Cruel(lest) ways you've been rejected?
I'm glad you like it. I can relate to so much of this. Not to mention it has also been quite therapeutic for me. I feel better - even in the outside world - because of this.
WrongPlanet, I think, is rapidly becoming my sanctuary. But you know what? I don't mind one bit.
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Probably worked out better for you in the end....I mean, she was probably in the principal's office for a reason, eh?.....

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"Give me a long enough lever and a place to stand and I will move the earth"-Archimedes
"We will find a way or make one."-Hannibal
"Perception is reality - which is why I try really hard to see the good in things."-Me
One time, I was about 16 and I started talking to this guy, who was about a year older, on the bus to school. I ended up joining the Buddhist group he belonged to, and basically he was one of the first guys I'd met that I felt I could talk to. And we were hanging out together most of our free time. And I thought things were heading, you know, beyond the platonic level. And he did kiss me at one point (although he later claimed I 'forced myself' on him). And his family assumed we were an item. Turned out what was happening was that while he was spending most of his time with me - discussing Nietszche, watching werewolf movies, swapping mixtapes and pondering aloud about the meaning of life - he was sleeping weekends with another woman (divorced, 10 years older than me, two small children).
When I finally sat down and said, look, you know I have feelings for you, I'd like to know where I stand and if you still want me around, he was very sweet and hugged me and said yes, he did love me, just not that way...and went and told the other woman all about my funny little 'schoolgirl crush' on him, whereupon she came onto me warning me to keep my claws off him. In the end, he wrote me a scathing letter, which was basically heavy on the theory that the age gap between us was too great(! !!) because I was obviously too young and naive to realize what relationships were all about.
Arg! This particularly pisses me off. I have an extreme dislike for people who go for teenagers, if they are that much older. Leave the young to the young! What a vicious cradle robber!
I actually really *love* this thread. I've read everyone's stories up to page six. These stories really make me feel close to you guys. I'm glade to see i'm not the only one who has gone through such things.
The older woman could have been brought up on charges potentially as well. And that letter he wrote to you definitely doesn't add up. I mean if he couldn't realize a ten-year age gap (between the older woman and himself) was greater than a one-year age gap (between him and you), he must have been REALLY bad with numbers. Or the sex he was getting was just absolutely INSANE! Man, I've heard of p***yw*****d, but I've never had any so good that I forget how to count.
And we're up to...what, 8 pages now....?
Now I'm wondering, what are some stories you guys have about cruelty that don't involve rejection?
Wow, that's what people have been telling for the last year! However, how can I ignore it when I'm required to still have dealings with these people? Illogical.
Maybe some don't care if it's a recipe for such. As long as they aren't held in any way accountable for it.
Again, wow. This is what I have recently had to put up with on top of the actions of the perpetrators. Those who had expressed support of me one week, even offering to make complaints on my behalf, were suddenly, 2 weeks later, advising me to drop my complaint (which has been for an ongoing and serious situation and they know all the details) and ignore what has been done, and still have regular face-to-face dealings with the perpetrator.
After hearing this, and that they went behind my back in their correspondence, I went into meltdown. I felt completely abandoned and even had suicidal urges, which I'm definitely not prone to. Someone advocated on my behalf, and I informed everyone of my consent for them to do so, requesting the previous supporters explain themselves; however, the supporters then add insult on top of abandonment by dismissing the advocate with a very defensive attitude, refusing to communicate, and stating they will only communicate with me directly.
It only works if the person is capable of logical thought, and if such education is congruent with their own agenda and interests.
First off, the majority of my good friends from childhood went on to become complete schmucks....most of whom wanted nothing to do with me; btw, this is going all the way back to PRE-SCHOOL, I KID YOU NOT.
The latest one was my now former best friend of almost 20 years. Yes, we ALMOST MADE IT. What happened you ask?
Well...first off, we were already beginning to distance for several years. Life happened. He had his, I had mine. The guy was always very insecure, and cared a lot about what everyone thought of him. He did teach me basic social skills and grooming so I have to give him that. I was a total mess before he stepped in, and I thank him for that. Regardless...
We were already distancing, and when we last spoke on the phone, other than business ventures, all we could think to discuss was the old times. If you've ever seen that episode of Frasier where Woody visits...it felt like that, I'm not kidding. Regardless, I still figured "well, one day we'll hopefully re-bond, and become closer than ever; it's happened in the past" Not this time...
I was on Facebook and saw that he finally got a girlfriend, and added her to my friend list. I sent her a message saying "Hope yer takin' good care of 'im!" He accuse me of hitting on her.
Now bear in mind, folks...he's in NJ, I'm in Ohio. How, even if I wanted to, could I hit on a girl over 500 miles away? Worse yet...this is me...as an Aspie, I'm one of the most loyal friends someone could have. I would NEVER screw him over like that. But, he questioned my loyalty to him, and I realized that our bond was pretty much gone.
He's still my friend, but we're not close anymore. THEN.....I recently sent all family and friends this online advertisement for my business that had been completed...and he accused me of forwarding him all my email. Even my best friend( yes, the guy who replaced him...and he's been ONE of my best friends--now my only one--for a couple years now) said "yeah, that's pushing it".
