LFA people on here creeping me out a bit on here

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MFA already exists and it is currently not filled by the people who're considered LFA.

If we'd move those with LFA up to MFA, the MFA to HFA, then most people with Asperger's would probably be completely pushed off the spectrum.

Functioning labels don't apply all that great anyway. Which is part of what many people on this topic tried to say, too.

ProtossX,
judging from the way have spoken about LFA on here-even showing in the title,am find it impossible to believe that also work with autists-everything are writing is extreme ignorance and obvious that have had no experience with LFAs.

Being NV/PTNV/SI is nothing to do with being able to type-speech and language ability are two different things,some LFAs cannot speak or type,some cannot speak but can type-at the complete opposite end,some LFAs cannot be shut up-they will speak all day,there's a lot of difference in LFA-it is not one set level or profound only severity-and all have different needs,if really did work with autists would not need to be told that.


Mage,Sora,
Agreed.

I would just like to add because of KoR responding, I can't believe with his opinions that somehow he was able to get in the position of working with LFA's. I would definitely be concerned if I had relative that was a LFA under his care

I remember having this discussion with you before. Neither do 'experts'. No slight to them, but in most cases nobody knows how well a person function better then the person themselves. There is no real position on functioning, if you scratch under the surface. It is just an arbitrary guideline, passed down erroneously much like the students that are still being taught the glass is a super cooled fluid. The whole premise of Lower and Higher functioning is based on what Henry Goddard pulled out of the air in the early 20th century. Basically this 70 IQ cut off. Of course it fairly obvious to most that IQ isn’t necessarily correlated to how well a person functions. There are people that have very height IQ but can't do much independently.

So there is some logic in what ProtossX is saying, although I would go a step further and not look at functioning in such a one dimensional way.

I doubt that he is in the position of carer, or working with them unsupervised.

Just would like to comment that the discussion of skills & learning in classic/CDD autistics is quite fascinating. I do not understand why people find it "creepy" except perhaps because it is an unfamiliar and thus unpredictable way of life... If that is so, then the solution is to learn enough about it so that it is no longer unfamiliar.

Functioning labels... ehhh. A rough guide at best, at worst a way to stuff people into tiny, tight little boxes. Not a good way to predict anything about anybody; one "low functioning" guy is probably totally different from any other.

Plus, if you have Asperger's and they say "high functioning", they think you never need help, which sucks when you are trying to get them to understand you really can't do something and would like them to get off their butts and actually help you learn and/or compensate for the deficiency, please...

These two statements seem to contradict. If the person can be the only true judge of their level of functioning, ProtossX's diagnoses of those on the forum (and those he spends time with) would be erroneous.

I agree that thinking of the spectrum in one dimension is oversimiplying things. The DSM Criteria for AS shows this in that two persons with AS can have totally different symptoms in Parts A & B.

We need a dimension for every autistic person, I think. We're that diverse.

I find that my mind works too fast to have patience for those who cant communicate in some way by means of standard english.
But I do not ridicule them for it, I just dont say anything. But incontinence is freaking GROSS I must say.Thats just WAY Too Much for me to handle-in person.

So does that mean you are prejudice against them? Does that mean you will not be around with someone who has it?

It's not like you have to change them when they need it, they take care of it themselves and lot of them do hide their dirty ones. I am sure some even throw them away outside in a trash can so their partner or room mates would never have to smell them. You might not even know they have a diaper on in fact because they know how to hide it. My ex was incontinent and no one knew he had one on because it didn't look like he had one on.

The ones who can't change themselves are ones who are in a wheel chair or if they are mentally handicapped.

Well, if it were obvious that they had it, Im afraid that I would find that EXTREMELY distasteful but I wouldnt say anything to them or about them. I know they can change it but sh1t in particular is so violently revolting to me that someone sh*****g in their diapers whos not a baby is too much for me to take.

Wait but how can they change their diapers after it happens if they can't even use the restroom while its happening?

Wouldn't Incontinent mean that they are unable to tell anything is going on even after its happened?

I just don't understand how you can change yourself after you go to the bathroom, but you can't go to the bathroom and save yourself the trouble of all that other work?

Is there some particular reason why you are so fixated on elimination? Wait a minute...I don't really care. I'd much rather talk to KoR than you any day. I've changed many diapers, baby and adult. It's not that big a deal.

Some people cannot change their diapers at all...others can change wet ones but not messy...some can change them all. no incontinent does not mean you are unable to tell after anything has happened....its not knowing when its happening. after it has happened you know unless you are paralyzed. people that are incontinent cannot go to the bathroom in the toilet because they do not know when they have to go...anymore than you can plan having a meltdown over your sensitivity issues you posted about...what you are saying is like me saying .... Stop having problems with sensitivity issues.....you cant do it can you?

Ok i just took a dump I had to use quite a bit of force to push it out of my butt into the toilet

it doesn't just magically fall out of my butt yes SENSORY tells you, you have to go, but you still have to push when its time it doesn't just come out on its own free will like you claim jayson

believe me ive never had poop just come out without having to do some work