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30 Aug 2015, 4:40 pm

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You seem like a very intelligent guy. And you don't fly off the handle, and you consider other viewpoints.

I bet you'll get a girl soon. Just don't act like you are looking for a girl. Just go to places where your type of girl hangs out. And treat them like your buddies...until you ask one for a date.

I hope you find a lover soon.


How you know I get to find one soon? That what all counselors, psychologists, friends and families saying exactly same thing. Its frustrating to tell me it will happen, even when it is not. It make me feel odd for being a third wheel all the time. I have good friends who are usually couples, that frustrates me.

Don't act like looking sounds like giving up, because it seems a hint of disinterest for them. Like they see me not interested because I am not looking? That is confusing me. Majority of my female friends I made are always not interested in me, always are in couples, always have someone else and always being single and doesn't want one. It full of excuses. It has been same for five years.



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30 Aug 2015, 4:47 pm

OP: perhaps consider joining a Meet-Up group for people with social anxiety and other neurodiverse people. They exist, and I met some terrific people there - sensitive, insightful, warm hearted, inclusive and just plain lovely souls who also faced the problems of being an introvert in an extroverted-valuing society. I have some some lovely friendships with group members who have beautiful qualities and lovely natures. They are a blessing in my life. Some romances developed, though that isn't what people went there to find (I think). They wanted a social haven context where they could meet people who also understood what it was like to like as a neuroatypical. I have seen people arrive lacking confidence and all of that and watched them bloom like beautiful flowers - and in some cases, find meaningful loving relationships of a romantic nature.



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30 Aug 2015, 4:49 pm

I agree with the above, sir.

You're still young

Get that ideology out of your head that you'll never find love.



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30 Aug 2015, 5:04 pm

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OP: perhaps consider joining a Meet-Up group for people with social anxiety and other neurodiverse people. They exist, and I met some terrific people there - sensitive, insightful, warm hearted, inclusive and just plain lovely souls who also faced the problems of being an introvert in an extroverted-valuing society. I have some some lovely friendships with group members who have beautiful qualities and lovely natures. They are a blessing in my life. Some romances developed, though that isn't what people went there to find (I think). They wanted a social haven context where they could meet people who also understood what it was like to like as a neuroatypical. I have seen people arrive lacking confidence and all of that and watched them bloom like beautiful flowers - and in some cases, find meaningful loving relationships of a romantic nature.


I been member for that kind of group here in Brisbane for few months now. They don't plan so much events compared to 20's/30's group. I see that these people, especially the movie night at the library last Friday and usually have board games one a month there too. There were a girl that I liked to go out but she friendzoned or blocked me by taking other guy with her who isn't part of the group. Can't believe women has to be so avoiding me when I am trying to get to know them. I didn't even ask her out yet!

On Friday night, there were two couples there. Both have same issues, anxiety or whatever introverted like me. I didn't like being around them because I am too difficult to get one.



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30 Aug 2015, 5:05 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I agree with the above, sir.

You're still young

Get that ideology out of your head that you'll never find love.


I don't know what you mean still young?

Lot of young people I know already have or in relationship and sex. It makes me feel older than young.

So difficult to get things right. Can't find a proper friendship, getting into relationship or fwb thing. I don't like sex workers because I don't value money for sex nor they provide proper friendship values like my friends do.



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30 Aug 2015, 5:15 pm

I'm 30 years older than you.

You're still young.

My feeling: get out of your own way, and you'll be fine.

Don't go to a sex worker.

Always be clean in clothes and body. Always keep a good posture.



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30 Aug 2015, 5:19 pm

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OP: perhaps consider joining a Meet-Up group for people with social anxiety and other neurodiverse people. They exist, and I met some terrific people there - sensitive, insightful, warm hearted, inclusive and just plain lovely souls who also faced the problems of being an introvert in an extroverted-valuing society. I have some some lovely friendships with group members who have beautiful qualities and lovely natures. They are a blessing in my life. Some romances developed, though that isn't what people went there to find (I think). They wanted a social haven context where they could meet people who also understood what it was like to like as a neuroatypical. I have seen people arrive lacking confidence and all of that and watched them bloom like beautiful flowers - and in some cases, find meaningful loving relationships of a romantic nature.


I been member for that kind of group here in Brisbane for few months now. They don't plan so much events compared to 20's/30's group. I see that these people, especially the movie night at the library last Friday and usually have board games one a month there too. There were a girl that I liked to go out but she friendzoned or blocked me by taking other guy with her who isn't part of the group. Can't believe women has to be so avoiding me when I am trying to get to know them. I didn't even ask her out yet!

On Friday night, there were two couples there. Both have same issues, anxiety or whatever introverted like me. I didn't like being around them because I am too difficult to get one.


Could you identify a single member of the group who is an established member who seems to 'get you' (or the group organiser) and discuss with him or her how you are coming across to get some valid feedback that isn't tainted by past events? Ask if you could have a private talk for 5 minutes? Maybe there is just one simple thing you could identify and work on together which could potentially make quite a difference. You can PM organisers too and they treat things fairly responsibly in my experience, sometimes providing a bit of friendly support for members as requested as part of their role.



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30 Aug 2015, 9:36 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm 30 years older than you.

You're still young.

