TRUTHFULLY: Are we the autistic doomed?

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05 Jun 2011, 12:18 pm

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I'm not doomed!

All you do is adapt your Aspergers means you adapt your tactics and starategies to exploit your strengths and minimise your weakness!

Christ, cheer up and fight back!


are you a troll, your username is condesending


Condescending to whom? I find your use of the term "panic" to be insulting as you imply that Aspies are cowards who are prone to panic. In my case I have served my country in four war zones and definately do not have a propensity to panic.



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05 Jun 2011, 12:31 pm

Nothing wrong with being proud of being Aspie. Thinking you're superior to NTs, there's something wrong with that; but not with being proud of who you are. Disability pride can be a foreign concept to people who haven't encountered it before, but I assure you it's perfectly rational.


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05 Jun 2011, 12:33 pm

Callista wrote:
Nothing wrong with being proud of being Aspie. Thinking you're superior to NTs, there's something wrong with that; but not with being proud of who you are. Disability pride can be a foreign concept to people who haven't encountered it before, but I assure you it's perfectly rational.


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05 Jun 2011, 12:37 pm

I don't feel that I'm doomed at all. I feel free to do what I want. I'm not doomed. I don't suffer, either.


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05 Jun 2011, 12:54 pm

I am doomed because I cannot just up and get over all the negatives in my life...



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05 Jun 2011, 12:55 pm

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because different means extinction in this day and age in society,


The cro-magnon man was different from the neanderthal who was here first. The cro-magnon were better suited for survival in the new environment they flurished while the neanderthal died out they were developed for survival in the old environment. There are more and more Aspies everyday. The new environment we face now is a technological one an environment better suited for the Aspie. :wink: 8)


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05 Jun 2011, 1:18 pm

Todesking wrote:
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because different means extinction in this day and age in society,


The cro-magnon man was different from the neanderthal who was here first. The cro-magnon were better suited for survival in the new environment they flurished while the neanderthal died out they were developed for survival in the old environment. There are more and more Aspies everyday. The new environment we face now is a technological one an environment better suited for the Aspie. :wink: 8)


Quite right!



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05 Jun 2011, 7:21 pm

Autistics may not be doomed but face a long uphill battle due to discrimination in the work place. My former boss is absolutely convinced that autistics can not operate computers due to their bad memories. My boss feels that if an autistic cannot do a simple job then they cannot possibly handle a job with increased responsibility.

Bosses love to punish autistics collectively. For example my coworker is an alcoholic and shows up at work 30 minutes late. Although the alcoholic got sent home I was also punished by having my work hours reduced even though I was on time. At work my bosses constantly tell me that I am too slow and that I goof off all of the time. To prove these bosses wrong I started cranking up the production. Now my Boss complains that I am using up too much material.

For an autistic it is always a no win situation at work. I am always attacked and I am always abused. I thought I had one thing going for me because I can always pass a drug test. But now the bosses accuse me of cheating on that drug test. The bosses yell at me and accuse me of wasting company time because it takes time to produce a urine sample. So I decided to drink lots of water so I wouldn't waste time and now I am accused of dilluting the urine sample. One boss bragged about his methamphetamine use and then he fired me and sent my Union a letter of condemnation demanding that they confiscate my Journeman's certificate for being too slow. When my Union representative got a hold of that letter he then had a field day and pounced on me because he was absolutely convinced that I was not a Journeman even though I am certified by the State of California.



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05 Jun 2011, 7:25 pm

Pretty much. I look forward to my eternal damnation. I need somewhere to warm my hands.

I think the younger generation will have a batter chance than us gen x's/y'ers. Even before that. But most people from that era have worked. I'll probably never get a job and live with my mum forever. I'm neither happy or sad about that. It's just he way it is.


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05 Jun 2011, 7:32 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOMED!

I think I'll go with being doomed because 'doom' is such an awesome word. It was also a good computer game at the time it came out.

Other than those factors, nah I don't think we're doomed.


It's still a good computer game.



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06 Jun 2011, 8:41 am

We're not doomed just 'cos we're autistic, it's actually the rest of the planet that would be doomed without people with ASD's.

