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20 Aug 2010, 6:18 am

She put him on the news to fight for shock treatment, better known as ECT?
ECT is contraindicated in pediatric patients and not indicated for the treatment of ASDs. ECT is indicated for the treatment of treatment-resistant depression (depression that has resisted 2 or more SSRIs). This lady is very ignorant. No psychiatrist would send the boy to get ECT performed anyways. Ridiculous.



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20 Aug 2010, 7:53 am

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But nostromo, your kid had three of them, not dozens or hundreds. I'm willing to bet that the first three are about as hard as the second thirty... After you get used to making sure the person doesn't hurt themselves during a seizure and know what to expect, I have the feeling it's not nearly as scary.

Plenty of people have epilepsy and do fine with it. Not fun and games, of course, but apparently not the end of the world either, especially when it's a stable condition and the seizures don't occur constantly.

I've been looking at her channel too... and it almost looks like she's using that guy as a circus exhibit or something. I haven't watched all the videos because I'm not a masochist, but even the one in this topic is... I dunno, there's just something wrong with videotaping your adult (teenage?) son in the shower. I don't care if he needs help in there; it's still a personal thing.

There is ONE positive video about her son. One. All of the others (forty-some) are about how horrible it is to have a kid with autism or how to "handle" his "behaviors". And the word "severe" is plastered all over the place... like she expects everybody to bow down to her for being some kind of a saint or something.

I keep wanting to say, y'know, woman, you're a mom. This is what you signed up for when you decided to become one. Not everybody gets a disabled kid, but if you aren't ready for a disabled kid, then you aren't ready for a kid, period.


Basically she feels the situation is not fair (it isn't really but it's the way it is) and is feeling sorry for herself. She posts the videos to have others acknowledge her so she feels better; she's stuck in that victim mode.
Thats my take on what's going on.
But I still feel sorry for them though, regardless of that. I think she needs some help getting her head sorted.



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20 Aug 2010, 9:49 am

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she reminds me of this edit form yahoo answer.

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Why am I expected to have a career while taking care of my autistic daughter?
I'm 38, single mom, my daughter is turning 18 this summer, she is Autistic, she will clearly never be independent, for the past 18 years I have dedicated my life to her improvement and ongoing help with her disability, my mom helps out when I go to work, I notice people always ask why I don't have a career, do people honestly think that I have time to go to school and get a degree? I mean come on, there just isn't time for that, what bugs me is that people can't recognize that the fact of having a child with a disability is enough and that sometimes, at least in my case and being a single mother, there is no way to manage a career. People make me feel inferior, instead of getting congratulated on how well I have managed raising a kid with Autism, instead I get the stupid question " So what do you do? Are you planning on going back to school? How come you have no degree?

What they should be saying is, "wow I give you heads up for such a great job on raising a child with special needs, it's a full time job"

I'm thinking on applying to be my daughters caregiver, then it would be a career and people would just leave me alone.
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my answer was: what do your 18 year old daughter have to do with you not having a career, autism is a spectrum,
disorder i hate parents that blame their failure on their kids with autism or other special needs
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i have autism
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To Monique I.J, You are so Ignorant, I'm not going to bother, people like you call and label themselves Autistic on any dumb learning flaw you might have. Educate yourself before you speak, If you can make those kind of statements your clearly not Autistic, my daughter has no sence of time, temperature, cuantity, safety, etc. It's a 24/7 job for the rest of my exsistance, If I work full time and take care of her when I'm off, how the heck am I supposed to have time for a career. Unless I leave her by herself at home and expose her to danger just to prove to id**ts like you that it's not a blame game, would that be better?
5 months ago


[b]my response back again:i said spectrum she could be high you did not say. come down and tes i know alot about autism more then you ( this is for askers)[/b]


notice how this mother thank if i can make those kind of statement I can't be autistic, :roll:



I think your response was insensitive and she is frustrated by the crap she gets from other people. I don't understand why lot of us make the parents the bad guys when they struggle because they also suffer from ignorance they get from other people. We act like parents of autistic kids aren't allowed to suffer because they can't get the education for their child or the help they need and the fact people also don't understand where they are coming from.

But her response was ignorant when she claimed you aren't autistic but I thought your response to hers was ignorant as well.



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20 Aug 2010, 9:52 am

League_Girl wrote:
MONIQUEIJ wrote:
she reminds me of this edit form yahoo answer.

Lena wrote
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Why am I expected to have a career while taking care of my autistic daughter?
I'm 38, single mom, my daughter is turning 18 this summer, she is Autistic, she will clearly never be independent, for the past 18 years I have dedicated my life to her improvement and ongoing help with her disability, my mom helps out when I go to work, I notice people always ask why I don't have a career, do people honestly think that I have time to go to school and get a degree? I mean come on, there just isn't time for that, what bugs me is that people can't recognize that the fact of having a child with a disability is enough and that sometimes, at least in my case and being a single mother, there is no way to manage a career. People make me feel inferior, instead of getting congratulated on how well I have managed raising a kid with Autism, instead I get the stupid question " So what do you do? Are you planning on going back to school? How come you have no degree?