My feeling: get out of your own way, and you'll be fine.

Don't go to a sex worker.

Always be clean in clothes and body. Always keep a good posture.


I met a couple of 40 and 50 year old dateless virgins. That is so scary to me. This proves that I am not a good role model for future generations.

It good I know I am not going to sex worker. I seen many AS here does it to lose their virginity. It gives a bad image.

I am always clean. I wear formal clothing to my uni and work everyday. I shower everyday, shave and spray. I always been doing this for years since I become a man.

I don't understand why women doesn't like my qualities.



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30 Aug 2015, 9:41 pm

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OP: perhaps consider joining a Meet-Up group for people with social anxiety and other neurodiverse people. They exist, and I met some terrific people there - sensitive, insightful, warm hearted, inclusive and just plain lovely souls who also faced the problems of being an introvert in an extroverted-valuing society. I have some some lovely friendships with group members who have beautiful qualities and lovely natures. They are a blessing in my life. Some romances developed, though that isn't what people went there to find (I think). They wanted a social haven context where they could meet people who also understood what it was like to like as a neuroatypical. I have seen people arrive lacking confidence and all of that and watched them bloom like beautiful flowers - and in some cases, find meaningful loving relationships of a romantic nature.


I been member for that kind of group here in Brisbane for few months now. They don't plan so much events compared to 20's/30's group. I see that these people, especially the movie night at the library last Friday and usually have board games one a month there too. There were a girl that I liked to go out but she friendzoned or blocked me by taking other guy with her who isn't part of the group. Can't believe women has to be so avoiding me when I am trying to get to know them. I didn't even ask her out yet!

On Friday night, there were two couples there. Both have same issues, anxiety or whatever introverted like me. I didn't like being around them because I am too difficult to get one.


Could you identify a single member of the group who is an established member who seems to 'get you' (or the group organiser) and discuss with him or her how you are coming across to get some valid feedback that isn't tainted by past events? Ask if you could have a private talk for 5 minutes? Maybe there is just one simple thing you could identify and work on together which could potentially make quite a difference. You can PM organisers too and they treat things fairly responsibly in my experience, sometimes providing a bit of friendly support for members as requested as part of their role.


I doubt that the organiser will get into business like that. That sounds like sticky beaking.

I talk to my friends, the real ones about advice and kind of stuff including from their perspective. This strategy make me feel so good and protected myself from the external influences. I believe that maturity doesn't to do with this because there is a huge variety of ages of my friends from 20 and older. But the huge difference is that people's attitudes towards the different things.

I noticed that women are picky, so how I get picked when they cannot understand?



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31 Aug 2015, 1:32 pm

Your life isn't over. There is always hope.



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31 Aug 2015, 2:20 pm

You are right, it IS difficult for us, aspies. But it doesn't mean you should give up hope. I didn't have a relationship until recently, and I'm 25 and half. I think we are a minority, this is why it is so difficult for us to find a match. I am very lucky I did (or rather that my match found me), and I thank God for that. But I have felt the same way as you. I wanted to give up. No... I actually gave up! I thought there was no hope for me, so I stopped trying to get a date. I registered on this forum as a last resort to find some help with my issues. I wanted to be "normal". Then I found my love here (goofygoobers) out of a miracle, who likes me as I am, with all my weirdness, and I'm forever grateful.

I'd like to suggest two things. First, don't give up hope. Aspies have a hard time finding their mates, but this doesn't mean they don't. Second, use your time wisely. You are alone, but you probably won't be alone forever. Do something you like doing while you are out there searching. Get a cool hobby for example. It won't just be for your own enjoyment, but it will make you more attractive for women. Trust me on that. :wink:



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01 Sep 2015, 4:56 pm

I try not to give up, but I have passion in romance and love. I value relationships as partnership, where that I spend time together for anything working as a team.

I thought women like partnership-relationship values, which is unlike silly alcoholic druggos lazy like relationships in reality.

It seems that people here at uni don't look for anyone these days. Unlike I was at UG uni in 2010-12, the people over there looks instead not looking. Society has changed right?



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01 Sep 2015, 5:02 pm

I still think you'll find a girlfriend soon. I can sense it.



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01 Sep 2015, 5:09 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I still think you'll find a girlfriend soon. I can sense it.


How you know that? You haven't met me.

I got my first psychology appointment on next Monday who specialises in ASD. $60 per hour, so cheap. But I already had these appointments before like I said before.



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01 Sep 2015, 5:22 pm

Obviously, I don't know you LOL

I dunno....I can just sense it.



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01 Sep 2015, 5:34 pm

Everyday, I spend some time sitting and watching the birds who visit my sundeck. It is Winter still, and food is scarce; the Southerly winds coming up from the South Pole are cold; they live for the day, without certainty of where their next meal is to be found. They search hopefully; they never doubt their ability to fly. They group together, peaceably, alert, hopeful, observant, knowing they are both individuals and part of their species, and their own personal tribe. They flutter with joy around food I put out for them. Then they soar into the sky and land gracefully on branches high up in trees at heights which would scare the bejesus out of me, and sit there for hours, like philosopher kings, considering the world they see.

It will be evident then, that I see birds as a symbol of hope, a symbol that is always accessible and which never fails to re-inspire me. Spread your own wings.