What Works For You To Deal With Suicidal Thoughts

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11 Apr 2018, 5:23 am

What do you do that helps with your suicidal thoughts , do you have any tips that may provide relief for others apart from seeking a medical professional ( which should be done a.s.a.p )


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11 Apr 2018, 6:25 am

I just go along with it and make plans. I also remind myself my situation could be a lot worse. Like how people have to find social housing to live in for the rest of their lives, because their family members leave all their property and possessions to one family member who already has everything, and sod the autistic girl, she can go and DIE for all they care. So a “left-wing” family insists social housing deals with her instead (taking up housing stock) and disowns her as a daughter at the same time.

Oh wait. That’s me.


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11 Apr 2018, 7:02 am

smudge wrote:
I just go along with it and make plans.


plan the suicide like a fantasy or do you mean different plans ?


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11 Apr 2018, 7:07 am

I am disabled from a previous suicide attempt. I would say I am now suicideophobic to some extant I would be worried something else could go wrong and my life would end up worse.



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11 Apr 2018, 7:21 am

I was surprised when I learned that suicidal ideations are not a normal part of puberty. I thought everyone had them and the whole point was just not to do it. So I didn't.
I still don't. I know how, where and when I could do it. Sometimes it's all about not doing it for another two days. And sometimes the life is all worth it.
Is this person able to talk frankly about their emotions? It can help.


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11 Apr 2018, 2:14 pm

Distraction?
I don't know if anything really helps long term.
It's just putting it off.


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11 Apr 2018, 4:08 pm

That's what I was thinking


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11 Apr 2018, 5:25 pm

What I've learned from this forum is that if you are someone who has been suicidal but is not currently suicidally depressed, your advice on how you got from being suicidal to not suicidal is not welcome and it is in fact cruel and sadistic to share it here. If you don't currently feel suicidal and you learned some things about how not to feel like killing yourself, you should keep them to yourself because people who are suicidal don't want to hear it. It just sounds like you're calling them worthless emotional vampires if you suggest there are things you can do that might help you get to a place where you want to kill yourself less. That's what I was told.



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11 Apr 2018, 5:35 pm

It’s like that with dating advice too.


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11 Apr 2018, 5:41 pm

smudge wrote:
It’s like that with dating advice too.


Now that you mention it, I see what you mean.

I thought this was supposed to be a support forum, isn't it supportive when you make progress in your life to try to share how you did that so other people who are struggling with similar issues might benefit from it? I always thought so, but maybe I was taught wrong what support is. I didn't grow up in the most supportive family, so it is possible my take on how to be supportive is off, I have to admit that. Still, the "don't offer any helpful advice because it sounds mean to depressed people" angle doesn't make much practical sense to me.



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11 Apr 2018, 5:59 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
smudge wrote:
It’s like that with dating advice too.


Now that you mention it, I see what you mean.

I thought this was supposed to be a support forum, isn't it supportive when you make progress in your life to try to share how you did that so other people who are struggling with similar issues might benefit from it? I always thought so, but maybe I was taught wrong what support is. I didn't grow up in the most supportive family, so it is possible my take on how to be supportive is off, I have to admit that. Still, the "don't offer any helpful advice because it sounds mean to depressed people" angle doesn't make much practical sense to me.


Yeh, I’ve never understood how it’s sounded mean, but apparently it is. At least judging by those peoples’ reactions. I would have soaked up that advice while growing up, and any other useful advice. Information to me is like a gift, how can anyone want to turn it down?? If someone tells you what you did wrong in a social situation and possible ways on how to fix that, that is priceless, right? You would think it, but apparently not. I’ve had to hold myself back so many times when wanting to help someone out in a dating situation, or a potential one. I’ve never understood the backlash.


