Cruel(lest) ways you've been rejected?

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TitusLucretiusCarus
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02 Mar 2009, 1:32 pm

- Lord Kristov

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Man, I've heard of p***yw*****d, but I've never had any so good that I forget how to count.


In the immortal words of Colonel Kilgore "Outstanding, red team, outstanding; get ya a case of beer for that". Great stuff.

So far as starting over goes I seem to get that little bit fitter/faster/smarter/stronger(stranger) each time i pick myself up.

Also totally agree with what you've said about verbal and emotional abuse, do not tolerate it man.



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02 Mar 2009, 2:29 pm

So much to relate to in everyone's stories, I don't have time to comment on all! But rest assured I relate very much.

One more that classifies as cruel(lest) rejection: During the worst time of my life I met a woman online and we corresponded intensively for about 4 years. It was a very special connection and conversation. She kept repeating how she'd always be there for me and how special I was to her. Not that I believe these things, haven't for many years, but still... One day I sent her an email as usual and she had blocked me. End of story. Some people are just s**t with 2 eyes.


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02 Mar 2009, 2:41 pm

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I think that he might have said that to her to hurt her more. It's as if he was saying "you are a child, I'm a man and I want a *real* woman, and this other woman i'm with is one." without actually saying it.


ShadesofMe, that's what I think too. And LordKristov, 17 is actually technically above the age of consent in the UK, and for some odd reason the law and the press have this habit of assuming that older women can't sexually exploit younger men anyway. Or if it happens, they're lucky b******s rather than victims. At least, that's what usually happens in cases where teachers seduce their male pupils. Go figure.

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Rule of NT womanspeak (one of them, anyway): "Your such a nice guy" = "I'm going to be dating leather-clad alcoholics and complaining about them to you."


My husband says he got called 'sweet' by girls at his school all the time as a teen, and that it probably meant much the same. They were happy to talk to him, but when it came to dating they wanted someone who was more into getting drunk and beating people up. (He says the one major advantage he had over such guys was that, not being a smoker, he could usually run faster than them so they rarely managed to beat him up.)


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02 Mar 2009, 3:50 pm

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I'm being ignored right now, as it happens. My flatmate arrived earlier with my ex, and asked if I had done the dishes while he was out. I said no, I was busy (I was on here). He went into a visible strop, as did my ex, and stormed into the kitchen. Today is my day for dishes, which I prefer to do before bed. Also, there was no prior indication that they 'should' have been done before 12pm.

As for me, I couldn't handle it, and I had to go somewhere, anywhere. I have just returned after 3 hours, to a less than welcoming atmosphere. I have no idea why it is this way.

But yes, we are talking about pasts.
In school, I was 'generally' rejected. No particular cases in point.

Since school, I lost an ex after introducing her to a 'friend'. There one day, ditching me the next.

This one doesn't class as rejection as such, but is probably worth noting. I was with my third girlfriend for 6 years, and during that time we had 3 daughters. Mainly due to my 'failures to engage' during parental assessment, each one was removed at birth and later adopted.

In December 2007, I found a new girlfriend. We 'seemed' happy (to me, anyway), until she ditched me by SMS on New Year's Day, citing 'it wasn't working out' as a reason. She then proceeded to ignore all my calls.

We met up again in September, and entered a 'friends with benefits' situation, which again only lasted a month.

I got a new girlfriend in November, and we lasted only 9 days together. She ditched me in a conversation with her friend on Facebook. All I knew of it was what the conversation said, publicly displayed on her profile, and the fact that Facebook proudly put "X went from 'in a relationship" to "single"' on my news feed.

Shortly after (just days), my 'perennial half-girlfriend' from before reappeared to comfort me. All was ok in our 'friends with benefits' until mid January, when she cut all communication (and Facebook) again!! This time, she keeps adding me and removing me almost weekly. Still fairly good MSN contact, if a bit sporadic.

Still, I have my religion. I made it myself, and looking again, it seems like my idea of an ideal world. The core principles are about uniting people, without fighting diversity.

But then, feeling cast aside and rejected, I guess it explains my 'soft spot' for the Pagan religions. Sort of a shared experience, considering what happened centuries ago.

I feel a need to stand up for everyone who's posted stories here on this thread. There needs to be much more awareness, to prevent any of it happening in the future. Nobody deserves to be denied happiness, and I'm very sure the majority of NT's will be just as touched and horrified as we all are. Of course, those responsible have probably forgotten all about it, as they probably thought nothing of it. I am almost doubtless that if they were here, reading these posts, their minds would be full of lead-heavy guilt. If they had more awareness, there would be a substantially smaller number of horror stories...,

... or am I just optimistic?

