Knowing about Asperger's Damaging or Helpful?

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08 Jan 2011, 4:50 pm

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Very helpful.
Now I know why, after all those years of flailing around without understanding or hope.

It's like I've only ever had one piece of a jigsaw - and now I've been given all the other bits too.
I'm still putting it together, but it's so much easier when nothing is missing.
(turns out that the jigsaw is a picture of me - real me; much better than who I thought I was)


I love the way you put that.

:oops: Aww, shucks...
Thanks! :D


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08 Jan 2011, 6:19 pm

I'm in the 'helpful' camp. I always knew I wasn't normal, so that part was no surprise. It was just kind of freeing to know WHY I was the way I am. I did go through a period where it did get me down to realize that certain things were never going to change, but I already kinda knew that anyway. So the knowledge has had both positive and negative effects, but overall I'm glad to know. I have wondered how it would have affected me to have been diagnosed younger, but I don't know if it would have helped a lot, given me an excuse for not trying, or had no effect at all. I guess it all happened the way it was supposed to happen.


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08 Jan 2011, 7:11 pm

Hmmm.... I guess people disagree with what I said mainly.

I think my main problem is my interest in Asperger's could be seen as creepy too, especially if it turns out I was really wrong about being on the spectrum. I do have a friend in real life that cares a lot about autism and wears awareness shirts and stuff even though she's not on the spectrum, but she's a substitute teacher for special needs kids and it makes more sense.

I'm even obsessed with the Aspie Quiz, why do I want to take that test so much 8O Especially since I get similar results, I'm barely below the Aspie/NT cutoff.


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08 Jan 2011, 7:29 pm

I found learning about it to be immensely helpful. Suddenly almost every single thing I had ever struggled with made sense, and all of it all at once with a single word. It answered the question I'd been asking my entire life: "What's wrong with me?" And it made the answer: "Nothing. Nothing is wrong with you. You were just born a little different." It gave me the framework needed to simultaneously allow me to accept who I am and to work with that knowledge to improve myself and work on my persistent difficulties. It's much easier to face a problem when you know what the problem is.

Knowing about Asperger's/autism also helped me by teaching me problems I didn't even realize I had, and by teaching me more about other people. I didn't know that most people were better able to judge such things as what others think of or feel towards them (theory of mind), for example, which taught me a lot about both myself and others. It taught me that I can be naive, and that gives me the ability to protect myself. It helped me understand what it is that others find awkward about me and why they called me "eccentric" or "weird" when I hadn't understood before, and why hearing a vacuum cleaner made me want to cry out and cover my ears.

I could go on, but I've probably gone on more than enough already.


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08 Jan 2011, 7:34 pm

I only about a week ago really looked into aspergers (my mom always knew i had it but I thought it was like add, and i just wanted to be normal so I stayed away from learning about it).

But when i really learned about what it is. I started to tear up. It was amazing, it explained everything about my personality and why I have such a problem with social situations. I am so happy to know what I have. I don't hate myself anymore for not being able to fit in. So I am very thankful to know about this. And I am really thankful for Wrong Planet and being able to talk to people who have the same issues as me.



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08 Jan 2011, 7:35 pm

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I could go on, but I've probably gone on more than enough already.

:lol: But I'm pleased you did anyway, and I thought you explained it very nicely.


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08 Jan 2011, 10:17 pm

I like it. Assuming I'm right in my self-diagnosis, it explains why I do what I do. And I like things to have rational reasons. I like what I do and I like the way I am. The reason why I behave in certain ways has no bearing on my opinion of my behavior. For context, Einstein's brain was abnormal. So being abnormal can be just fine.



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08 Jan 2011, 10:36 pm

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Really helpful. The last 50 years suddenly started making sense.


Yeah. This.


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08 Jan 2011, 10:42 pm

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Hmmm.... I guess people disagree with what I said mainly.

I think my main problem is my interest in Asperger's could be seen as creepy too, especially if it turns out I was really wrong about being on the spectrum. I do have a friend in real life that cares a lot about autism and wears awareness shirts and stuff even though she's not on the spectrum, but she's a substitute teacher for special needs kids and it makes more sense.

I'm even obsessed with the Aspie Quiz, why do I want to take that test so much 8O Especially since I get similar results, I'm barely below the Aspie/NT cutoff.


Maybe not as much as you think. There is a great deal of angst in the process of discovering ones aspiness. You may just be at an earlier stage. There are often elements of denial, frustration and doubt along the way. Seems you may be in one of those phases.


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09 Jan 2011, 2:10 am

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Does the mere knowledge of Asperger's damage or help your mental state and your life?

Basically before I heard about Asperger's, I was relatively happy with certain behaviors I had, most notably focusing for hours at a time on birds and Sonic the Hedgehog. I also thought I was socially interacting okay, though I didn't do it often.