What they should be saying is, "wow I give you heads up for such a great job on raising a child with special needs, it's a full time job"

I'm thinking on applying to be my daughters caregiver, then it would be a career and people would just leave me alone.
5 months ago




my answer was: what do your 18 year old daughter have to do with you not having a career, autism is a spectrum,
disorder i hate parents that blame their failure on their kids with autism or other special needs
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i have autism
5 months ago


lena response to me:
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To Monique I.J, You are so Ignorant, I'm not going to bother, people like you call and label themselves Autistic on any dumb learning flaw you might have. Educate yourself before you speak, If you can make those kind of statements your clearly not Autistic, my daughter has no sence of time, temperature, cuantity, safety, etc. It's a 24/7 job for the rest of my exsistance, If I work full time and take care of her when I'm off, how the heck am I supposed to have time for a career. Unless I leave her by herself at home and expose her to danger just to prove to id**ts like you that it's not a blame game, would that be better?
5 months ago


[b]my response back again:i said spectrum she could be high you did not say. come down and tes i know alot about autism more then you ( this is for askers)[/b]


notice how this mother thank if i can make those kind of statement I can't be autistic, :roll:



I think your response was insensitive and she is frustrated by the crap she gets from other people. I don't understand why lot of us make the parents the bad guys when they struggle because they also suffer from ignorance they get from other people. We act like parents of autistic kids aren't allowed to suffer because they can't get the education for their child or the help they need and the fact people also don't understand where they are coming from.

But her response was ignorant when she claimed you aren't autistic but I thought your response to hers was ignorant as well.


fair enough :oops:


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20 Aug 2010, 11:18 am

Yes, that *is* a good point: Parents of autistics, and families who are caretakers for disabled people in general, aren't supported nearly enough. They often have to advocate pretty hard to get the assistance they need; and in some cases they may never be able to get it. This problem isn't exclusive to those with kids who need full-time care, though; finding a responsible aide can be very frustrating (or so I have heard, as I've never had to hire one myself but have talked to people who have)... On the other hand, so can trying to convince people that your child needs assistance at school when said child is highly verbal but under severe stress because she doesn't know what's coming up in the school day and nobody makes her a schedule she can read.

It's usually plain that a kid needs help when he's fifteen and not talking; but if he's talking and doing okay in school, he can fall through the cracks just as easily because he's assumed to be "doing fine" and not given the help he needs until he shuts down completely--and he's in just as much distress as if he were very disabled and stuck with an incompetent aide or with a mom so stressed out she had no time to spare to relax.

The entire spectrum has the problem of not being able to access appropriate support services. We can help each other with this. Kids with "mild" autism getting services don't take services away from kids with "severe" autism. For one thing, they often need completely different things. For another, the more kids with autism are in their school systems and in their homes getting the assistance they need, the more the schools and the medical profession will know that they need help and their families need support--all along the spectrum. And the more the need is made known, the more people will be drawn to that field. People want jobs, simple as that. Plus, when you support autistics, you're not just giving them care they need now; you're also helping them learn more independence for later on. The more you help, the less help we need.

Even respite care isn't an exclusively "LFA" thing. Parents of Aspies need relief, too; my mom nearly had a nervous breakdown when I was a toddler because I didn't know how to inhibit myself and had multiple meltdowns a day--and remember, this is a mom who's also either autistic or so close it doesn't matter, with the associated sensory sensitivity. With that on top of the normal toddler tantrums, it was a recipe for one frazzled mom. Could she have used respite care? Oh, yes. But she hadn't any because I wasn't diagnosed, and she had six years of very little sleep instead. She still mentions it sometimes, though she's forgiven me.

Cutting the spectrum down some arbitrary "Not Like My Child" boundary wouldn't help anybody. We need to stick together and advocate for each other, and for each others' kids. Every time anybody, with any kind of autism, wins a victory, it's a victory for us all.


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20 Aug 2010, 11:27 am

She said that the people of Wrongplanet are a bunch of hypochondriacs and made accusations of the members being sociopaths who were manipulating doctors into getting them a diagnosis of aspergers for ome bizarre reason. What a horrible thing to say about people!



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20 Aug 2010, 11:31 am

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She said that the people of Wrongplanet are a bunch of hypochondriacs and made accusations of the members being sociopaths who were manipulating doctors into getting them a diagnosis of aspergers for ome bizarre reason. What a horrible thing to say about people!


sure is :roll: @ that crazy bi#ch.


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20 Aug 2010, 11:31 am

I think maybe we shouldn't be hateful about this; it seems like she has just gotten herself so worked into a mental corner and isn't seeing straight, that when anybody disagrees with her she takes it as though the person were threatening her and her family. Think of all the Aspies who are bitter because they've been bullied for years by NTs... she has probably faced prejudice against her son, herself, and dealt with it in all the wrong ways, that she can't help but get angry instead of thinking. It's like when one of my cats is so frightened of a thunderstorm that he doesn't recognize that I'm his friend and claws me out of fear that the whole world is out to hurt him.


