Aspie House for Independant Living and Group Support

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18 Aug 2006, 6:20 pm

i mean it sounds like you already know what to do, (from my point of view) a little about myself: i just have a real hard time trying to get a place to stay. ive been through all the (system) of trying to deal with my AS, it just seems like having a stable place to stay that i could call my own and to make friends seems a little out of reach right now. i kindof feel like im disabled, but not "disabled enough" to get help with housing. section8 housing usually has a year or more on there waiting lists, and they usually give those suckers away to familys first. and i already have an application in to them. but i doubt if in the next year there gonna give me a call and say; alright we got an apartment for you. so i think what your doing is a great idea, and if it falls through i am interested. :)



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19 Aug 2006, 4:08 pm

Hi, I am very interested in your idea. I am 22 and I am positively dying to get out my parents' house, as is clearly evidenced from previous posts, especially my one entitled "Medication and family histrionics" or something to that degree.
I have 3.5 years of college behind me, my parents said they would be willing to help me with rent, I was just starting to look for an apt or a room to rent.

I have heard many people suggest this idea before but not one person who has property to rent. This could be an Aspie utopia. I do not think you need any liscence, you are just renting rooms out to people. Is there any financial incentive to making it a group home? That is the only reason you would want to do so I think.

The most important attribute to me about a place to live is A) quiet and considerate housemates, and B) can get places. I cant drive. Is there any public transportation in your town? I live in Maine. There isn't any where I live. It sounds like ya can walk to more places in your town than I can but I'd need a way to get to a bigger town to do something with my time like volunteer somewhere or maybe get a job if I could. What is the area you live in like? What bigger town is it near? Would there be a way of doing a carpool of Aspies who lived there?

This could be an Aspie utopia- people who understood us - connections with people- supportive environment- kudos to you for this. Please get in touch with me if you would like to discuss this more, kgoldfie@gmail.com

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19 Aug 2006, 4:33 pm

Sounds like a great idea Summer. Ones own space is obviously important. I certainly like being on my own, but to have other Aspies around at times would be a definite plus. I don't know any other Aspies where I live - the only contacts I have are here on Wrong Planet.

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I know how you feel Sam. It is easy to feel isolated and marginalised here. AS is supposed to affect something like one in a hundred, so where are they? I certainly don't know any other Aspies in my neck of the woods.



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19 Aug 2006, 5:18 pm

I've had some similar thoughts myself.


My thought was to create something of a shelter, and an organization to assist people. Significantly more complicated.

Help develop skills, improve self esteem, and find jobs (or things kind of like jobs). And there would probably be a commune aspect to it as well. Most likely without drugs more because I'd want it to last than anything else.

Soft drugs I don't have a problem with :P And I'd trust Marijuana over Zoloft any day. (No I haven't used either.)

So yeah, probably a general no 'get us arrested' policy.



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19 Aug 2006, 5:27 pm

is it easier for people over in the EU to get housing assistance if they have aspergers than it is for someone with As in the usa? does anyone know anything about this?



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19 Aug 2006, 7:13 pm

how much $$$$ a month ???



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20 Aug 2006, 9:31 am

vivreestesperer wrote:
Is there any financial incentive to making it a group home?


I don't think there's a financial aspect for me, but there may be a way to get additional services for aspies living in the apartment house if it were labeled as a group house. I have to look into that.



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20 Aug 2006, 9:33 am

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The most important attribute to me about a place to live is A) quiet and considerate housemates,



The people that are living there right now are very very quiet. Which I love. I'd need to look into how to make the transition into making it an aspie house. I do have a few vacancies. This is a new thought that I had. I just showed the vacancies to someone and I was thinking to myself, "I hope they just go away so I can do more research for an aspie house." Isn't that terrible of me? LOL.



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20 Aug 2006, 9:41 am

Xuincherguixe wrote:
My thought was to create something of a shelter, and an organization to assist people. Significantly more complicated.

Help develop skills, improve self esteem, and find jobs (or things kind of like jobs). And there would probably be a commune aspect to it as well. Most likely without drugs more because I'd want it to last than anything else.



