An autism specialist is so expensive!

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06 Aug 2009, 5:18 am

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I finally was able to find an autism specialist near my area. For the 1st appointment, where I bring information on my school performance and explain my childhood, the cost is $170. If the information from that appointment isn't sufficient enough for a diagnosis, then the cost of taking diagnostic exams can range from $790 to close to $2,000!
I have lousy insurance, in which I need to meet a $5,000 deductible before it starts to pay for everything. (Boy, the whole health care policy in the U.S. sure sucks.)
I am who I am, so maybe it's not worth worrying so much about an official 2nd/3rd opinion. But then again, I want to change my career and I feel that I might need help with career assistance and placement from the Department of Rehabilitation. (Oddly enough, my last case from the DOR was almost considered too severe to be accepted, even though my psychotherapist took up to a few years to diagnose me.)
Is there a government program where you can be reassessed for disabilities without much of an expensive fee? Can the DOR re-assess you?


That isn't because the person is an autism specialist. It is because they are a psychologist or psychiatrist.

Well, if anyone thinks Obama wants tp HELP, please read: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c ... c111EmKdQi

That is the site run by the US Library of congress, and is the same one congress goes to. It was also created under the clinton administration, so no person in congress can honestly say anything against its veracity.

It is ridiculous.

And the $5000 deductible you have is because you apparently have a REAL low premium plan. You should ask your employer or agent if they have a lower deductible one. My new one is $500, and most are closer to $1000.

Unfortunately, I can't say anything about how the D.O.R might react.

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06 Aug 2009, 5:25 am

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If you're a run-of-the-mill case of AS, the initial $170 should suffice. "Experts" tends to know the manifestation/appearance of AS and AD quite well.

The initial one was enough in my case (within about 5 minutes of talking she said I had AS), and I was 25 at the time, so I mustn't be that obviously different in appearance, especially as I saw many psychologists and psychiatrists in a mental hostel who said I had OCD [and never brought up an ASD].


Didn't you YOURSELF say that AS was a bad diagnosis for you?

And you are contradicting yourself because you speak of how SO MANY others diagnosed you as OCD, IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL!

The fact is that the speed depends on the doctor, their preconceived notions, your presentation, and dumb luck.

That is not only logical, historical, and shown in nearly every presentation of it, and also shown by the experiences of many people here.



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06 Aug 2009, 5:32 am

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In my country, an AS diagnosis costs a fortune for adults and is free for children. Adults don't get any help from any insurance or gov't entity for the diagnosis. This means there are lots of adult Aspies who are undiagnosed because they'll never be able to afford it, since Aspies usually can't work. It's doubly unfair because when we were children there was no AS diagnosis, so there's no way we could've been diagnosed back then. It's plain meanness.


All that is the SAME in the US! When I was a kid in school, a psychologist DID see me FOR FREE! That was LONG before AS was known though. My stims were fairly normal for a kid that age, talking and rudeness were chalked up to normal ALSO, my shyness was syness and, HECK, my first visit to a psychologist would have appeared far from shy.

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And God forbid, should you rub one of these 2 women the wrong way with a word you say, you'll never get a diagnosis and therefore no help from Social Security. You have to suck up to them and be very careful to stroke their egos at every turn or else.

It's all nastiness and exploitation of the suffering adults with AS, who have no way to help themselves.


That is ALSO similar here.



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06 Aug 2009, 5:43 am

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It's always sunny in California? :?



Oh yes, it's always sunny. We all live and look just like the people from "Bay Watch" (Oh goodness, I can't be dating myself with that show, can I? ). It's all one big surf party all the time. With the movie stars, or course. And since the state is overflowing with money, and has no debts at all, our schools are magnificent. I just love our governor, Arnold Schwarzeneggar, more and more each day. He's my hero!


NOT!!

Actually it's a total mess.


Yeah, FRANKLY, minors(those under 18 and TECHNICALLY under 25 in this case) shouldn't talk about such things. They misrepresent, and really don't know what they are talking about. Children have about five things going for them:

1. They are in school, and such things are generally covered by the school.
2. They affect jobs that are generally union, so the unions will fight for them.
3. They are children, and people care more about kids.
4. If you are under 25, you are often covered under your PARENTS health insurance!! !! !

Just wait until he is 25+ and/or moves out, and has to do things HIMSELF! THEN he'll get it!

BTW there is a program here called "It's always sunny in philidelphia". Maybe it was a play on that.



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06 Aug 2009, 6:18 am

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Yeah, FRANKLY, minors(those under 18 and TECHNICALLY under 25 in this case) shouldn't talk about such things. They misrepresent, and really don't know what they are talking about. Children have about five things going for them:

1. They are in school, and such things are generally covered by the school.
2. They affect jobs that are generally union, so the unions will fight for them.
3. They are children, and people care more about kids.
4. If you are under 25, you are often covered under your PARENTS health insurance!! !! !

That's four things, not five...

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Just wait until he is 25+ and/or moves out, and has to do things HIMSELF! THEN he'll get it!

Wait, are you talking about me? :roll:


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06 Aug 2009, 7:08 am

Greentea wrote:
Acacia, I guess we'll have to activate for our rights without you.

I think you may have misunderstood my point.

Fortunately, it can be summed up in one line:
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I work to change what I can, but don't worry unduly about the things that remain out of my control

That's all.


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06 Aug 2009, 7:12 am

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2ukenkerl wrote:
Yeah, FRANKLY, minors(those under 18 and TECHNICALLY under 25 in this case) shouldn't talk about such things. They misrepresent, and really don't know what they are talking about. Children have about five things going for them:

1. They are in school, and such things are generally covered by the school.
2. They affect jobs that are generally union, so the unions will fight for them.
3. They are children, and people care more about kids.
4. If you are under 25, you are often covered under your PARENTS health insurance!! !! !

That's four things, not five...

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Just wait until he is 25+ and/or moves out, and has to do things HIMSELF! THEN he'll get it!

Wait, are you talking about me? :roll:


OK, I didn't change the number?

Yeah, I guess I thought you WERE in California, sorry. Supposedly, Sweden is socialized there, so it is not an issue. Still, I, for one, wouldn't want to abuse it.

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06 Aug 2009, 1:38 pm

Acacia, as I said, it's not a law of Nature. It's exploitation and it would continue if we didn't do something about it. We are working to change it, and we're doing it without you because you believe that you can't change it.


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07 Aug 2009, 2:51 am

Greentea wrote:
Acacia, as I said, it's not a law of Nature. It's exploitation and it would continue if we didn't do something about it. We are working to change it, and we're doing it without you because you believe that you can't change it.

I still feel profoundly misunderstood here. I never said that discrimination against AS people was a law of Nature. I never said I believe that I can't change it. I feel like my position within this conversation has been hijacked and taken to a place I did not wish it to go, so I politely remove myself from it. Greentea, I respect you a lot, and I value what you have to say, but I'm done with this particular discussion.


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