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20 Aug 2010, 12:00 pm

What? You mean [some YouTube commenter] said [some trolly comment]? LET'S GO MAD! :roll:

But, seriously, in case you hadn't noticed, YouTube commenters are utter idiots. There's no point paying any sort of attention to them at all.

To prove the point, here are some other YouTube comments I found:

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@trooper660 wrong, u are a fag!! I'm sure you're so f*****g ugly, that's why u hate justin Bieber!! Ok, now I'm done!! BYE! PEACE OUT!!

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@RRMoulton1 hah, that's so funny!! and NO, I don't copy/past this to every video thats not Justin Bieber ! ! and stop calling me a fa***t, u dont even know me so STFU! it's not bcz U ARE A fa***t that everyone should be! hah

so BYEEE!! LOVE LOVE LOVE! PEACE OUT!! !


Yes, those are genuine.



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20 Aug 2010, 12:57 pm

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20 Aug 2010, 3:52 pm

DW, I wouldn't know for sure, but when "shock therapy" comes up re: autism, it's generally NOT ECT (electroconvulsive therapy, a painless shock delivered under sedation meant to snap someone out of depression); instead, "shock therapy" in this context usually refers to using an electric shock for the purpose of causing pain to "teach" an autistic not to perform various behaviors. Look up the Judge Rotenberg Center. Entirely different issue.


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20 Aug 2010, 4:17 pm

Regarding seizures, yes they usually become less scary with time unless the person goes into status epileptics or other life threatening situations. I got to a point where I was having atonic seizures every few minutes or seconds. (Where you lose all muscle tone at once and hit the floor at an astonishing rate, but don't convulse.) And honestly the way my family and I felt was more on the level of aggravating nuisance (especially the bruises and rug burns and scrapes) than scary. Because once you know what it is it becomes a logistical problem more than anything.

Regarding hate, I don't hate this woman or anyone else on the planet. But I do hold her responsible for the consequences of her actions, and taken collectively with others like her the consequences for autistic people are dire. Past a point a person is responsible for the effects of their words and actions even if they experience pressures that drive them to it. Lots and lots of parents face similar pressures and only a tiny minority become hateful and destructive. And that minority is not consisting of parents of children with more severe impairments overall. Many of them have children who by most standards have milder impairments than many people here, but in order to justify themselves pretend otherwise. And pressure or no pressure attitudes like hers result in terrible things. I don't hate her but I will never let people like her off the hook either. Not while I watch the destruction they contribute to.


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20 Aug 2010, 11:56 pm

Oh jeez electroshocks meant to discipline someone with an ASD.. are we living in the Nazi era?



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09 Feb 2012, 5:40 pm

ASPERGERS is ASPERGERS. AUTISM is should be for those individuals for Severe and Low Functioning ONLY. BUT, it seems anyone can now get slapped with the label for not being able to 'socialize or keep employment'. GAH ! ! It's a god damn f,ing joke and an insult to parents who have children who will never be mainstreamed, graduate, get married, drive a car as all you Aspies can do. It's not fair that just ANYONE can call themselves "Autistic" now.
This is so sad, especially on Facebook. I type in search for severe and low functioning pages or groups, and these people have GIVEN UP on thier group, because the Aspies take over like they UNDERSTAND ???? LOL
The DSM needs to change. NOW. Aspergers is exactly what it called. "ASPERGERS". If they have their own name, then why the bloody hell can't they have their own "SPECTRUM" ???
AUTISM is not sitting on a computer all day long typing BIG words with such intelligence. Give me a break ! !! !!
Aspies will go on and on and on about "employment" and boo hoo i cant get a job and keep it??? Well here's a tip Aspies.... Get of the DAMN computer for a start.

Kgaccount is 100% spot on in her comments. I am here to support her now. You have all met your match because something needs to be done about these Bipolar or whatever people getting an Autism/Aspergers label. Misdiagnosis is why the Autism statistics are through the roof ! !! !! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work that one out ! :P



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09 Feb 2012, 5:48 pm

I wonder how this woman feels about AS being merged to autism?



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09 Feb 2012, 6:14 pm

About a year and a half ago I exchanged a couple of messages with this woman. She's actually not a bad person at all. Just a little bit misguided.

As I see it, she's unfortunately fallen prey to a mentality that some even here on WP sometimes fall prey to. This includes myself by the way.

It's that, "If things aren't as bad for you as they are for me, you don't have a problem" syndrome.

She does believe Autism is a spectrum. She does believe that AS is real. But that isn't where the problem lies.

She also believes that the vast majority of higher functioning diagnoses are just plain dead wrong. Sadly, she thinks she knows far more than she really does, solely because she has a son with severe Autism.

Probably needless to say, but I managed to close communication with her on a civil, if not friendly note. I feel very badly for her. She has a much tougher life with her son than I am certain most of us could possibly imagine.

I do not though, feel that is an excuse to spread her bitterness our way by insisting that practically none of us has real problems. That is, of course, pure BS.


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