

That was true before autism was known about. So its not "code" for autism.

So many are individuals who outwardly appear to have autistic traits.



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25 Aug 2012, 10:57 pm

PM wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
Is every killer thought to be autistic?


Apparently everyone that pulls a weapon and shoots two or more people at once is "quiet and lonely" (media code for autistic).

He only shot one person. The cops shot the other 8-9. Says a lot about how competent they are.



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26 Aug 2012, 12:07 am

I agree we shouldn't be jumping the gun when every infamous person of note was described as an eccentric loner, and having odd habits, and assume that they had Asperger's.

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26 Aug 2012, 12:13 am

Especially since "loner"=anti-social. And sociopath=anti-social personality disorder. :roll:



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26 Aug 2012, 11:34 am

Honestly, I wondered if he was on the spectrum when I read about hid behavior, loathe as I am to admit it. I also wondered if he was bullied by that guy, since that guy got into a scuffle with him in the elevator and one point and held him by his throat before letting him go. I'm not implying it's OK to shoot someone or that I think for sure he was on the spectrum.



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26 Aug 2012, 4:34 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
I was reading several online newspapers about Jeffrey T. Johnson, the fired NYC employee who shot his co-worker outside of the Empire State Building a few days ago. To wit:
1. He was a quiet loner
2. Ate the same thing every day - a takeout meal from McDonald's near his apt. building.
3. Blogged about his special interest - hawk watching & photographing every day in Central Park wearing a suit, no less.
4. Eccentric t-shirt designer (their words, not mine)
5. He was a creature of habit who vacuumed his one bedroom apartment every morning
6. He doted on cats and dogs, not fellow humans

A lot of that stuff describes severe OCD.


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26 Aug 2012, 6:31 pm

People with mental illness are statistically more likely to be the victim of a crime,not the perpetuator.I'm really p.o.that every time this happens people think it's a mentally ill person.He was a angry bitter S.O.B.,nothing more and nothing less.