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ASMAN
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06 Dec 2004, 11:17 am

hale_bopp wrote:

My cat often looks at nothing, or just above people, and once followed apparently nothing right around the room with her eyes.

Once My oldest cat sam (9 yrs old) was with me in bed. Suddenly started to stare above me at the upper corner of the room! stood there for while appeared to be "following" it with his eyes. I turned to look and nothing there, But that did not break his stare as it normallt does. Damn cat creeped me out so much I went downstairs and slept on the couch!

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06 Dec 2004, 12:56 pm

hale_bopp wrote:

with a conflict of beliefs.

I was just wondering if anyone here had any supernatural experiences, or believes in it?

I personally strongly believe in Paranormal and supernatural. I think spirits walk this earth, and there is an afterlife.

I am interested to know what other people on this board think about the supernatural, and possible reasons.

Here are some interesting sites, you might wanna check out; www.near-death.com, www.out-of-body.com, www.doreenvirtue.com, www.spiritsource.org

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06 Dec 2004, 2:31 pm

Have I had Paranormal or Supernatural experiences. You Betcha! I'm just not sure what the causes were though. I believe there's an afterlife but do the deceased still roam the earth? I can't say for sure. Are there other spirits/beings besides those in earthly bodies? I think it's very possible. (I don't try to draw their attention.) I sometimes wonder if past, present and future are all playing out at the same time....maybe this is the "energy" some of us have seen. Energy can't be created or cannot be destroyed, it can change, though. I think of myself as "sensitive" to paranormal experiences but, I'd rather not be.

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06 Dec 2004, 4:24 pm

I've had some strange experiences, but I wouldn't classify them as "supernatural" because I believe they're natural events that we simply don't understand.

However I'm firmly convinced there is NO afterlife.

It's easy to prove. If our souls, ie "who we are" went on after death, then no matter what happens to our living brains "we" should still be who we are. I've witnessed the results 1st hand of what happens to someone as their physical brain is damaged. My father has had a series of strokes and he no longer is "himself". Little bits of his life come out in a more or less random fashion. It's like watching a computer program crash in slow motion as his brain slowly self-destructs. He no longer recognizes his own family, or takes an interest in anything.

If a few strokes and old age can cause that level of damage to a person's mind, then imagine what happens after the brain itself dies and decomposes.

There is no afterlife. I need to remember that more myself so I make the best of the one life I've got.

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06 Dec 2004, 7:33 pm

I have a question. Does anyone have any idea what the thing I sensed could have been if it was paranormal or supernatural?

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06 Dec 2004, 8:26 pm

Can you describe it more, ilikedragons? Did it give you a negative feeling or a positive feeling? Or was it neutral? What do you mean when you say you "sensed" it? Did you see something, hear something, smell something, feel something brush against you, or was it just a sort of "feeling" you got?

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06 Dec 2004, 8:33 pm

This is what I believe:

PLURALITAS NON EST PONENDA SINE NECESSITATE

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06 Dec 2004, 8:59 pm

magic wrote:

This is what I believe:

PLURALITAS NON EST PONENDA SINE NECESSITATE

Is that Latin or something? What does it mean?

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06 Dec 2004, 10:26 pm

Archmage wrote:

magic wrote:

This is what I believe:

PLURALITAS NON EST PONENDA SINE NECESSITATE

Is that Latin or something? What does it mean?

"Entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily"

and yes it is latin

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06 Dec 2004, 11:09 pm

It was just sort of the feeling something was walking around behind me. It's hard to explain, and I was to scared to bother to see if I could see whatever it was. I don't know if I was scared because something weird was happening or not.

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08 Dec 2004, 2:12 am

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I took a ghost hoax photograph like that once on a disposable camera.

I am aware that photographs can be easily forged. The photo may not be real, but if you mean animals don't have spirits, I disagree.

Cats have emotions and can sense people being happy/sad, they suffer from emotional torture.

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Here are some interesting sites, you might wanna check out;

Cheers, i'll check those out.

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It's easy to prove. If our souls, ie "who we are"

That's a rather generalised opinion of a soul. A soul may be a ball of energy that carries information from past lives, and leassons about life.

The brain controls the body. The body is a series of chemical reactions. If these then damaged, it will not function properley. I personally don't think a soul would remember large quanties of stored information, which is stored in the brain, a series of chemical reactions.

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08 Dec 2004, 9:53 am

Arashi wrote:

The spirit is unlimmited in itself, when it has left the body. The body is a kind of limitation, for you to grow. The brain might be damaged, but that doesn't mean, that the "self" isn't there. It just can't express itself nomore, 'cause the things it needs, to do that, is damaged. It's like you wanna use your arm, but if it's amputated, you cant. That doesn't mean that "you", who want your arm back, insn't there anymore. The body intervents the things, your spirit normally would be able to.

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08 Dec 2004, 10:55 am

[quote="hale_bopp]I am aware that photographs can be easily forged. The photo may not be real, but if you mean animals don't have spirits, I disagree.

Cats have emotions and can sense people being happy/sad, they suffer from emotional torture.

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What does emotions have to do with having a spirit?????

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08 Dec 2004, 1:41 pm

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If a few strokes and old age can cause that level of damage to a person's mind, then imagine what happens after the brain itself dies and decomposes.

This is my belief (I'm not trying to force my opinions or beliefs on anyone, I'm just stating my beliefs):

I believe we are made up of three separate parts that work as one.

I believe that the "mind" is a physical part of who we are. It dies and decomposes with our physical body.

I believe the "soul" is like the "little black box" of our being. It retains/records all of our experiences in this life.

I believe that we also have a spirit that is not concerned with the physical, material things of this world.

I believe that many things around us have this type of existence, too.
Even our perception of time is segmented into Past, Present and Future.

I also believe there is an afterlife.

My belief is not based on anything I can see. I suppose that's why I call it what I believe.

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08 Dec 2004, 2:35 pm

No I haven't seen anything supernatural, that couldn't also be explained through mundane means. I do feel spirits, energies, gnossis and all that jazz, but since it doesn't correlate even slightly with the other parts of reality, i.e. things that I can see, smell, touch, hear, or balance, things that I don't have to be involved in to implicate, then I can only conclude it's just one of those delusions, not even strong enough to convince me otherwise.

I am looking though! Finding magic is one of my fixations, and a sad one at that since it's pretty much doomed to fail.

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08 Dec 2004, 2:43 pm

What a lot of you are describing sounds like hallucinations. I have never seen any kind of spirits, UFOs, or other such nonsense.

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