Head transplant carried out on monkey

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21 Jan 2016, 6:29 am

Anyone else just think of Dr. Nicholas Riviera from the Simpsons after reading that head line?

Actual article if you want to read it: https://www.newscientist.com/article/20 ... k-surgeon/

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21 Jan 2016, 7:20 am

This has been going on for decades, at least. The goal is to remove a diseased or deformed body from a healthy head and replaced it with a healthy body, and still have the head control the body's movements.

It's actually a body transplant.

The doctor in question is looking for funding and human victims subjects to experiment on.

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21 Jan 2016, 11:59 am

Yeah, body transplant sounds much more true.
Sucks for the test subjects.
I can already see some rich people do some shady business with this if it actually works.

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21 Jan 2016, 12:10 pm

I was wondering what had happened with this as the doctor had stated last year he would be performing the surgery on the human patient late last year. I did crack-up reading this from the OP's article:

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Canavero says he intends to make a plea to Mark Zuckerberg to finance the surgery...

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22 Jan 2016, 5:03 am

watson503 wrote:

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Canavero says he intends to make a plea to Mark Zuckerberg to finance the surgery...

Yeah that's the bit which firmly lodged it's Dr Nick in my head

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22 Jan 2016, 11:17 am

Earthling wrote:

Yeah, body transplant sounds much more true.
Sucks for the test subjects.

I can already see some rich people do some shady business with this if it actually works.

They are far more likely to go for "young blood" transfusions. The story about that last year strongly suggested that Trump has been very interested in Young Blood.

I can see a future where some people are kept by the rich as living blood bags, something like the idea in Mad Max Fury Road, but in "the finest hotels and casinos."

The whole body route seems more complicated to actually get right, and has the tricky business of removing and discarding the head of the donor body, and the Young Blood work gives such huge benefits, who needs this?

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015 ... der-people

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22 Jan 2016, 7:45 pm

How's the monkey doing?

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22 Jan 2016, 7:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

How's the monkey doing?

Which one?

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22 Jan 2016, 7:52 pm

they reattached the blood vessels, but (as expected) were unable to reattach the nerves. the monkey woke up paralyzed and was allowed to die after twenty hours. this is an idea whose time will come once we learn how to heal spinal cord injury.

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22 Jan 2016, 7:54 pm

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Poor beast. I would think euthanasia would be a kinder thing in such a case.

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22 Jan 2016, 8:00 pm

TWO monkeys died - the donor and the recipient. What they ended up with was a dead monkey head attached to a dead monkey body that the head wasn't born with; a dead, severed monkey head; and a dead, headless monkey body.

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22 Jan 2016, 8:37 pm

Fnord wrote:

Correction: poor beasts.

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28 Jan 2016, 11:33 pm

I wonder how many more decades it will take for them to make this work?

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28 Jan 2016, 11:46 pm

auntblabby wrote:

I wonder how many more decades it will take for them to make this work?

Hopefully never. This procedure is basically right out of Shelley's Frankenstein and is terrible path to go down.

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28 Jan 2016, 11:55 pm

Aristophanes wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

I wonder how many more decades it will take for them to make this work?

Hopefully never. This procedure is basically right out of Shelley's Frankenstein and is terrible path to go down.

as an organ donor, if my head should somehow bite it but the rest of my body be intact, I'd have no qualms over letting somebody else get use out of my body with their head.

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29 Jan 2016, 12:11 am

auntblabby wrote:

Aristophanes wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

I wonder how many more decades it will take for them to make this work?

Hopefully never. This procedure is basically right out of Shelley's Frankenstein and is terrible path to go down.

as an organ donor, if my head should somehow bite it but the rest of my body be intact, I'd have no qualms over letting somebody else get use out of my body with their head.

That's a good, valid argument, but we're talking human behaviour. How long after this breakthrough before body harvesting happens on healthy people?

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