Should great people be judged on their private lives?

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13 Jul 2010, 7:03 pm

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Should employers ask you if you've ever stolen anything, if you've never been caught? Should they be allowed to ask you questions like that, and judge you based on your answers? They do. And, it's not illegal.


I've never stolen anything, but surely nobody would say yes when asked this?

It would be different if they asked about criminal records; those can be verified.

But yes, of course, if someone is dumb enough to say "yeah, I stole a shop's worth of stationary at my last job" I would not hire them. That's not a 'personal' issue. It's a criminal one.



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13 Jul 2010, 7:05 pm

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Should employers ask you if you've ever stolen anything, if you've never been caught? Should they be allowed to ask you questions like that, and judge you based on your answers? They do. And, it's not illegal.


I've never stolen anything, but surely nobody would say yes when asked this?

It would be different if they asked about criminal records; those can be verified.

But yes, of course, if someone is dumb enough to say "yeah, I stole a shop's worth of stationary at my last job" I would not hire them.


You would be more likely to get a truthful answer if you simply asked if they've been ARRESTED for theft.


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13 Jul 2010, 7:08 pm

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That's the problem with the public arena. I still think, however, that some aspects of one's private life should be off limits to the public if the person involved does not want to discuss them. If you ask a film star if he is gay or if he has a girlfriend, and he does not want to answer, you should respect his wish. It is no one's business what people do in their private lives, especially in terms of intimacy.


I don't argue with that, but again, we as a society no longer have any standard of decency when it comes to what the media is allowed to ask, or print about a person's private life. There was a time when they knew certain things were off limits, but there are no limits now. Its a TMZ planet. Ask anything, Accuse anything, Insinuate anything, and if all else fails to elicit a shock, make stuff up.


This is definitely one major thing I hate about the media. They peek into private property and take boob shots of teens, and then make her out to be some slut. It's one of the many reasons I decided against going into my passion... acting. I would seriously have panic attacks if I had people invading my property to take pictures of me like that.


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13 Jul 2010, 7:10 pm

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Should employers ask you if you've ever stolen anything, if you've never been caught? Should they be allowed to ask you questions like that, and judge you based on your answers? They do. And, it's not illegal.


I've never stolen anything, but surely nobody would say yes when asked this?


And when "nobody" ever says yes, do you think they really believe it?

Wouldn't an answer of "yes" and an explanation demonstrate honesty?


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13 Jul 2010, 7:11 pm

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I've never stolen anything, but surely nobody would say yes when asked this?


Right. That's why they should not be asking questions like these or any other questions that verge into the "personal" arena, such as sexuality, political and religious views, whether you plan to get married/divorced or have children, etc.



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13 Jul 2010, 7:14 pm

I form judgements of people based on a lot of things - both personal and private. Yes, it is true that there are two sides to every story (someone referenced cheating not being an issue if the politician who cheated had not taken a "stance" on it, so to speak).
Honestly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My personal take on cheating is that it's wrong - either fix the relationship that your in or get out of it before you start another. Simple.
What I'm trying to say here is that everyone judges others based on their own personal standards to some extent - and yes, you can certainly still see the "good" that someone does outside of the behaviors/actions that you don't agree with. However, in my experience, every time that I find out something about that someone has done that I consider to be against my own morals, they loose "status" with me. For example - if one of my friends were caught stealing, I might still be friends with them (after all, they are a good friend, and haven't stolen anything of mine, right?), but I'd probably wonder or in my mind be thinking - "yeah, she hasn't stolen anything of mine......yet?".



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13 Jul 2010, 7:16 pm

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Should employers ask you if you've ever stolen anything, if you've never been caught? Should they be allowed to ask you questions like that, and judge you based on your answers? They do. And, it's not illegal.


I've never stolen anything, but surely nobody would say yes when asked this?


And when "nobody" ever says yes, do you think they really believe it?

Wouldn't an answer of "yes" and an explanation demonstrate honesty?


Yes, but I'm slowly learning that NT people don't want an honest answer when they ask certain things. Even when they do, they don't react well when it's not what they want to hear.


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13 Jul 2010, 7:20 pm

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Should employers ask you if you've ever stolen anything, if you've never been caught? Should they be allowed to ask you questions like that, and judge you based on your answers? They do. And, it's not illegal.


I've never stolen anything, but surely nobody would say yes when asked this?


And when "nobody" ever says yes, do you think they really believe it?

Wouldn't an answer of "yes" and an explanation demonstrate honesty?


It would want to be an exceedingly good explanation. And no, admission of guilt does not make you non-guilty and admitting dishonesty doesn't make you an honest individual.

Of course I don't believe that everyone who denies stealing is being honest either. The question is badly designed; a 'yes' answer would be tantamout to throwing the job opportunity away (for the majority of cases) and if they've bothered to show up for interview, it's a given that they want the job.



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13 Jul 2010, 7:21 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
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Should employers ask you if you've ever stolen anything, if you've never been caught? Should they be allowed to ask you questions like that, and judge you based on your answers? They do. And, it's not illegal.


I've never stolen anything, but surely nobody would say yes when asked this?


And when "nobody" ever says yes, do you think they really believe it?

Wouldn't an answer of "yes" and an explanation demonstrate honesty?


Yes, but I'm slowly learning that NT people don't want an honest answer when they ask certain things. Even when they do, they don't react well when it's not what they want to hear.


For the most part I think you're right. I've answered both ways on those tests though, and gotten the same results. I've played the stupid "game" and given them all the "right" answers, and been hired, but I've also given blatantly honest answers, and after being questioned on the "questionable" answers (which they use a stupid computer to identify, by the way), been hired as well.

It's almost as if they don't care whether you can just play the game or be honest. As long as you can do one or the other, you're hired. :roll:


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13 Jul 2010, 7:27 pm

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Should employers ask you if you've ever stolen anything, if you've never been caught? Should they be allowed to ask you questions like that, and judge you based on your answers? They do. And, it's not illegal.


I've never stolen anything, but surely nobody would say yes when asked this?


And when "nobody" ever says yes, do you think they really believe it?

Wouldn't an answer of "yes" and an explanation demonstrate honesty?


Yes, but I'm slowly learning that NT people don't want an honest answer when they ask certain things. Even when they do, they don't react well when it's not what they want to hear.


For the most part I think you're right. I've answered both ways on those tests though, and gotten the same results. I've played the stupid "game" and given them all the "right" answers, and been hired, but I've also given blatantly honest answers, and after being questioned on the "questionable" answers (which they use a stupid computer to identify, by the way), been hired as well.

It's almost as if they don't care whether you can just play the game or be honest. As long as you can do one or the other, you're hired. :roll:


People are weird.


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13 Jul 2010, 10:07 pm

I heard Martin Luther King Jr was into some really weird stuff. I do not want to believe it though. So, I'd like to view him on what he did and not what his personal life was about.


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