((((hugs all))))

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Dude, they're gonna be subject to it, regardless. All we can do is make 'em aware of what will LIKELY happen.

One big problem I notice here is most of the folks have already shown what a joke the whole socialization spectrum really is...and still want to know why they don't fit in properly to it. I think that's a bit contradictory, and shouldn't worry as much about it.



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02 Mar 2009, 4:23 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
omgkeke wrote:
I invited at least 50 people to my high school graduation party.

Besides my now ex-boyfriend, guess how many people came?

NONE.

My best friend got the date wrong though, so she had an excuse, and came over the next day, all day, to hang out.

However, those other people, had no excuse. Proved that I had no real friends.


Been there! I invited 47 people to my birthday party last year, five turned up. In their defense (never thought I'd say that!), however, many of them were genuinely grounded from an alcohol-related mishap at school two days previously. But it didn't make it any less embarassing.
I wouldn't even have that many people to invite! I never did. And if I did, they probably would have: A. Not shown, or B. Shown up and attempt to harass, embarrass, and humiliate me, and then talk about it at school.



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02 Mar 2009, 7:01 pm

TheDoctor82 wrote:
One big problem I notice here is most of the folks have already shown what a joke the whole socialization spectrum really is...and still want to know why they don't fit in properly to it. I think that's a bit contradictory, and shouldn't worry as much about it.


If 'fitting in' means being a dishonorable, backstabbing b***h/bastard, I'm not sure I would want to fit in. I just wish I had a community of honest people I could be with.



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02 Mar 2009, 7:18 pm

i really feel one of the worst ways is when someone is not straight down the line with you...when people do not say what they mean but string you along anyway.
for me as an aspie, that is probably the biggest and worst dumping you cen ever give. To not be straight, to not give clarity. to not answer questions, to leave you in a very awful space of not knowing.

Most humans find this unbearable. I suspect many AS people find it cruel and almost so devastating it breaks trust forever.

i try to watch out for that in my life - but i am so lousy at judging people it still happens.



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02 Mar 2009, 9:00 pm

I was kicked out of a band for some reason...by the two other girls in the band.
I was also kicked out of my first apartment by my roommates because I "didn't fit in"
I was unanimously rejected by all the friends of one of my earlier boyfriends, and they were not very nice about it...

blah blah...



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03 Mar 2009, 1:15 am

ThatRedHairedGrrl wrote:
And LordKristov, 17 is actually technically above the age of consent in the UK, and for some odd reason the law and the press have this habit of assuming that older women can't sexually exploit younger men anyway. Or if it happens, they're lucky b******s rather than victims. At least, that's what usually happens in cases where teachers seduce their male pupils. Go figure.


Ah, didn't know you were in the UK. Here in the US, the age of consent is determined by state.

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
Rule of NT womanspeak (one of them, anyway): "Your such a nice guy" = "I'm going to be dating leather-clad alcoholics and complaining about them to you."


And people wonder why 50% of marriages end in divorce...

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My husband says he got called 'sweet' by girls at his school all the time as a teen, and that it probably meant much the same. They were happy to talk to him, but when it came to dating they wanted someone who was more into getting drunk and beating people up. (He says the one major advantage he had over such guys was that, not being a smoker, he could usually run faster than them so they rarely managed to beat him up.)


Half the time, they were probably talking to him to get their boyfriends jealous. I am trying to think of something else to say, but's it late on this side of the pond and I need to go to bed now.


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03 Mar 2009, 1:38 am

just being plain ignored.


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03 Mar 2009, 9:50 am

I can relate to a lot of the posts on this thread. Once in school I was in a class and I sat down with a group of girls. One of the girls actually said "Don't Sit here." I then asked "Why not?" and she said "You're not our type." Go sit with those girls over there." When I was in eighth grade I went to a slumber party at someone's house. When I was asleep someone came and poured Kool-Aid all over me. And of course in elementary school I was always the only one not invited to a birthday party.

When I was a freshman in college my roommate moved out with the explanation that I was different. I said "What do you mean" and she said "I don't know. You're just different." Then she had the nerve to say "You're a sweet person."