This was what I was thinking. I don't know if there would be more resources from the state or county if it were considered a group house.

My house could be rented to just aspies. That I could do. But I don't have al the extra money for all of the things that I feel would help even more. I have to find out how much insurance companies would cover. There was just a rally last week in NY for Governor Pataki to sign a bill that would not allow insurance companies to discriminate against treating AS and autism.

I have a ton of calls to make in the next few weeks.



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20 Aug 2006, 9:43 am

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is it easier for people over in the EU to get housing assistance if they have aspergers than it is for someone with As in the usa? does anyone know anything about this?


I'm looking into that. But, if anyone wants to post what they know here, it would be helpful.



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20 Aug 2006, 9:48 am

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how much $$$$ a month ???


Rent for 1BR apts: $550/month with one month security.

But, I'd like to check out what insurance covers so I can get more services for us. This may be the advantage of running as a group house. I need to make a lot of calls over the next several weeks.

Unless there are any WP's that have insurance information they'd like to share regarding a group home for aspies. :wink:

Thanks.



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20 Aug 2006, 11:48 am

summer wrote:
Johnnie wrote:
how much $ a month ???
Rent for 1BR apts: $550/month with one month security.
that price seems about right. rents here in flagstaff run anywhere from $700 and up for a one bedroom. yeah its expensive here the cost of living is the highest in the state of arizona. im sure if you turn it into somekind of "state group home" you can get alot of the cost of almost everything coverd. but that means you more than likely have to follow there rules, to running a group home. i wouldn't mind paying 550 but maybe you could get utilities inluded? :wink:
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20 Aug 2006, 12:17 pm

Summer...I work at a group home for Developmentaly Delayed clients..there is only one resident who lives at a different house then the one I work.I cant help you with many of the "business" details of how the company runs because I am not a house manager just "staff" and they like to keep us in the dark about how the finances work.I can tell you that I hate this company and alot of the "rules" and "expectations" they design for the residents.

All the residents have to be DX "disabled" enough to qualify for full time staff assistance.When that happens ,you lose alot of the autonimy of the residents and have specific guidelines to follow based on the requirements of state and government funding.When they are paying for services they have specific "goals" to meet ,that I think, can be very intrussive to people with AS autonomy.They are required to go on specific "social outings" and have "goals" that sometimes make nosense and are only to meet the requirements of the funders.(like going to a day program to work at some meaningless repetitive task so that they can feel "useful" in society....I think this is a load of crap and demeaning to the real value they have as individuals with their own interests...maybe they want to watch TV....so what!! !

I know there are other services that would be very useful for alot of aspies.My boyfriend has MS with "cognitive eliments" that gave him a social worker to help him organize his paperwork and bills and balance his checkbook.There is also in home care that helps with preparing meals,shopping,transport to medical apts.,and cleaning.To me, that would be much more ideal and would be based on the needs of each individuals strengths and difficultys.

Just something else to think about when working out the details...


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20 Aug 2006, 3:03 pm

waterdogs wrote:
is it easier for people over in the EU to get housing assistance if they have aspergers than it is for someone with As in the usa? does anyone know anything about this?


In Denmark, in my town, I know of one grouphome for young people, I think, they only demand you have acknowledged that you have aspergers. I think it's easy enough to get a room there.

Where I live they have just build 22 small apartments for handicapped people, I think some of them might have aspergers and/or autism. They have their own place but also assistance.



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20 Aug 2006, 4:15 pm

wow sounds like people over in the eu have alot easier time getting help with housing because of there as. there's no way that would happen here or atleast the state where im from it won't. this state is almost backwards when it comes to providing sevices to people with anykind of disability.



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20 Aug 2006, 7:22 pm

summer wrote:
Johnnie wrote:
how much $$$$ a month ???


Rent for 1BR apts: $550/month with one month security.

But, I'd like to check out what insurance covers so I can get more services for us. This may be the advantage of running as a group house. I need to make a lot of calls over the next several weeks.

Unless there are any WP's that have insurance information they'd like to share regarding a group home for aspies. :wink:

Thanks.


I might take a ride over and check it out after you get your information together

Is it a crowded neighborhood full of multi family housing :?: