How do you deal with people who wont listen?

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25 Mar 2006, 7:12 am

How do you deal with people who wont listen? You tell them the gwds honesty unvarshished truth and the response you get from them is a brain fart. Ones who wont even disagrees with a counterpoint just untilligent crud. You tell them its red and they say its blue. You tell them up when its reallly down. People who just dont listen to you tell them, those that think their is some sor of equllality between truth and lies, that everyones got a right to their opionion therefore what everyone says is equally valid, even when their opinion is factually wrong. How about people who use cheap debate tricks and logical fallacies to get their way rather than fact logic and sound reasoned thinking.

My parents are taking me (again) to this psychtrist who wasted 3 years of my life and money put me on crud that damaged my mind. He never listened to a word i had to ignored of my concerns( wadded them up and threw them away after i left) and constantly said red when i told him blue and poooped on any of the few new ideas a had. He took advantage of me by finding out my personal convictions and interests and used it to keep stringing me allong. My parents thinks he is so wonderful because he is so nice and polite. Id rather have a guy how was abrupbt and to the poin and knew something, rather than someone who nice and didnt really know anything Most of life i have been able to seen through charlatans scam artists, jerk arounds and giant wastes of time who reallly didnt know anything, till i had to come come from college and was put under his care. How do i deal with this.



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25 Mar 2006, 9:46 am

Just say, "never mind", and walk away.

Another line: "You have nothing to hear, I have nothing to say".

You can also say: "Call it whatever you want to call it, I won't argue".

No argument or discussion is worth bothering unless YOU have your chance to take the floor and say your piece. I know Aspies aren't usually known for having the gift of the gab but have you ever written any of your thoughts? I don't know how you are at writing but it might be worth a try.

I'm under the impression that psychiatrist you're seeing is just in it for the $$$ as well as being a legal dope pusher. With somebody like that I'd stand my ground and not have any more of that.

Just an idea. Hope it helps.


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31 Mar 2006, 7:14 pm

Be persistent at communicating to people what is in your best interests, and never, ever take no for an answer.



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31 Mar 2006, 7:20 pm

Your three years is puny compaired to me bud. I have been in some form of pyschotherapy since the age of 12 which means 24 years here including 9 months in a mental hospital. I finally said I had enough of that and have been lucky enough that my parents have honored my wishes. But with my ssi case coming up soon my biggest fear is that I will be forced to start seeing them again. To me it felt like the doctor's/coucilor's way was the only way to do something and who ever pay for the sessions could rule on how the issues would be delt with. I finally said the hell with this and quit. The doctor's/councilor's seem the most happy when I was the most depressed and that didnt seem right to me at all. When I was happy they werent. Go figure that one out.



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01 Apr 2006, 10:12 am

msamericanpartiot wrote:
Your three years is puny compaired to me bud. I have been in some form of pyschotherapy since the age of 12 which means 24 years here including 9 months in a mental hospital. I finally said I had enough of that and have been lucky enough that my parents have honored my wishes. But with my ssi case coming up soon my biggest fear is that I will be forced to start seeing them again. To me it felt like the doctor's/coucilor's way was the only way to do something and who ever pay for the sessions could rule on how the issues would be delt with. I finally said the hell with this and quit. The doctor's/councilor's seem the most happy when I was the most depressed and that didnt seem right to me at all. When I was happy they werent. Go figure that one out.

thanks you perversly made me feell alittle better



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01 Apr 2006, 10:15 am

unfortuntly my parents wont honor my wishes, never mind it my mind body and life



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01 Apr 2006, 10:17 am

their trying to fit a round peg into a square whole



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02 Apr 2006, 12:09 pm

Hyperion -

Sometimes you have to walk away from situations that are bad, if you cannot achieve a truce between all parties that comes even remotely close to meeting your needs. If you are of legal age, you can do that.

If you are not, you'll have to just try to tough it out. I know it is painful, but if you have no other choice, that's what you have to deal with until you are old enough to call your own shots. Then you can give the other people alternatives, and make your judgement as to what to do based on what they do.

Best of luck to you, hon.

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