So, that's what happened between me and my now ex-best friend.
Now, when I was still in NJ and DATING, I was talking to some girl online, and she emailed me and said "I changed my email recently, so don't bother sending anything to this address."
I realized about 10 minutes later "if she changed her email address, how did she send me something FROM THAT EMAIL ADDRESS?!" Painful, trust me....
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In retrospect, I prefer the straight-to-my-face-honest-rejection to the gentle art of the snub. I don't always get the snub in a timely manner. In fact, trying to figure people out is exhausting, so I just try to be impeccably kind to everyone no matter what our history may be. It actually isn't about them at all, it is about me. I have never regretted being kind, but I am still occasionally haunted by the several times I have allowed myself to indulge in mean spirited behavior.
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Guys, ever get this from a girl: "You are so great Solinoure, wish I had a boy friend just like you. Not you - but just like you."? If I had a dollar for every girl that came to me bitching about their man, telling me how they were verbally and phisically abused... Lets just say I could treat myself to a really nice steak dinner. I had one friend, that I had a huge crush on, that I got kind of tired of hearing from. Every guy guy she was with, hit her. I joked with her that her first requirement in a man was "a good right hook."
Anyway, it strikes me that there is a bit of sado-maschochism to being NT.
Rule of NT womanspeak (one of them, anyway): "Your such a nice guy" = "I'm going to be dating leather-clad alcoholics and complaining about them to you."
I think that was on Sex And The City, I can't remember exactly...
That night I decided to set a trap for them. I looked for sleeping pills and laxatives and fortunately for me there were none BUT there was a bottle of tabasco sauce. I carefully opened the bottom of the sack of chocolate covered peanuts and emptied them into a cereal bowl. Then I emptied the entire little bottle of tabasco into it. I went away and about an hour later came back to find that the little chocolate balls had soaked up every last drop of the hot sauce. I rolled them out on a napkin and let them dry. Then placed them back in the bag and sealed it up with super glue.
The next day I layed my trap. They kids knew I had another bag of chocolates and I was sure they would try the same stunt again. I could hardly wait - and sure enough halfway through the period I looked down to see the the chocolates were gone. I could hardly contain myself and its a good thing that they were behind me or they would have know something was up. Anyway, withing a couple of minutes the three guys that sat behind me we gasping and writhing in their seats. When the bell rang at the end of the period my heart soared as I watched them scrample like jack rabbits to the water fountain. They sat in the back of the class but they were the first ones out the door.
Now this sort of revenge taking is not like me. I don't like to be mean as a rule and I figure that revenge only leads to feuding. Had I not been so mad I would have let this drop thinking that to get back at them would lead to them doing something in return. But here is the weird part. Instead of hating me and seeking retribution they became my friends. WTF!? They invited me out to socialize with them. We played games together and hung out. It lasted untill the end of that school year.
It seems to me that some NTs are just looking for someone to put them in their place...
That's so awesome!

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Besides my now ex-boyfriend, guess how many people came?
NONE.
My best friend got the date wrong though, so she had an excuse, and came over the next day, all day, to hang out.
However, those other people, had no excuse. Proved that I had no real friends.
Been there! I invited 47 people to my birthday party last year, five turned up. In their defense (never thought I'd say that!), however, many of them were genuinely grounded from an alcohol-related mishap at school two days previously. But it didn't make it any less embarassing.
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Yep, I think it's a common technique used by bullies at that age.
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My mum said (rather "implied") that to me. She was saying that because it ("it" meaning all the shite I have to put up with in general) has happened at every school I've been to, that I, and I will quote, am "the common denominator". Read: "you're the one with the problem". Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the polar opposite of what you are supposed to say to the victim of bullying?
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There is so much I can relate to in this thread; so much so that I wish I could reply to each and every post. I feel so much for everyone who's suffered rejection.
I've had many a rejection in my life, but here a few:
This one's not really a rejection as such, but I guess a complete lack of a friend's support. A couple of months after my dad died when I was at university, I was having a bad time with it. So, I was able to get some extensions to coursework. A girl I had thought was amongst my better friends suddenly rounded on me one day and said: "I just can't believe you're still using that excuse to get away with doing your coursework". And to think I wanted to date her at one time ... lucky escape, eh?
My wedding was a good one for family rejection. People who refused to come with lame excuses: my uncle & wife (who I'd especially asked to represent my parents as my dad had died and my mum was seriously ill), my cousin & husband (too far to travel - WTF this is England, not travelling from LA to NY), my brother's ex with their 3 kids (2 of my nieces and my only nephew), my Godmother.
On top of that, my "best friend" from High School refused to come as well, because he was "too busy". This is despite the fact his parents told me he had nothing to do, because he was out of work. And yet the time I met him not that long before the wedding he seemed best mates again, chatty, personable.
With my wife's family we got all her immediate family, plus cousins, second cousins, great aunts & uncles etc - not one family member refused to come.
