Understanding films, asking questions during movies

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Morphia
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12 Sep 2006, 10:28 am

I'm really good at watching films, i always keep track of the plot and whats happening. Though i often don't get imagary and hate films which seem to have some deep, meaningful point.....to subtle for me i'm afraid. I suspect that years of reading books and following charector developement and plot has made me good at films too....also most films, certainly in their specific genre class, are very predicatable. I do often wonder why a person would do the things they often do in films, its incomprehensible to me, but i enjoy watching them do it none the less, its kinda like watching nature documentarys...the habitat of the hollywood film charector :)
Infact i follow films so well people often ask ME whats happening and i can explain in minute and unessecary detail.


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13 Sep 2006, 12:20 am

Morphia wrote:
I'm really good at watching films, i always keep track of the plot and whats happening. Though i often don't get imagary and hate films which seem to have some deep, meaningful point.....to subtle for me i'm afraid. I suspect that years of reading books and following charector developement and plot has made me good at films too....also most films, certainly in their specific genre class, are very predicatable. I do often wonder why a person would do the things they often do in films, its incomprehensible to me, but i enjoy watching them do it none the less, its kinda like watching nature documentarys...the habitat of the hollywood film charector :)
Infact i follow films so well people often ask ME whats happening and i can explain in minute and unessecary detail.



Yeah, I think that describes me reasonably accurately. Though, I do have trouble understanding what people are saying and telling faces apart. But, if I can ignore that, I can usually follow plots pretty easily as long as I'm not distracted, with some exceptions (for example, though I normally enjoy science fiction, there were several 70's and 80's era sci-fi movies that always lose me, and I mark the beginning of that era with 2001: A Space Oddysey, which I handled alright... but I point to Zardoz and Phase IV as especially frustrating examples of the kind of sci-fi movies I took a bit personally because I couldn't quite understand what the film-makers were getting at, if anything.)

That said, I do enjoy surrealism - normally, I view surrealism as only a slight exaggeration of the way life tends to look to me sometimes.


Also, I wasn't always very good at following movie plots: I can clearly remember watching cartoons and movies and knowing that things were happening, but not knowing exactly what was going on or why. TV was basically a lot of people running around and doing things I didn't understand and talking endlessly, and I just assumed that everyone else saw TV the same way I did, or at least until until I got older. For that matter, that's what day-to-day life and school were like for me, up to a certain age: people just running around and doing things that didn't quite involve me, and talking non-stop. I remember there being a time when, whether I liked it or not, I had to run around, do things, and talk with everyone else, and I just wasn't quite sure what to do, but more often than not whatever I did was wrong. I figured out movies in late elementary school, but I think I'm only just now beginning to understand real life and real people :D



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13 Sep 2006, 7:57 pm

Even if you understand what's going on in a movie, oftentimes it's a lot more fun to just talk. Most movies are crap.



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13 Sep 2006, 10:53 pm

Especially romantic movies, such soppy crap I would rather sleep through.



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14 Sep 2006, 12:38 pm

I hate movie theaters...even movies I rent can be annoying because I have to keep the remote in hand to turn down the "special effects" noise and then turn up the dialogue...why do they have a scence where something blows up or a war is taking place and then they cut do a conversation where the actors are whispering!! !!Some day I will invest in a TV that automatically adjusts this but for now I will just scream........aaaaaarrrrggggg...

I also have problems with all the female characters looking like shop store dummies...very hard to tell apart...they seem to allow for more diversity in the males who "can" have some characters to latch on to......

As far as following the plot...I usually can until my boyfirend starts asking me questions and then I miss the next part of the plot which he promptly asks me about and I have to say"I dont know,you were blabbing through the whole conversation"....The only really annoying thing is when people do things that seem unrealistic......nobody is that stupid......that can ruin(an already bad) movie.


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17 Sep 2006, 11:50 am

This thread was brought to mind again because of something I saw on television last night. One of the "Kill Bill"s was on... I think it was the second one. My man was watching it while I was on the computer.

There was all this screaming. I looked up just in time to see a woman who had apparently just taken out the eye of another woman drop it on the floor.

Why do so many movies seem to go out of their way to make the viewing audience as disgusted and uncomfortable as possible? Is the average NT so emotionally numbed that they need extreme stimulation in order to really feel anything at all? Does it work at all... if you look, most people just sort of sit there impassively at such times. Perhaps they're so desensitized that even something like this just doesn't "get through" to them.

To put it simply, why in the hell do people watch this sickening, depraved crap?

I absolutely cannot understand that... I've never been able to understand it.



