Page 2 of 4 [ 54 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Verdandi
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Dec 2010
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 12,275
Location: University of California Sunnydale (fictional location - Real location Olympia, WA)

22 Feb 2011, 3:37 pm

Digsy wrote:
Yes I do hate people, until I forgive them for whatever they've done that made me hate them.
Then I can no longer hate them.
I'm in agreement with the philosophy that hate breeds hate, love breeds love.


I'm not so sure about that. I think love and hate can exist in the same person, they don't cancel each other out or overwhelm each other, they are emotions typically directed at different people (I don't recall ever loving and hating the same person at the same time).

I also do not think that hate necessarily means you will build more hate. I think that some people find it easier to hate than others, but I do not think it is necessarily because they hate.

Not that I would encourage anyone to hate, especially indiscriminately. But I do not assume that if someone hates a specific person that it is necessarily unhealthy for them to do so, that it necessarily costs them energy to do so, or that it has anything to do with any of their other relationships.

There are certain kinds of hatred that are red flags for me (for example, "splitting" is a huge red flag for me - my ex did it, someone I know online who abused/bullied several of my friends did it. Another example is bigotry, which itself has no rational or logical purpose. The third would be derived from fundamental attribution errors).

But I believe for some people it is a coping mechanism that places distance between them and others who have been harmful (that would be me). Not that I spend any time at all every day fuming about them, but my feelings for them inform any potential future interactions.



Digsy
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 18 Feb 2011
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 81

22 Feb 2011, 3:49 pm

I must have misled you.

I don't mean I hate and love people simultaneously.
What I meant is that if someone does something to make me hate them (which must have been something pretty bad).
Then I will hate them until I learn to forgive them for whatever it is they did to make me hate them to start with (I.E. I got over it).
And then I forgive them.
If I've forgiven someone, I can no longer hate them.
I might still dislike them, but hate for me is a really strong word backed by seriously strong emotions.

If the thread title means, do I dislike anybody, then I'd answer yeah pretty much everybody except my little tribe and the odd few.



j0sh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Nov 2008
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,191
Location: Tampa, Florida

22 Feb 2011, 5:06 pm

Nah. I'm not a big fan of many, but I don't actually hate anyone.



IdahoRose
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 19,801
Location: The Gem State

22 Feb 2011, 5:21 pm

I don't wish pain, suffering or death on anyone, but there are people in my life with whom I have an axe to grind; people whose mere presence is enough to trigger a meltdown if I'm having a bad day. Sadly many of such people are members of my own family, such as one of my older sisters and one of my uncles.



simon_says
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jan 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,075

22 Feb 2011, 5:29 pm

I can't think of anyone at the moment. But in the past I have.



SeizeTheDay
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 684
Location: 'Adrift In a World of My Own'

22 Feb 2011, 5:35 pm

I won't say her name, for my own protection, but I will say that she is the most powerful black woman in the world.


_________________
(I'm a Girl... ;) )

"The person who knows everything has a lot to learn."

"Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum" (I doubt, therefore I think, therefore I am) René Descartes


Xeno
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jun 2010
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 828

22 Feb 2011, 6:38 pm

I used to truly hate some people. Now I try not to bother with hatred. If I find someone to be worthless, it's better to just NOT CARE ABOUT THEM, because anything else is a waste of energy. I don't have to hate my enemies, but I have no obligation to love them either.



Verdandi
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Dec 2010
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 12,275
Location: University of California Sunnydale (fictional location - Real location Olympia, WA)

22 Feb 2011, 6:44 pm

Digsy wrote:
I must have misled you.

I don't mean I hate and love people simultaneously.


I misled you. That was an aside - I was saying I have no idea what would happen if I loved and hated someone at the same time, if it's even possible. It was tangental and irrelevant, sorry about that.



CockneyRebel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 118,420
Location: In my little Olympic World of peace and love

22 Feb 2011, 7:46 pm

I don't hate anybody. It's a waste of time and energy to hate people.


_________________
The Family Enigma


Cornflake
Administrator
Administrator

User avatar

Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 70,676
Location: Over there

22 Feb 2011, 9:11 pm

I really can't be bothered with it - far too much work involved in maintaining & feeding a hatred of someone.
People really annoy me sometimes but my worst is a shouty outburst and then sulky for a while.
It passes.


_________________
Giraffe: a ruminant with a view.


FTM
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 16 May 2009
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 231
Location: Portsmouth, England.

22 Feb 2011, 10:32 pm

Only the ex-wife, because of some of the things she did to me. I wouldn't wish her dead I'd rather she suffered. Reep what you sow etc.



auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 114,798
Location: the island of defective toy santas

22 Feb 2011, 10:33 pm

what i would do on a bully's grave wouldn't pass for flowers.



ocdgirl123
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2010
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,809
Location: Canada

22 Feb 2011, 10:51 pm

Not hate like you described, but there are people that if I could choose to never see them again, ever. I would be perfectly OK with that. I don't wish these people would die or anything though, I just don't ever want to see them again. The only time I really "hate" anyone is when I am upset at them, but that lasts momentarily.

So, there are people I dislike and don't get along with very well, but no one I actually HATE.

I really don't like the idea of hate, it's such a strong word. I do think that it's reasonable to think that you aren't going to become best friends with everyone you meet, or even think the person is "just OK", but I don't think you should be wishing pain on people.


_________________
-Allie

Canadian, young adult, student demisexual-heteroromantic, cisgender female, autistic


Verdandi
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Dec 2010
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 12,275
Location: University of California Sunnydale (fictional location - Real location Olympia, WA)

22 Feb 2011, 11:06 pm

Does hate really mean wishing pain? To me it simply means extreme antipathy.

When I say I hate my abusers, I do not mean "I hope they suffer great pain and die horrible deaths." I mean a very deep, emotional dislike (thank you wikipedia). I don't ever want to be around them, see them, hear from them, talk to them, or have them try to acknowledge my existence. If we ever meet face to face again I will do my best to avoid and not interact with them.



donnie_darko
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,981

23 Feb 2011, 2:03 am

SeizeTheDay wrote:
I won't say her name, for my own protection, but I will say that she is the most powerful black woman in the world.


Why do you hate Oprah?



BraveMurderDay
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 251
Location: St. Paul

23 Feb 2011, 2:10 am

I dislike most people, sometimes with hateful feelings but I'm with those who don't wish suffering. There isn't any person who has ever existed I would wish suffering upon.