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24 Jan 2013, 10:29 am

Maybe they were just in a hurry to get somewhere...


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24 Jan 2013, 1:01 pm

It is common for people with any sort of invisible disorder to feel self-conscious when experiencing odd reactions from other people. I get offended all the time, and I know it is all irrational but I still can't stop believing my own irrational thoughts, even though I admit that I do.

Like that time when I got 2 girls laughing at me randomly in the middle of a supermarket, when I know I wasn't doing anything unusual at all, I was just there to get shopping like everyone else, I wasn't acting odd or insane or freaky or anything even close. I didn't even notice these girls were there until I felt one of them staring at me in the corner of my eye, and I just subconsciously turned my head only to realise that they WERE both staring at me and one of them kind of grinned and then when they went they both turned round to look at me again. This now got my attention and started up all the self-conscious thoughts in my head, making me wallow in self-pity even more and wanting to commit suicide.

But then I have learnt that some odd reactions from strangers may look so obvious that it was aimed at you in what ever way you look at it, but really there is an explanation that they clearly weren't reacting to you at all. I remember a few weeks ago I was walking along with my friend down an alley way between two houses, and there was a woman in front of us walking on her own. My friend had a crush on a man that lived in one of the houses next to the alley, and as we were walking along we were grinning at each other and whispering a bit about this cute man, and when we reached the end of the alley the woman turned right and just glanced at us as she did so, and we kind of caught her eye too, still grinning. She might have thought we were grinning and whispering about her the whole time, since to her it might have looked obvious that it was aimed at her, but rightfully we didn't even notice her walking in front of us. We were just too absorbed in our own lives.

So I'm not going to say something highly discouraging like ''oh maybe you do odd things without realising it'', because hearing that is off-putting, and I know you are probably self-aware enough if you noticed something like this and felt self-conscious about it afterwards. The situation was most likely to be similar to the one above what I explained.


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24 Jan 2013, 1:45 pm

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I was riding the bus downtown from the college as usual. Two girls got on the bus, a very pretty girl with long black hair and about my height, and a shorter girl with brown hair. They swiped their bus tickets and presumably sat in the back of the bus.

Everything seemed normal until the bus got to the downtown terminal. Since there was a half-hour until I could transfer to another bus to get home, I decided to go to a nearby coffee shop as usual. I was one of the last people to get off the bus. As soon as I exited through the rear door, the tall black-haired girl looked at me for a small fraction of a second, and then ran off, forcing her friend to follow, as if I was going to follow them to wherever they were going to go. I desperately hoped that they weren't going to go into the coffee shop. They didn't (whew!).

Their reaction to me was rude and totally uncalled for. What would cause an 18-ish year old girl that never saw me before to react to me like that in a split second.........Wait, perhaps the wonderful Sandy Hook shooting, which helped stigmatize us aspies even more despite news companies like CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS stating the truth that the vast majority of us on the spectrum are not violent. Gotta love yellow journalism overruling news companies. (NOT!!). That kind of s*** pisses me off royally!! ! Us aspies are not f***ing monsters!! !!



It may have just been random. She could have happened to just look at you and had to get off the bus realizing it was their stop. Plus how would they know you're aspie?


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24 Jan 2013, 1:53 pm

There is a possibility that they ran for a totally different reason, but I understand when something like that happens, it's really unpleasant.

Some women (not necessarily teenagers) are very self-conscious and seem to think all men would want them. Maybe that girl might have been one of them.



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25 Jan 2013, 5:57 am

I've had a few occasions with girls of a certain age too, which have made me feel really uncomfortable. This goes back to my own teenage years. I went into a cafe and sat down beside a table where two girls were sitting. I didn't know the girls at all. One of them starting kicking at the back of my chair, causing me to be thrown forward. My Mum was concerned, so we drank our tea quickly and started to walk out. As we passed them, one of them said, 'I'd love to give that B****** a kicking'. At that, my Mum lunged at her, grabbed her by the collar and gave her a right talking to. My Mum doesn't hold back any and the girl was shaking. My Mum was so glad that she was with me and thought about what might have happened, had I been there on my own or with a friend. I was a complete innocent and had done nothing to them. I had hardly glanced at them, before I sat down, with my back to them, so it can't have been caused by how I had looked at them.

Recently, I sat down in a train, my daughter opposite me. We were sitting beside a girl each, who appeared to be friends. They were looking at us oddly and kind of sniggering. Then they started to send text messages to one another. On receiving a text, they'd have another look at us. I kind of think their texts were about the fashion unconscious Mum in an anorak and her little tomboy, also dressed for the weather. They were wearing very thin clothes and shivering. That's just weird, but happens.

There's no need to concern youreslf with the actions of others being in any way connected to your actions. You know you're not a threat, it's just them being silly/immature or not related to you at all, it just appeared that way.


