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21 Mar 2011, 2:34 pm

I'm pretty surprised to hear this, but yeah it can be good be a asperger but it has it ups and downs.



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21 Mar 2011, 3:09 pm

If it was only the nonverbal I'd say: alrighty then.

You do treasure isolation?

Cognitively you are at the center, but you can break this internalized focus off temporarily to engage the outside, only because the outer is less richer than the inner.

Poor eye contact with a delayed reaction to social heuristics will win you many a girlfriend. :P

But you can memorize scripts and project a transformation of sorts by 'willing yourself' to act out the parts with body language in way that would seem natural, as if this would force it into you by practice. But those mirror neurons won't mutually dock in real time.

The lone wolf will always be there underneath it all.



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21 Mar 2011, 3:34 pm

Yes, I am new :oD A Borderline mind must be mega, people say "that the grass is always greener on the other side"
Where as you get to look into both sides.

You're welcome for the comment, people like you are rare.
I wish the world had more open-mindedness.

I probably wouldn't be so scared of the world outside my comfort zone if there were. :op



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21 Mar 2011, 3:47 pm

Forgot something? Not anymore, because you planned everything out three months ago.

Don't know what to do when your friends are busy? Researching and understanding the benefits of diesel engines will keep you busy for a few hours.

Having a hard time in math class? You can put that behind you, you'll enjoy crunching numbers.

Want to be able to fart when convenient? You won't have a spouse to tell you not to.

Want to be able to think out of the box? You'll never be inside of it again.

Want to count Pi to the 10th digit? You do now!

Having a problem with your computer? You'll know exactly what's wrong with it.

Have problems concentrating at work? Not anymore, unless someone's talking.

Want to be an ass and get away with it? You have an excuse to now!

^^ although I would not recommend doing that.



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21 Mar 2011, 3:47 pm

i dont wish i was autistic, not because there is anything wrong with being autistic, but because i am quite fine with who i am. ok i wish my metabolism wasnt so efficient and i didnt have such a fondness for carbs, making my physical person overly fluffy, but i really like my psychological persona.

i will admit, however, to feeling... left out. like an outsider. so much of my world these days revolves around autism. 24/7 it is my world.

thats why it is often hurtful to be dismissed or ignored for being an nt. doesnt matter how introverted, logical, or asocial you are, you can never be in that inner circle and fully accepted. you are always tainted for being nt.


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22 Mar 2011, 1:22 am

No you don't.



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22 Mar 2011, 1:38 am

I would almost happily exchange my disorder with you.


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22 Mar 2011, 2:07 am

Do you wish that you were autistic because you want to understand the person you talked about in this post?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3475027.html



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22 Mar 2011, 3:32 am

azurecrayon wrote:
i dont wish i was autistic, not because there is anything wrong with being autistic, but because i am quite fine with who i am. ok i wish my metabolism wasnt so efficient and i didnt have such a fondness for carbs, making my physical person overly fluffy, but i really like my psychological persona.

i will admit, however, to feeling... left out. like an outsider. so much of my world these days revolves around autism. 24/7 it is my world.

thats why it is often hurtful to be dismissed or ignored for being an nt. doesnt matter how introverted, logical, or asocial you are, you can never be in that inner circle and fully accepted. you are always tainted for being nt.


That's sort of sad! I never noticed you were being pushed to the side or anything like that, I know your name, and I think I've answered to you in the past, didn't we have a sort of argument once or something? I can only speak for myself but I have a hard time remembering who is NT and who is AS on here, since I post a lot in the parenting forum. You know you're not the only one feeling this way, I've seen this discussed in a few threads, sometimes people feel ignored on these boards, I am not sure it has to do with you being an NT!
But if I ever made you feel dismissed only for being an NT, then I apologise. I generally don't react appropriately to "NT language", it confuses me, but it's not you as a person that is being reacted against. Probably just the frustration I feel at not understanding the point.



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22 Mar 2011, 4:34 am

A lot of the things you are complaining about regarding Asperger's don't actually have anything to do with Asperger's at all. They are strictly related to social phobia, social anxiety disorder, and/or avoidant personality disorder. In other words: Not wired in. Not a part of your brain any more than any other habit you have learned. That fear you feel when you're scared they'll reject you? That's not autism. That problem you have with talking to the opposite sex? Also not autism. The fear of public places? Not autism. Scared of talking to other people? Can't make phone calls? Afraid you'll say the wrong thing? Afraid to share your ideas, make the first move, be embarrassed or teased, or deal with people you don't know? That's not autism.

Granted, social anxiety can be very closely related to autism; and yes, we are much more vulnerable to it than NTs. Social activity can be tiring, overwhelming, or even painful for us. But that fear, loneliness, and isolation is not intrinsic to autism; it's not wired in, and it's not an inevitable part of being autistic. If you have problems with these things, don't just sit there and feel horrible about them; they are known problems and they have been solved millions of times over for many different people, some of whom also had autism in addition to social anxiety.


