Do you think 'society' tries to push people to be alcoholic?

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The UK does seem to have more of a 'drinking culture' than a lot of other countries.

I am allergic to alcohol and cannot consume it. Yet, when I tell this fact to others, they feel the need to test my patience by trying to force me to drink. It does not matter to them that I would die from internal hemmoraging. So, I started to make those that want me to drink a deal: They consume a nasty poison of my choice and live, then I will take a drink of alcohol from them later on. I have not had any takers to that proposition yet, nor do I expect to have any. Funny, the risk of death does not sound appealing to them, yet it should somehow to me.

One of my largest pet peeves is putting up with very drunk people. Just because I cannot drink does not make me someone’s babysitter when they are drunk. I am also not going to drive them all over like a free taxi service either. They need to realize that if they consume alcohol, then they need to be responsible for what happens, not me.

I wouldn't go that far; it's more like society pushes people in to consuming alcohol and expects people to know their own limits and stick to civilized drinking. (Civilized drinking = stopping before one gets drunk.) I don't see a problem in this, I think it's the same as with junk food and such: it's okay to enjoy them from time to time, but an adult should be responsible enough to set their own limits so that they won't get unhealthy because of it.

No.

I'm rolling on the floor, laughing.

I find that society could drive me to drink because it's stale and stagnant.

It's like there's an "alcohol spectrum" that people aged between 18 and 60 is on, ranging from those that don't drink at all to severe alcoholics.

1. Total non-drinkers
People who rarely drink alcohol at all, except just a tiny amount on a special occasion.

2. Civilized drinkers
People who have a few drinks when they go into a pub or bar, or like to enjoy a beer or something at home, but know when to stop and don't really get that drunk and aren't ruled by drinking.

3. All or nothing drinkers
People who drink rarely during the week but at weekends they go out to a bar and get paralytic and wake up with hangovers in the morning.

4. Habit drinkers
Not alcoholics, but still can't resist a drink, due to habit and routine. They often drink during the week but don't get too drunk, but if they are invited out or don't have work for a few days they might get very drunk, but no hangovers because their body has become tolerant of it.

5. Alcoholics
People whose lives are ruled by alcohol and don't know when to stop, and put alcohol first before all responsibilities (family, work, money, etc).

The majority of people, especially those aged 16-35, lie around numbers 2, 3 and 4.

Yes. Even more so than other English speaking countries like the USA. Years ago Morely Safer did a Sixty Minutes feature about the BBC, and about how things work in their offices behind the scenes. He, and we the American viewers, found it amusing how the BBC is constantly serving liquor (to guests, tolerates talent drinking, etc) in a way unheard of in any US corporation (media, or other any other kind).

I just had a glass of Lussac Saint Emillion 2011. In moderation, alcohol is fine.

Exactly. And beside of this an abstainer party isn't fun at all.



I think also the Germans aren't as bad once it comes to this. Even Tacitus had to recognize this long long ago. He mentioned that the Romans should have brought wine instead of their legions to win. But I'm thinking he was wrong. Once the Romans had started to drink with the Germans they wouldn't have found their way home anymore.

So... lemme update you all! I'm successfully killing myself slowly with about 3 litres of a mixture of vodka and mostly rum in honour of my favourite Jack Sparrow... in two weeks or so (apparently half a litre a week is recommended?)... and just bought 1.5l of whiskey that would hopefully last the entirety of the next five days of judgement and brimstone.

Oh, did I ever mention? Judgement is so 'painful'... not the physical kind, of course, but studies have found it originates from the same brain area... anyway, as if it's not enough to be 24/7 alone and only talking to one person on average for just 2 hours a week for the last 6 years or so... the maths is brutal, isn't it? But no, even all that didn't make me an alcoholic, in fact didn't drink for years before these three or so weeks... but suddenly people online are all like "everyone else does this and it's fine, but you did it too and it's not! And you didn't do this other thing now too!" - and everyone thusly jumps on this gaudy bandwagon. I hate my life.

It's so empty. I can try to cope with constant loneliness, got used to it in fact... was calmly playing an RPG just a month or so ago, was in fact watching a comedy three weeks ago until it began at which point horror was the only genre that could reflect what I felt, and alcohol apparently despite hallucinogens being my usual favoured inducement of altered states. I'm now so used to being drunk too... admittedly it's helpful when making phone calls to banks. But I still hate my life.

... in addition to UFO sightings, Bigfoot sightings, ghost sightings, psychic experiences, et cetera.

It seems that just about any claim in favor of something that would defy known physical laws has someone with high blood-alcohol content and/or a psychotropic prescription.

Don't generalize, I seem to simply get improved writing abilities... with hallucinogens for creativity, sure, but somehow even when drunk I seem to be 'smoother', able to visualize words with eyes closed seemingly better than when sober. Only just realized this, before I thought alcohol was only good to induce a coma.

No, you only think that when you are drunk. You think you are being smooth but to other people you are slurring and not making sense. I've been around lots of drunk people who think they are "more social" when they've been drinking when really they are just less aware of how much they are bothering the people around them because they are too drunk to pick up on it. Your brain lies to you when you're drunk, and you don't remember accurately afterwards how people react to you in the moment. Alcohol is brain poison that makes you think stuff that isn't true and makes you act like a jerk and think it's acceptable. I hate alcohol and I don't like being around people who consume it in large quantities because they tend to be the type who use alcohol to give them license to do all the sh***y things they want to do but feel like they can't when they are sober, that their better judgement tells them is wrong when they are sober, like hurt other people. People abuse others and drive drunk because of this property of alcohol, it makes drunks think everything is permitted.

I'd be considered a habit drinker.

Do I think "society" tries to push people to be alcoholic? I don't think so but commercials sure make it seem like it's the appropriate lubricant for all get-togethers.

I was referring to writing capabilities, though... currently e.g. I'm so drunk if I was more than this I'd vomit, and yet it's indistinguishable, isn't it? I don't talk vocally much, so I can't do much testing in that field, but I think it works in a somewhat similar manner to entactogens which seem to bypass some sort of inhibition (also antipsychotics, but those bypass it in some insane manner, like a truck that wants to bash everything).

I don't deny it's poison, though... I always hated the fact it's perfectly acceptable in society, despite better substances not being so... but personally I don't think I end up being a 'jerk' at all... I think, like most substances, it enhances already natural qualities... I have two cats and I think I treat them even better when drunk simply because their fur seems absolutely heavenly to feel, hah... but no, I don't drive anyway, and I'd never do in any altered state, it's nerve-wreaking enough to be driven by others to begin with...