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15 Sep 2006, 3:49 am

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I do feel an energy boost from garlic.


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15 Sep 2006, 9:40 am

"Plasma Selenium"

Is that an energy weapon or an anime character?


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15 Sep 2006, 11:34 am

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Myself I have taken megadoses of l-selenomethionine in the past 2000 mcg
(Se content 2000 mcg) a day
(10 times the normal dose) to detoxify heavy metals from my body. No people I was
not trying to cure autism. This was a few years before I heard of autism and I had tested
postive for high levels of lead.
...


Is this the same as chelation therapy? Ive heard that some forms of heavy metal removal are hazardous, because the metals can be moved around and deposited somewhere else, causing extra, unnessesary damage.



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15 Sep 2006, 11:51 am

aren't garlic and onions the same thing? i love onions :D



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15 Sep 2006, 2:26 pm

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Garlic contains the trace elements germanium and selenium. Maybe it can be that?


Well I was joking about it helping AS. Oh but selenium is one of those elements most people are low in. There was a study in which it improved mood (selenium).

Myself I have taken megadoses of l-selenomethionine in the past 2000 mcg
(Se content 2000 mcg) a day
(10 times the normal dose) to detoxify heavy metals from my body. No people I was
not trying to cure autism. This was a few years before I heard of autism and I had tested
postive for high levels of lead.

I do feel an energy boost from garlic.

Oh I just looked up selenium and mood and a later study seems to reject selenium
improving mood.

Quote:
Impact of selenium on mood and quality of life: a randomized, controlled trial.

* Rayman M,
* Thompson A,
* Warren-Perry M,
* Galassini R,
* Catterick J,
* Hall E,
* Lawrence D,
* Bliss J.

School of Biomedical and Molecular Sciences, University of Surrey, Guildford, GU2 7XH, UK. [email protected]

BACKGROUND: Selenium is known to be important to the brain. Three small, published studies have suggested an effect of selenium supplementation or deprivation on mood in healthy volunteers. We investigated these findings on a much larger scale. METHODS: In this double-blind, placebo-controlled intervention, 501 UK participants aged 60-74 were randomly allocated to receive 100, 200 or 300 microg selenium/d as high-selenium yeast or placebo yeast. Mood (Profile of Moods States - Bipolar Form [POMS-BI] questionnaire), "quality of life" (Short Form 36 [SF-36] questionnaire) and plasma selenium were measured at baseline and six months. RESULTS: Supplementation significantly increased plasma selenium above baseline values: from an overall mean (SD) of 90(19) ng/g to 91(26), 144(27), 191(41) and 227(53) ng/g in the placebo, 100, 200, 300 microg selenium groups respectively (p < .001). Four hundred forty-eight participants completed the POMS-BI questionnaires at both time points, with no significant differences in total mood or mood-subscale scores seen between doses. After six months of supplementation, mean (SD) total mood scores for the four doses were 163(36), 161(37), 162(33), 162(34), F(3,443) = .25, p = .86. Quality of life was similarly unaffected. CONCLUSIONS: There was no evidence that selenium supplementation benefited mood or quality of life in these elderly volunteers. Though this is at odds with some previous results, our robust study design, much larger sample size and longer supplementation period, together with the evidence that the brain is a privileged site for selenium retention, suggest that this is a reliable finding.

PMID: 16181615 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


I take 100 mcg/day since 1984. Good thing I haven't taken more, if it makes the mood worse. Did you know that it was discovered 1817 by the Swedish chemist Jöns Jakob Berzelius? He also was the creator of the system of elements that we use today. Other elements he discovered was erbium, terbium (from latin terra=earth), yttrium and ytterbium (the two latter named fron the mine of Ytterby near Stockholm. 8)


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15 Sep 2006, 7:03 pm

waterdogs wrote:
aren't garlic and onions the same thing? i love onions :D


Genus, yes ... species, no.