Then I learned about Asperger's. Now such behaviors seem abnormal. I want to stop them. But along the way, I have become obsessed with mental health and Asperger's. Nowadays, I want to study birds more, but I get antsy and want to go back to the mental health site I go to a lot, or to read Wrong Planet. Also after asking people, my social life is indeed abnormal.

I can't stop wondering if I really have it. I have other things and I mostly don't focus on those.

I just want to be back to the state I was in earlier. I'm a unstable isotope that doesn't want to throw off a particle or two and return to a stable state, lol.


Like you, I jump between the states of aye or nay of having the condition, but I do believe I'm mild and just inside the Asperger bubble.

And like you, my laser focus or "obsessions," seemed "great." After hearing enough as to how abnormal they are, as in occupying time for one, and even knowing myself at times that it borders on an unhealthy side; 'kinda killed' something within myself knowing that this is classed as "pathological".

I do believe in at least" knowing" I probably have a mild condition; saved me from future potential mental collapse, as I've been near this edge in the past.



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09 Jan 2011, 2:32 am

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I could go on, but I've probably gone on more than enough already.

:lol: But I'm pleased you did anyway, and I thought you explained it very nicely.


Haha, thanks. ^_^; I appreciated your explanation as well--a good analogy.


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09 Jan 2011, 4:00 pm

Angnix wrote:
Does the mere knowledge of Asperger's damage or help your mental state and your life?

Basically before I heard about Asperger's, I was relatively happy with certain behaviors I had, most notably focusing for hours at a time on birds and Sonic the Hedgehog. I also thought I was socially interacting okay, though I didn't do it often.

Then I learned about Asperger's. Now such behaviors seem abnormal. I want to stop them. But along the way, I have become obsessed with mental health and Asperger's. Nowadays, I want to study birds more, but I get antsy and want to go back to the mental health site I go to a lot, or to read Wrong Planet. Also after asking people, my social life is indeed abnormal.

I can't stop wondering if I really have it. I have other things and I mostly don't focus on those.

I should leave it up to the mental health experts, but even they confuse me. Currently, my therapist thinks I have it, while I haven't discussed it with my psychiatrist.

I just want to be back to the state I was in earlier. I'm a unstable isotope that doesn't want to throw off a particle or two and return to a stable state, lol.


WOW, you must not be that bad off. I was different and people let me know about it. I just act a bit differently, think a bit differently, and SOCIALLY? Well, let's just say that even my SCHOOL called it to my parents attention. Anyway, THAT and the skewing of my senses were obvious to me. When I found out about AS, I thought "WOW, there are OTHERS that are like I am!"! Frankly, I get by. My only real problem really is social, and trying to live with the sensory extremes..



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09 Jan 2011, 4:12 pm

Perhaps if I had known about having mild AS I might have been able to avoid the terrible conflicts that occurred in the last 10 years when I was a member of two different social groups. But as it is I feel like I found out too late (even though the possibility had occurred to me years ago, I couldn't find any help for it so I just dismissed it). I am now afraid to try to join other groups, both because what happened was so awful, but also because knowing I have AS seems to me to make the likelihood that I will succeed in getting along with others very low if not nil. So I am less likely to try again.

Mostly, it has made me feel more hopeless, because now I know it's not just a matter of trying harder.



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09 Jan 2011, 4:25 pm

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I'm even obsessed with the Aspie Quiz, why do I want to take that test so much 8O Especially since I get similar results, I'm barely below the Aspie/NT cutoff.


What is your score? Simon Baron-Cohen recommended that anyone who scores 26 or above after suggesting they might have AS be screened further.

I was unaware that there was an actual cutoff. 80% of those on the spectrum who took the quiz scored 32+, but those other 20% had to score somewhere, right?



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09 Jan 2011, 4:46 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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I'm even obsessed with the Aspie Quiz, why do I want to take that test so much 8O Especially since I get similar results, I'm barely below the Aspie/NT cutoff.


What is your score? Simon Baron-Cohen recommended that anyone who scores 26 or above after suggesting they might have AS be screened further.

I was unaware that there was an actual cutoff. 80% of those on the spectrum who took the quiz scored 32+, but those other 20% had to score somewhere, right?


I'm talking about the Aspie Quiz by rdos.
AQ is what you are talking about, I usually get like 31, when the cutoff is 32.


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09 Jan 2011, 4:50 pm

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WOW, you must not be that bad off. I was different and people let me know about it. I just act a bit differently, think a bit differently, and SOCIALLY? Well, let's just say that even my SCHOOL called it to my parents attention. Anyway, THAT and the skewing of my senses were obvious to me. When I found out about AS, I thought "WOW, there are OTHERS that are like I am!"! Frankly, I get by. My only real problem really is social, and trying to live with the sensory extremes..


You should read my school reports from when I was a kid. The tantrums or meltdowns or whatever they were occurred almost everyday and were disabling and put me in special ed. My social skills were so bad, they gave me special therapy. I had to have an aide follow me around to stop the meltdowns and to try to teach me social skills. I've just improved a lot.


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