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11 Apr 2018, 6:10 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
What I've learned from this forum is that if you are someone who has been suicidal but is not currently suicidally depressed, your advice on how you got from being suicidal to not suicidal is not welcome and it is in fact cruel and sadistic to share it here. If you don't currently feel suicidal and you learned some things about how not to feel like killing yourself, you should keep them to yourself because people who are suicidal don't want to hear it. It just sounds like you're calling them worthless emotional vampires if you suggest there are things you can do that might help you get to a place where you want to kill yourself less. That's what I was told.


Well all I can say is I welcome your advice on this thread if you have anything that you found useful. Are you going to let a few posters keep you silent ?

@smudge did you see my question up there ^


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11 Apr 2018, 7:30 pm

I wish I had some helpful advice, but really, all I can do is wait for them to go away, and sooner or later, they do... but then sooner or later, they're back again. Most of the usual advice or things to think about don't work for me because I consider suicide because I feel like I'm nothing but a burden to others, not because I want to end my own pain - so for example, I am thinking about how it will affect my family if I commit suicide, the thing is that I think they'll be better off in the long run if I do.

Recently I've been thinking a lot about what will happen to me when my parents can no longer support me if I still haven't been able to get a job I can support myself on. I'm pretty sure that if my parents are no longer around to miss me, I'll just do it.


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11 Apr 2018, 7:38 pm

Might sound like a sick joke or just trite, but sometimes I'm convinced that my lousy executive functioning is one of the main reasons I'm still alive - that and a hefty dose of gallows humour, apathy and cynicism (a kind of morbid fascination whether things can possibly get worse.)

My experience is very much like what magz said - I just accepted suicidal ideation as being a "normal" part of my thinking since before my teens. It almost became a kind of sick running joke with my last therapist - she would ask whether I had had suicidal thoughts since the last session, which I would often answer honestly with yes. If she got concerned about it, I would just tell her (still totally honestly) that I've had them for as long as I can remember, yet I'm still here. I have been on the brink of acting upon it many times (collecting pills, learning how to tie a noose/calculate the drop height etc.) I honestly couldn't say what stopped me each time, but I am absolutely certain that it was never a fear of death itself.

I would say that "accepting" the thoughts in some way seems to be part of it - a kind of mindfulness maybe, to be able to remind myself that it isn't necessarily "madness" or "irrational" to have those thoughts, and that I've had those impulses so many times before that the odds are very much that they will pass. On the flip side, I think there's often nothing worse than having people try to talk you out of having those thoughts - the kind of almost emotional blackmail and trying to reassure with thoughts of the "better future" that you're "throwing away", generally just tend to deepen the depressive mood in my experience, and I'd much rather be left alone to ride it out.


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11 Apr 2018, 8:13 pm

Suicidal thoughts were part of my adolescence too, but I knew I had to get out of that household and out of that small town before I made that commitment. I promised myself that if things hadn't improved by the time I was 30, I could go ahead.

Well, much had changed between 15 and 30. Defer action, and do things to make your life better in the meantime.

As I enter old age, it becomes an open question again. I think what is most likely is that I will simply take worse care of myself and let nature take its course. But I am far from that stage yet.


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11 Apr 2018, 8:16 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
What I've learned from this forum is that if you are someone who has been suicidal but is not currently suicidally depressed, your advice on how you got from being suicidal to not suicidal is not welcome and it is in fact cruel and sadistic to share it here. If you don't currently feel suicidal and you learned some things about how not to feel like killing yourself, you should keep them to yourself because people who are suicidal don't want to hear it. It just sounds like you're calling them worthless emotional vampires if you suggest there are things you can do that might help you get to a place where you want to kill yourself less. That's what I was told.


Well all I can say is I welcome your advice on this thread if you have anything that you found useful. Are you going to let a few posters keep you silent ?

@smudge did you see my question up there ^


I'd rather not risk getting banned, I've already been told my posting is too "provocative" and it has caused several members to campaign to at least one moderator to get me banned. I don't want to "provoke" anyone, so it's better I keep my experiences with depression and suicidal thoughts and how I have dealt with that to myself.