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25 Jan 2013, 9:29 am

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
I've had a few occasions with girls of a certain age too, which have made me feel really uncomfortable. This goes back to my own teenage years. I went into a cafe and sat down beside a table where two girls were sitting. I didn't know the girls at all. One of them starting kicking at the back of my chair, causing me to be thrown forward. My Mum was concerned, so we drank our tea quickly and started to walk out. As we passed them, one of them said, 'I'd love to give that B****** a kicking'. At that, my Mum lunged at her, grabbed her by the collar and gave her a right talking to. My Mum doesn't hold back any and the girl was shaking. My Mum was so glad that she was with me and thought about what might have happened, had I been there on my own or with a friend. I was a complete innocent and had done nothing to them. I had hardly glanced at them, before I sat down, with my back to them, so it can't have been caused by how I had looked at them.

Recently, I sat down in a train, my daughter opposite me. We were sitting beside a girl each, who appeared to be friends. They were looking at us oddly and kind of sniggering. Then they started to send text messages to one another. On receiving a text, they'd have another look at us. I kind of think their texts were about the fashion unconscious Mum in an anorak and her little tomboy, also dressed for the weather. They were wearing very thin clothes and shivering. That's just weird, but happens.

There's no need to concern youreslf with the actions of others being in any way connected to your actions. You know you're not a threat, it's just them being silly/immature or not related to you at all, it just appeared that way.


I've had very similar experiences myself in cafes and on the train - which I had to use get to work for 10 years (pure torture!)
It's people without the intelligence to occupy themselves with interesting conversation (as they have none!) so they need to pick on the people around them for 'entertainment'.
They pick on people they think look passive so it can be all the more satisfying to give them what for, as your Mother did, as they rarely expect it! In this day and age though, any form of physical reaction towards someone else is too risky in my opinion - you don't know where it will lead. A hard stare is about the most you can risk with people these days!



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25 Jan 2013, 10:16 am

Teenage girls are weird as they test and learn things and hormones rage.
It had absolutely nothing to do with you, or to do with being an Aspie.

I was a nice kid til about 12, then I was a bit standard NT weird, then fairly sorted again at 14. I did some pretty strange things with friends 12-14 due to bonding, boredom, dares, rebellion, hormones, showing off, making up stupid games, testing each others loyalty, being obsessed with boys and clothes and image, all sorts.

People grow up at different rates. Those girls were just being silly and childish, and it was helping them bond. Its like "we're mad, we are, and we have got each other and hate the world!". Everyone tells you to behave so you do something silly to make your mate laugh.



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25 Jan 2013, 10:19 am

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Teenage girls are weird as they test and learn things and hormones rage.
It had absolutely nothing to do with you, or to do with being an Aspie.

I was a nice kid til about 12, then I was a bit standard NT weird, then fairly sorted again at 14. I did some pretty strange things with friends 12-14 due to bonding, boredom, dares, rebellion, hormones, showing off, making up stupid games, testing each others loyalty, being obsessed with boys and clothes and image, all sorts.

People grow up at different rates. Those girls were just being silly and childish, and it was helping them bond. Its like "we're mad, we are, and we have got each other and hate the world!". Everyone tells you to behave so you do something silly to make your mate laugh.


Yes but not so amusing if you are on the receiving end of such behaviour on a regular basis. Some people get targeted more than others.



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25 Jan 2013, 1:01 pm

Sean_91 wrote:
I was riding the bus downtown from the college as usual. Two girls got on the bus, a very pretty girl with long black hair and about my height, and a shorter girl with brown hair. They swiped their bus tickets and presumably sat in the back of the bus.

Everything seemed normal until the bus got to the downtown terminal. Since there was a half-hour until I could transfer to another bus to get home, I decided to go to a nearby coffee shop as usual. I was one of the last people to get off the bus. As soon as I exited through the rear door, the tall black-haired girl looked at me for a small fraction of a second, and then ran off, forcing her friend to follow, as if I was going to follow them to wherever they were going to go. I desperately hoped that they weren't going to go into the coffee shop. They didn't (whew!).

Their reaction to me was rude and totally uncalled for. What would cause an 18-ish year old girl that never saw me before to react to me like that in a split second.........Wait, perhaps the wonderful Sandy Hook shooting, which helped stigmatize us aspies even more despite news companies like CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS stating the truth that the vast majority of us on the spectrum are not violent. Gotta love yellow journalism overruling news companies. (NOT!!). That kind of s*** pisses me off royally!! ! Us aspies are not f***ing monsters!! !!


Maybe one of them liked you and they were playing around. Then general public can be very confusing with their actions.
They could have thought you looked like someone they knew or something random. They would have no way of know your diagnosis.
If they gave you a weird glance when ya'll got off the bus, it's possible they are the streetwise paranoid type who want to make sure no one is following as they are females. Maybe one of them throught you were someone they knew?