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17 Sep 2006, 2:37 pm

It's so good having Sky plus! Hubby and I both rewind stuff all the time because we've missed what someone said!


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17 Sep 2006, 5:26 pm

Hazelwudi wrote:
Is the average NT so emotionally numbed that they need extreme stimulation in order to really feel anything at all? Does it work at all... if you look, most people just sort of sit there impassively at such times. Perhaps they're so desensitized that even something like this just doesn't "get through" to them.


I think this is exactly true... people get deadened after a while. Personally, I think it has a lot to do with most people growing up watching TV constantly, including lots of graphic violence at an age where they shouldn't be seeing these things. Sadly, I think this also contributes to deadening them to real-world violence, including the ongoing wars and their accompanying atrocities. Once you get to a certain point, many people need more before they feel "shocked" enough to care.



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17 Sep 2006, 5:51 pm

grendel wrote:
I think this is exactly true... people get deadened after a while. Personally, I think it has a lot to do with most people growing up watching TV constantly, including lots of graphic violence at an age where they shouldn't be seeing these things. Sadly, I think this also contributes to deadening them to real-world violence, including the ongoing wars and their accompanying atrocities. Once you get to a certain point, many people need more before they feel "shocked" enough to care.


I think you've got something there, regarding the desensitization and becoming jaded.

All the same, I remember... even as a young child, I was extremely sensitive about these sorts of things, compared to other children. Just how much desensitization have most kids gotten the chance to develop, when they're only 5 or 6?

When I was that age, I remember coming to the conclusion that most "normal" people were monsters who care for nothing but their own self-interests, and who are only capable of feeling rage and fear. If their self-interest doesn't come into play, they're not even capable of that level of emotional response. Deep down, they simply don't care and if they seem like they do care, it is a sham... a social pretense and nothing more.

My opinion on the species hasn't materially changed.



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17 Sep 2006, 6:13 pm

What can I say, I find it very difficult to follow films. I find it difficult to follow a story line because I can only see the 'here and now' at any one point in a film. I don't have the interest in films that most people do anyway - I don't go to the cinema often or even have a DVD player because my interest simply isn't there. I only ever watch films on TV, and only do so to see how good the characters look and what their clothing is like. My interest does not go beyond that, and I've never been able to get as engrossed and enraptured about films as most people.



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21 Jul 2012, 7:15 pm

Had to bump this. I noticed how I always have to Wikipedia a movie plot after I watch it or during, because I don't usually understand what's going on or what they are doing. I was also informed how I provide running commentaries on movies, and people don't seem to like that, even though I think I'm hilarious.



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21 Jul 2012, 7:44 pm

fresco wrote:
Do you tend to ask questions during movies to the annoyance of others? I tend to notice inconsequential information thats unnecessary to the plot like objects in the room or Densel Washington's new teeth, but when dialogue is fast I can't keep up, and its "why is he doing that?" "what did they say" "what did that mean". I can't process all the stuff going on when its complex!


I do that a lot. Last time everyone turned and was like "SHUT UP FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE CANT YOU LEST US WATCH THE MOVIE IF YOU WHEREN'T TALKING YOU WOULD KNOW WHATS GOING ON!"

it hurts.



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21 Jul 2012, 8:48 pm

My dad, who I suspect may have AS as well at this point, ALWAYS asks tons of questions to the point where I can't bear to watch a movie with him. He picks up on really unimportant detaisl, believes that they are important, obsessses over them and then misses the actual plot ENTIRELY.

Most modern movies I get because lets face it, may of them are pretty simple and not a lot of dialogue these days in favor of hot bods and special effects. However if the plot is complicated or there is lots of dialogue I do have problems and so does my husband. The other day we watched "girl with a dragon tattoo" I completely did not understand oh maybe the first half of the movie, but I eventually got enough of it to put it together in the end. IF I watched it again I might understand the whole thing. It was unwatchable for my husband. He couldn't get it. He kept asking "whos that?" for every charachter ecxept the girl with a tattoo because he couldn't recognize them and then "what's this got to do with her? What about the tattoo?" Then he gave up and played tower defense games on his phone for the rest of it.

Anyway we never go to the theater anymore because the dvr is our friend. We often have to loop back and rewatch stuff to try to hash out what is going on.



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22 Jul 2012, 12:34 am

yeah, whenever I watch a movie I'll rewind to certain parts so I can understand the movie better. sometimes I might even need to watch the whole thing again. I rarely watch movies with other people so I don't really ask questions.



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22 Jul 2012, 1:18 am

Yes. But I don't do it all the time because I don't always care to understand or care to know what is going on in the movie.


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