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Garlic isn't just garlic, there are many different kinds of garlic and they're almost all different in size, color, shape, taste, number of cloves per bulb, pungency and storability. Most Americans aren't aware of the many kinds since they seldom see more than one kind in the local supermarket. There are said to be over 600 cultivated sub-varieties of garlic (Allium sativum) in the world, although most of them may be selections of only a handful of basic types that have been grown widely and developed their own characteristics over the centuries as local growing conditions changed.



Allium is the genus, which includes garlic, onions, shallots, leeks, chives.

Garlic is all considered to fall under the species A. sativum, but onions are much more varied, with at least 14 species that I have found on the net. Allium cepa and A. fistulosum are the two most common onions cultivated for culinary purposes.


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15 Sep 2006, 8:07 pm

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TheMachine1 wrote:
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Myself I have taken megadoses of l-selenomethionine in the past 2000 mcg
(Se content 2000 mcg) a day
(10 times the normal dose) to detoxify heavy metals from my body. No people I was
not trying to cure autism. This was a few years before I heard of autism and I had tested
postive for high levels of lead.
...


Is this the same as chelation therapy? Ive heard that some forms of heavy metal removal are hazardous, because the metals can be moved around and deposited somewhere else, causing extra, unnessesary damage.


Yes chelation therapy is very risky in people who to not have very high levels of
heavy metals(I did).

Other that selenium toxicity l-selenomethionine is not going to have the same risk
as a powerfull chelation agent. I do not remember all the logic I was using but
I think it went like this: Heavy metals like lead (Pb) due their damage via oxidative
stress. Selenium is an anti-oxidatant and gets depleated when exposed to heavy
metals.

I think I was under the impression it might help lowwer brain levels of Pb also.
Most chelation agents are very poor at removing it from the brain.



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23 Sep 2006, 1:31 pm

Garlic is good. It tastes good on everything. I eat it on all my food. I eat garlic without food.



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23 Sep 2006, 9:27 pm

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Garlic is good. It tastes good on everything. I eat it on all my food. I eat garlic without food.


Me too. I notice after eating garlic , what I eat next taste much better. Its like it
cranks my taste buds in overdrive. I ate a clove of raw garlic a few days ago and then
some boring crackers and peanutbutter and it seemed like the best thing I ever ate.
(I had not ate alot of raw garlic in the past). I'm eating 1-2 cloves raw each day. And
cooked where possible. I do feel an energy boost or a sense of well being from garlic
that I have notice for many years.



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23 Sep 2006, 9:32 pm

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I'm eating 1-2 cloves raw each day. And
cooked where possible.


I wondered what that smell coming from the general direction of Texas was. I thought it was New Jersey, but I guess I was wrong.



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23 Sep 2006, 9:42 pm

werbert wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
I'm eating 1-2 cloves raw each day. And
cooked where possible.


I wondered what that smell coming from the general direction of Texas was. I thought it was New Jersey, but I guess I was wrong.


Whats wrong gotta little vampire blood in you Werbie?

Yeah I was in the car with my sister a week ago and she did not notice but I went
in the hot sun watching her kids for less than 30 minutes. When I got back in the car she could smell garlic. Oh they say it does not bother them. Again I luv garlic more than people so they would be SOL if it did bother them :)



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23 Sep 2006, 9:55 pm

I like garlic, too, but, Jesus Christ, 1-2 cloves a day?



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23 Sep 2006, 9:56 pm

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Again I luv garlic more than people so they would be SOL if it did bother them :)


I find that a little disturbing, since I hate garlic and love people. They're so much fun to watch, y'know? With their petty little concerns and silly little affairs. People are fun. Garlic is yucky.


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23 Sep 2006, 10:05 pm

I've only seen garlic in it's chopped up form on garlic bread. Anyone got a pic of the entire thing?


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23 Sep 2006, 10:07 pm

werbert wrote:
I like garlic, too, but, Jesus Christ, 1-2 cloves a day?


Thats raw. If I cooked soup I would put all I had maybe 12 cloves at a time in about
48 oz soup( I usually produce about 4 x 12 oz bowels that I eat in about an hour)
with a medium onion too.

If I made garlic bread I cover the top with sliced or crushed garlic and olive oil.

If I brown ground beef I do it with alot of garlic to.