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25 Jan 2013, 1:49 pm

Sean_91 wrote:
I was riding the bus downtown from the college as usual. Two girls got on the bus, a very pretty girl with long black hair and about my height, and a shorter girl with brown hair. They swiped their bus tickets and presumably sat in the back of the bus.

Everything seemed normal until the bus got to the downtown terminal. Since there was a half-hour until I could transfer to another bus to get home, I decided to go to a nearby coffee shop as usual. I was one of the last people to get off the bus. As soon as I exited through the rear door, the tall black-haired girl looked at me for a small fraction of a second, and then ran off, forcing her friend to follow, as if I was going to follow them to wherever they were going to go. I desperately hoped that they weren't going to go into the coffee shop. They didn't (whew!).

Their reaction to me was rude and totally uncalled for. What would cause an 18-ish year old girl that never saw me before to react to me like that in a split second.........Wait, perhaps the wonderful Sandy Hook shooting, which helped stigmatize us aspies even more despite news companies like CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS stating the truth that the vast majority of us on the spectrum are not violent. Gotta love yellow journalism overruling news companies. (NOT!!). That kind of s*** pisses me off royally!! ! Us aspies are not f***ing monsters!! !!

that's some minute and specific detail about their appearance and actions that you noticed. i'd tend to wonder (if their reactions had anything to do with you) if they may have felt you were maybe focusing on them a bit too intensely, or maybe it was a bit of unexpected eye contact as nessa238 and Nesf thought. aspies can sometimes do this without intending to do it - they take note of all the people around them and notice what they are wearing and what they are doing and so on, and it is an awful lot like staring at people even though there may not be any eye contact.

i am not sure if this was the case, but i have definitely upset people unintentionally before. like at a job interview, i realised i stared at the interviewer the whole time when she was looking down at her notes so she would have felt uncomfortable. but that is just my impression.

BUT it was probably them just being randomly paranoid.


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25 Jan 2013, 9:26 pm

Don't worry about it. People do strange thing all the time.


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05 Feb 2013, 6:47 pm

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Maybe the look at you was a coincidence and they had just realised that they needed to rush to transfer to another bus?

They didn't transfer to another bus, as I took a different route out of the terminal to put some distance between myself and the girls. They were about half-a block ahead of me when I turned left onto the sidewalk.

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If they gave you a weird glance when ya'll got off the bus, it's possible they are the streetwise paranoid type who want to make sure no one is following as they are females.


I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were like that, or the tall dark-haired girl at least, as I've come across people like that before while riding the bus.



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06 Feb 2013, 8:20 pm

Either they were rushing for something or you're not telling us something.



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06 Feb 2013, 8:31 pm

You're reading WAY too much into this. You have no idea what they were thinking; they could have just been in a rush to get somewhere. One glance does not mean instant dislike.



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Sean_91 wrote:
I was riding the bus downtown from the college as usual. Two girls got on the bus, a very pretty girl with long black hair and about my height, and a shorter girl with brown hair. They swiped their bus tickets and presumably sat in the back of the bus.

Everything seemed normal until the bus got to the downtown terminal. Since there was a half-hour until I could transfer to another bus to get home, I decided to go to a nearby coffee shop as usual. I was one of the last people to get off the bus. As soon as I exited through the rear door, the tall black-haired girl looked at me for a small fraction of a second, and then ran off, forcing her friend to follow, as if I was going to follow them to wherever they were going to go. I desperately hoped that they weren't going to go into the coffee shop. They didn't (whew!).

Their reaction to me was rude and totally uncalled for. What would cause an 18-ish year old girl that never saw me before to react to me like that in a split second.........Wait, perhaps the wonderful Sandy Hook shooting, which helped stigmatize us aspies even more despite news companies like CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS stating the truth that the vast majority of us on the spectrum are not violent. Gotta love yellow journalism overruling news companies. (NOT!!). That kind of s*** pisses me off royally!! ! Us aspies are not f***ing monsters!! !!

that's some minute and specific detail about their appearance and actions that you noticed. i'd tend to wonder (if their reactions had anything to do with you) if they may have felt you were maybe focusing on them a bit too intensely, or maybe it was a bit of unexpected eye contact as nessa238 and Nesf thought. aspies can sometimes do this without intending to do it - they take note of all the people around them and notice what they are wearing and what they are doing and so on, and it is an awful lot like staring at people even though there may not be any eye contact.

i am not sure if this was the case, but i have definitely upset people unintentionally before. like at a job interview, i realised i stared at the interviewer the whole time when she was looking down at her notes so she would have felt uncomfortable. but that is just my impression.

BUT it was probably them just being randomly paranoid.

I agree here, if he was able to detail them so much, then they probably thought he was staring and they found it strange/creepy. Honestly if a man was staring at me I'd go away fast since it's a bit suspicious, although I can tell you are harmless.