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protest_the_hero
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09 May 2009, 7:02 pm

Looking at the diagnostic criteria, this is me(according to me).

A.Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:

(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction-NO
(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level-NO
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)-NO
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity-NO

B.Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:

(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus-NO
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals-NO
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)-YES
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects-NO

C.The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.-NO

D.There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).-YES

E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.-YES

F.Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.-YES

I used to have some problems with social skills but I've gotten past that. I have many mild autistic traits, like stimming and being a born free thinker, but looking at this criteria...I don't think I have full asperger's. I was diagnosed when I was 9 or 10. I have no comorbid conditions, except probably clinical depression but that's another story.



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09 May 2009, 7:11 pm

Are you being honest with yourself when answering these questions?
Stimming and some social problems can occur in NTs, too, especially if you're an introvert.
If you've answered all of the following truthfully, then you don't have AS.



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09 May 2009, 7:20 pm

MathGirl wrote:
Are you being honest with yourself when answering these questions?
Stimming and some social problems can occur in NTs, too, especially if you're an introvert.
If you've answered all of the following truthfully, then you don't have AS.
I have an introverted personality, like 25% of NTs. I even have that stoned look, so I hear. I've also had atypical mannerisms in things like eye contact. I'm also hyperactive. I'm no NT, but I doubt I have full asperger's.
EDIT: I just scored 84 aspie 116 NT on the aspie quiz.



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09 May 2009, 7:27 pm

Probably mild Asperger's, very mild. It's great to hear that you no longer have social problems.
What changed about your skills from when you were 9-10?


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09 May 2009, 7:31 pm

*yawn*



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10 May 2009, 7:33 am

protest_the_hero wrote:
MathGirl wrote:
Are you being honest with yourself when answering these questions?
Stimming and some social problems can occur in NTs, too, especially if you're an introvert.
If you've answered all of the following truthfully, then you don't have AS.
I have an introverted personality, like 25% of NTs. I even have that stoned look, so I hear. I've also had atypical mannerisms in things like eye contact. I'm also hyperactive. I'm no NT, but I doubt I have full asperger's.
EDIT: I just scored 84 aspie 116 NT on the aspie quiz.


oh you lucky bugger. I'm supposedly "very" mild and I got 149 last time I took the quiz!


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10 May 2009, 8:07 am

OK, I myself would have only chosen 2-3 criteria for me. But, the psychologist who assessed me recently said I had all 8. So, it's better to go to a professional for a full, more objective assessment.


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10 May 2009, 9:19 am

From what you've posted, no, you don't have AS.



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10 May 2009, 9:27 am

As I understand it the diagnostic criteria & the various tests are primarily designed for diagnosing children, & the problem with diagnosing adults is that by then they will have worked out ways around the worst aspects of their aspergers. So, perhaps at 9 or 10 your aspergers was more noticeable, & since then you have been particularly good at working around it & devising ways of mitigating its worst aspects?



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10 May 2009, 9:44 am

Only the ones for Autism are a little wishy-washy in regards to not explaining the developmental gains possible (i.e., turning into something similar to AS).

For example, Professor Attwood, the purveyor of "adults can mask it", uses Gillberg's Criteria for adults, which is far more stringent than the standard DSM-IV-TR.



10 May 2009, 1:48 pm

Congradulations, you have outgrown it. :D They call it a prognosis when aspies no longer meet the aspie criteria later in life.



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10 May 2009, 3:45 pm

Spokane_Girl wrote:
They call it a prognosis when aspies no longer meet the aspie criteria later in life.

I think you might have muddled up the meaning of prognosis a little bit.

It is a general medical term that refers to predictive "medical" guesses about the course a patient's affliction is expected to take. It does not refer to ASDs specifically, nor to good outcomes specifically (a prognosis might be that the patient is likely to die within two weeks for instance). In fact it does not refer to actual outcomes directly, but rather means "medical guesses about outcomes".



10 May 2009, 8:50 pm

pandd wrote:
Spokane_Girl wrote:
They call it a prognosis when aspies no longer meet the aspie criteria later in life.

I think you might have muddled up the meaning of prognosis a little bit.

It is a general medical term that refers to predictive "medical" guesses about the course a patient's affliction is expected to take. It does not refer to ASDs specifically, nor to good outcomes specifically (a prognosis might be that the patient is likely to die within two weeks for instance). In fact it does not refer to actual outcomes directly, but rather means "medical guesses about outcomes".




Lookee here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergers

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There is some evidence that as many as 20% of children with AS "grow out" of it, and fail to meet the diagnostic criteria as adults.[4] As of 2006, no studies addressing the long-term outcome of individuals with Asperger syndrome are available and there are no systematic long-term follow-up studies of children with AS.[5] Individuals with AS appear to have normal life expectancy but have an increased prevalence of comorbid psychiatric conditions such as major depressive disorder and anxiety disorder that may significantly affect prognosis. Although social impairment is lifelong, outcome is generally more positive than with individuals with lower functioning autism spectrum disorders;[1] for example, ASD symptoms are more likely to diminish with time in children with AS or HFA.[73] Although most students with AS/HFA have average mathematical ability and test slightly worse in mathematics than in general intelligence, some are gifted in mathematics[74] and AS has not prevented some adults from major accomplishments such as winning the Nobel Prize.[75]


That's listed under Prognosis.



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10 May 2009, 9:07 pm

Yes; listed under "prognosis" is a paragraph talking about expectations (and the evidential basis) for predictions about outcomes. That makes a lot of sense since prognosis is a word that refers to predictions about the outcomes of clinical conditions.

If you check on other clinical conditions described on Wikipedia, you will find "prognosis sections" are standard and not specific to AS or ASDs. Conditions that are fatal will in most cases state this in the prognosis section, so prognoses are not necessarily positive.

It would only take a few moments to check in an on-line dictionary if you care either way. I did not like to not let you know because to me, that's the on-line equivalent of seeing someone with toilet paper stuck to the back of their shoe, and not bothering to let them know.



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10 May 2009, 9:40 pm

It's probably just as likely a misdiagnosis as it is an improvement (AS is far more stable than Kanner's); this is why it's good to get an assessment as an adult if you've been diagnosed as a child and you don't seem to have such later in life.



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10 May 2009, 10:10 pm

I probably just have a slight touch of AS plus hyperactivity, introversion and emotional intensity which all contributed to my diagnosis.