Now I get my relations bleating that I never come and visit them
I've had girls seemingly interested in dating, who immediately switched off as soon as the idea was mentioned.
I just don't understand how people's minds work. I guess it's like the time in American Dad when Stan overhears all the neighbours bitching about him. He only realises it's not just him when some kid points out that all the neighbours b***h about all the other neighbours all of the time. It still doesn't explain a lot of the rejection I've had though (like families are always supposed to turn up for weddings if they possibly can, aren't they?).
Some of my daughter's "friends" have been cyberbullying other "friends" (blocking, bitching behind their backs & to them, making up stories about them, e-mailing them from imaginary boyfriends & then dumping them). Some of it's over playground falling out, or who's done what with what friend and not another. What the heck is that all about?
I have no "best friends" anymore (wife excepted). It's never worked, so I don't even want to engage with people to that point. I've had no picture-book endings with friendships, where we end up best friends for life.
I'm being ignored right now, as it happens. My flatmate arrived earlier with my ex, and asked if I had done the dishes while he was out. I said no, I was busy (I was on here). He went into a visible strop, as did my ex, and stormed into the kitchen. Today is my day for dishes, which I prefer to do before bed. Also, there was no prior indication that they 'should' have been done before 12pm.
As for me, I couldn't handle it, and I had to go somewhere, anywhere. I have just returned after 3 hours, to a less than welcoming atmosphere. I have no idea why it is this way.
But yes, we are talking about pasts.
In school, I was 'generally' rejected. No particular cases in point.
Since school, I lost an ex after introducing her to a 'friend'. There one day, ditching me the next.
This one doesn't class as rejection as such, but is probably worth noting. I was with my third girlfriend for 6 years, and during that time we had 3 daughters. Mainly due to my 'failures to engage' during parental assessment, each one was removed at birth and later adopted.
In December 2007, I found a new girlfriend. We 'seemed' happy (to me, anyway), until she ditched me by SMS on New Year's Day, citing 'it wasn't working out' as a reason. She then proceeded to ignore all my calls.
We met up again in September, and entered a 'friends with benefits' situation, which again only lasted a month.
I got a new girlfriend in November, and we lasted only 9 days together. She ditched me in a conversation with her friend on Facebook. All I knew of it was what the conversation said, publicly displayed on her profile, and the fact that Facebook proudly put "X went from 'in a relationship" to "single"' on my news feed.
Shortly after (just days), my 'perennial half-girlfriend' from before reappeared to comfort me. All was ok in our 'friends with benefits' until mid January, when she cut all communication (and Facebook) again!! This time, she keeps adding me and removing me almost weekly. Still fairly good MSN contact, if a bit sporadic.
Still, I have my religion. I made it myself, and looking again, it seems like my idea of an ideal world. The core principles are about uniting people, without fighting diversity.
But then, feeling cast aside and rejected, I guess it explains my 'soft spot' for the Pagan religions. Sort of a shared experience, considering what happened centuries ago.
I feel a need to stand up for everyone who's posted stories here on this thread. There needs to be much more awareness, to prevent any of it happening in the future. Nobody deserves to be denied happiness, and I'm very sure the majority of NT's will be just as touched and horrified as we all are. Of course, those responsible have probably forgotten all about it, as they probably thought nothing of it. I am almost doubtless that if they were here, reading these posts, their minds would be full of lead-heavy guilt. If they had more awareness, there would be a substantially smaller number of horror stories...,
... or am I just optimistic?
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My mum said (rather "implied") that to me. She was saying that because it ("it" meaning all the shite I have to put up with in general) has happened at every school I've been to, that I, and I will quote, am "the common denominator". Read: "you're the one with the problem". Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the polar opposite of what you are supposed to say to the victim of bullying?
I actually do this to myself. I can't sit there and say 'it's always them' because that's just what someone who is a jerk would do. So I always try to figure out why my friends always leave me.. what is wrong with me? Am I crazy? Am I actually the jerk here? I asked my mom that all the time and friends and no one can really give me a real answer. Maybe they're just too polite. I would really like to know what I do to drive people away .... but I suppose it is moot now because I do not intend to form any friendships ever again.
My mum said (rather "implied") that to me. She was saying that because it ("it" meaning all the shite I have to put up with in general) has happened at every school I've been to, that I, and I will quote, am "the common denominator". Read: "you're the one with the problem". Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the polar opposite of what you are supposed to say to the victim of bullying?
I actually do this to myself. I can't sit there and say 'it's always them' because that's just what a self-centered jerk would do imo. So I always try to figure out why my friends always leave me.. what is wrong with me? Am I crazy? Am I actually the jerk here? I asked my mom that all the time and friends and no one can really give me a real answer. Maybe they're just too polite. I would really like to know what I do to drive people away .... but I suppose it is moot now because I do not intend to form any friendships ever again.
Maybe it's nobody's 'fault'. French guy says 'Je t'adore' (zhu-ta-dor, means 'I love you'), English woman shuts a door. Who's in the wrong?
Good choice in music, by the way. 3 Doors Down - When I'm Gone.
((((hugs))))
~LL~
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