If you want proof you just need to look at some of the greatest autistic minds out there to see how good this world has become thanks to them

Bill Gates - Without him there would be no Microsoft, no Internet Explorer, we'd probably be still trying to use computers based on Unix (although wouldn't surprise me if even the Unix developers probably mainly all had Asperger's - who else could manage to shorten the English language down to two/three letters at a time like vi, rm, rd and then have the intelligence to remember the difference between rd /*.* and rm /*.* (one will wipe every single drive mounted on your Unix machine, whilst the other will just wipe out files in the root ;))

Albert Einstein - Not diagnosed with AS, however pretty damn sure he did have it, had some of the other tell tale signs like Dyslexia, and high intelligence. So without him - no theory of relativity, etc.

John Lennon - Again same as Albert Einstein, not dx'ed but pretty certain - again had dyslexia, and left handed - without him we would have no Beatles, no 60's peace love and unity era, the Volkswagen campervan probably would have never been a big hit, Yoko Ono Lennon would still be a nobody. Liverpool would never have become as world famous for music acts as it has, Pirate radio would never have been born (to fight the rubbish that BBC and politicians were restricting everyone to). No Imagine song

Jim Henson - No muppets - can you imagine the world with no muppets and no sesame street.

So I think it's more that this world would be doomed if people with Asperger's weren't around more than the other way.



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06 Jun 2011, 9:41 am

Society has to be careful in marginalising minorities. exclude them too much and they may re-group and attack the main culture. So I'd say we're as safe as anybody from doom. Not that that's saying much.



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06 Jun 2011, 10:21 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
Society has to be careful in marginalising minorities. exclude them too much and they may re-group and attack the main culture. So I'd say we're as safe as anybody from doom. Not that that's saying much.


Especially considering that our attack vectors would target the information infrastructure of the contemporary economy. There's enough of us aspies that know how to do that that we should be feared ...


Bwahahahahaha

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06 Jun 2011, 11:05 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
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Society has to be careful in marginalising minorities. exclude them too much and they may re-group and attack the main culture. So I'd say we're as safe as anybody from doom. Not that that's saying much.


Especially considering that our attack vectors would target the information infrastructure of the contemporary economy. There's enough of us aspies that know how to do that that we should be feared ...


Bwahahahahaha

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06 Jun 2011, 12:10 pm

TheKLF99 wrote:
We're not doomed just 'cos we're autistic, it's actually the rest of the planet that would be doomed without people with ASD's.

If you want proof you just need to look at some of the greatest autistic minds out there to see how good this world has become thanks to them

Bill Gates - Without him there would be no Microsoft, no Internet Explorer, we'd probably be still trying to use computers based on Unix (although wouldn't surprise me if even the Unix developers probably mainly all had Asperger's - who else could manage to shorten the English language down to two/three letters at a time like vi, rm, rd and then have the intelligence to remember the difference between rd /*.* and rm /*.* (one will wipe every single drive mounted on your Unix machine, whilst the other will just wipe out files in the root ;))

Albert Einstein - Not diagnosed with AS, however pretty damn sure he did have it, had some of the other tell tale signs like Dyslexia, and high intelligence. So without him - no theory of relativity, etc.

John Lennon - Again same as Albert Einstein, not dx'ed but pretty certain - again had dyslexia, and left handed - without him we would have no Beatles, no 60's peace love and unity era, the Volkswagen campervan probably would have never been a big hit, Yoko Ono Lennon would still be a nobody. Liverpool would never have become as world famous for music acts as it has, Pirate radio would never have been born (to fight the rubbish that BBC and politicians were restricting everyone to). No Imagine song

Jim Henson - No muppets - can you imagine the world with no muppets and no sesame street.

So I think it's more that this world would be doomed if people with Asperger's weren't around more than the other way.


1. Just because some people with Asperger's have dyslexia does not mean that all people with dyslexia have Asperger's.
2. Wait, Jim Henson had Asperger's? Proof plz.


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06 Jun 2011, 12:40 pm

There is NO PROOF that Einstein, Lennon or Gates have AS. None of these people profess autism.

Autistics really are quite doomed in the sense that the odds are stacked largely against us in this world. We have to work really hard against these odds in order to succeed. Not impossible but sometimes improbable.