Once I went to a summer camp when I was thirteen years old. I hated it. My Dad made me go to it; it was a horse camp and I had never been horse back riding before. I got thrown off of a horse and I cried for a long time because it was scary. One of the staff said "You are one of the most insecure individuals I have ever met."! One of the other campers thought I was crippled and one had the nerve to say in front of me "It's probably not her fault that she can't do much of anything."



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03 Mar 2009, 11:11 am

Well, the cruelest thing still stands out at the age of 40...and it happened when I was in middle school.

Before anyone knew about AS, I was a kid who was the social outcast. A problem then (as it is now) is that I was starved for attention and affection, so anyone who let me get close tended to be overwhelmed.

My mom had a friend. That woman had two kids. They came over and we would play. Sometimes we'd go over there and we'd play while the adults did their thing.

Naturally, I had no way to distinguish if someone was being polite or actually liked me....frankly, I was so starved for social interaction that I didn't care (although I would hope it was the latter). In hindsight, I can see that I wasn't much of a "friend" to this woman's son. I always wanted to play with his toys and do things with him that interested me, but he either never made a big deal about it or I never picked up on it (if not a bit of both).

After a few months of occasional visits over. This boy was having his birthday (IIRC). He was into D&D so I got him one of the newest D&D games in the toy store (not a lot of money, but I thought he'd like it).

At this party were the boy's REAL friends. I understood that I had to "share" him with the others, but almost immediately he began spending his time with them and somewhat avoiding me. I was like a proverbial puppy following the litter hoping for whatever scraps were dropped that nobody else snatched up before I could get to them.

I suppose my constant tagging along was an annoyance. One of the the REAL friends asked him (with a tone of irritation) who I was and why I was there.

This boy (who I thought was my friend because he was nice to me) said, "Oh, he's just my mother's friend's son."

He knew my name, but he didn't use it.

I never heard myself referred to in the 3rd person....when I was in the room.

To say I was shocked was an understatement. I wanted to cry (something I did only in extreme emotional distress) because I knew he didn't want me at his party, but the realization that I was never his friend was just too much to process at that moment.

I had the presence of mind to quietly walk out of the room. I found a room I could sit in alone until it was time to leave. After that day I refused to ever go back to that house. I never talked to my parents about what happened and they didn't ask any questions. I don't know how much they ever figured out about what happened that night.

I learned that night to never mistake people being polite for friendship. It wouldn't be the only time I made a mistake along those lines, but given the young age and the circumstances, this had to be the worst thing I experienced.



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03 Mar 2009, 11:15 am

Someone played a cruel joke on another girl by calling me up and inviting me to a non-existent party at her house.... :wink:



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03 Mar 2009, 11:33 am

RE: Anger and bitterness.

It's interesting how much anger and bitterness issues some people in this thread seem to struggle with over past garbage.

It isn't that I have no "anger" over what I lost because of AS (and not knowing about it) for the last 40 years, but right now, I feel like the weight of the world has been lifted off of me.

For over 20 years, I blamed myself for failing as "a man" because I couldn't accomplish what other "men" were able to achieve.

I perceived my failures as a shortcoming in my character....for being "weak."

Now, I understand that there is something "off" within me that cannot be fixed. All I can do is do what I've done my whole life...adapt to fit in better with "normal" society, but I'll never be "normal" myself. If anything, I have "succeeded" quite well considering all that I have has come from hard work to overcome something I never truly understood until now.

As far as the brutish behavior of others....frankly, I stopped caring about them (even more so than an AS person might be inclined to not care about others).

People do stupid things. Kids do stupid and selfish things because they don't know better. Adolescents and (sadly) young adults do whatever their peer groups say to do. Many adults are just jerks.

I have enough people in my life who largely accept me the way I am. It's not a big group, but it's enough to know I'm not some "mistake" that has no place in the world.

I've wasted enough time being angry and "hating" over past hurts....most of it directed at myself. I think I've given enough of my already short existence to that waste of energy.



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03 Mar 2009, 1:24 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
I learned that night to never mistake people being polite for friendship.


Please teach me how to distinguish between the two, because I can't to this day. :(


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03 Mar 2009, 1:44 pm

Greentea wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
I learned that night to never mistake people being polite for friendship.


Please teach me how to distinguish between the two, because I can't to this day. :(


I suppose the only tip is to never assume because someone is nice to you that they are a "friend." Rely on something more concrete (like them telling you). For me, not knowing I had AS, I just accepted polite conduct as someone liking me...which was a mistake.

I am in a couple of groups and when we get together, I know they may "like" me, but I can't be certain. I'm fairly certain if they didn't want me around that some would say so...but you never know.