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22 Mar 2011, 8:15 am

it doesnt matter what you are or are not technicaly,if you identify with us,then hang out with us and have fun.also maybe check out some stuff about body identity integrity disorder,which typicaly aplies to physical disabilities but it would give you people to talk to who want to be disabled



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22 Mar 2011, 9:04 am

I'm trying to think of a way that life seems to me. The best analogy that I can think of, is that it is like watching a badly edited movie. Have you ever seen a long movie that has been completely butchered in order to broadcast it on TV? Think of a long movie with a hard R rating, that has been seriously edited for time and content.

All of the individual scenes make sense, but the movie as a whole is impossible to follow. The characters refer to events, but you have not seen the events that they are referring to. You have a good idea about what is going on, but you can't really appreciate what you are seeing. Even worse, you have no idea about what you missed, but you suspect that it is something that you really would like to have seen.


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22 Mar 2011, 9:07 am

Yensid wrote:
I'm trying to think of a way that life seems to me. The best analogy that I can think of, is that it is like watching a badly edited movie. Have you ever seen a long movie that has been completely butchered in order to broadcast it on TV? Think of a long movie with a hard R rating, that has been seriously edited for time and content.

All of the individual scenes make sense, but the movie as a whole is impossible to follow. The characters refer to events, but you have not seen the events that they are referring to. You have a good idea about what is going on, but you can't really appreciate what you are seeing. Even worse, you have no idea about what you missed, but you suspect that it is something that you really would like to have seen.

I think that's an interesting analogy. I know I find myself having to figure out so many things from scratch and by applying logic, when other people seem to mysteriously know these things as if by magic. Perhaps it's like we're watching the movie that has been badly edited while everyone else seems to have seen the full version.



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22 Mar 2011, 9:42 am

Yensid wrote:
All of the individual scenes make sense, but the movie as a whole is impossible to follow. The characters refer to events, but you have not seen the events that they are referring to. You have a good idea about what is going on, but you can't really appreciate what you are seeing. Even worse, you have no idea about what you missed, but you suspect that it is something that you really would like to have seen.
That's very good.


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22 Mar 2011, 10:39 am

Hi guys..

KevinLA wrote:
No you don't.

hence..
NcNbl wrote:
...like its really gonna happen.. i just really want to know what it is like..
so that i could understand things and also help with things..
and i just really have a certain affinity for it without even being related to anyone in the spectrum.


matt wrote:
Do you wish that you were autistic because you want to understand the person you talked about in this post?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3475027.html

that incident made me write this thread, thats kinda what made me really say that.

but even way back when i was getting to know him and then he said he has aspergers which i realized attributed a lot to what i admire about him which i wish i also could be or do; i have thought of this then. and yeah, to understand him too of course and everything else.. but what i really wanna understand is myself. why i feel this way towards people in the spectrum and then specifically towards him. i feel at home and yeah i could identify with a lot of you in many sense which i don't get myself. now i also kinda wish to have it after what happened so i could be like him given with what happened. and i really want to acquire or learn some of the strengths of having AS. i am attracted to aspies and/or how they are. i could be attracted to NT's too of course, but not for very long, because i can't connect with them psychologically or mentally or whatever; i could, but not like how i love the connection i share with the people here most especially with my aspie.. of course there are odd behavior or thinking that he has that i really want to understand too now that had happened.

when i was getting to spend time here, i thought if should i see a psychologist because how the spectrum is seems normal to me. i dont connect nor feel the same way about NT's. i thought maybe i'm very sociable and socialized so well and so much that i got so used to and got bored or weary with NT'ness. it's like i am myself here with everything, and the NT life i live is like a role that i play like an actor; like my NT'ness is a performance. but i dont have the other stuffs AS has and i am an NT but the AS conscious feels like home..

so i said i wish to have it so i could understand all these.. so why do you guys think its like this? hence the question mark in this thread.. I think I like Aspies.. (?) that's why i want to be with him and why i dont want to lose him, its like losing my home..


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22 Mar 2011, 4:19 pm

Are you sure you aren't an Aspie?

There's no point in getting a diagnosis if you're functioning, but since you want to understand yourself, there's clearly a point to you looking into the matter.

Callista, not being able to make phone calls IS autism. Can you call someone on the phone? (Technically, I can make phone calls, but only with a lot of prompting, rehearsing scripts and wishing I didn't have to. And then sometimes it hurts and often it makes no sense or is an even more difficult situation than meeting people in person. And this reminds me that I have a call I've been putting off for a few weeks to set up an occasion to meet with someone... grr. Annoying.)

Also, while many of the things you mention are indeed not autism, but being autistic in a predominantly NT society with little tolerance for diversity does contribute.


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