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31 Jul 2013, 5:03 pm

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That guy was an as*hole. I wanted to slap the sh** out of his head. He put that woman in major debt then basically said, 'tough sh** deal with it'.
The creep was also saying the fact that she was worried that she would go into retirement in debt because of him was a sign of her rigid thinking! Arsehattery of a highly developed kind. He has no idea how lucky he is that they have a kid. Why doesn't he have any empathy for her????


A typical psychopathic behavior is to victimize people and then blame them for being victimized. This guy may or may not be a psychopath or sociopath but he definitely has issues going on if he can actually say something inane like "welcome to the real world" in reference to inflicting $120,000 in debt on his own wife.


I thought that was well shown, given the very brief snipets of the whole situation the film showed. I really liked her, too. I identified with that moment she was enthused by the water and she was asking her boy if he enjoyed as much as she did and he sort of gently, said "no mom, that's just you." I am so much the same way. It was nice seeing someone else really getting into the pure joy of aesthetic appreciation and phenomenological apprehension like that!

I brake for shiny objects! I rejoice in Kelvin-Helmholtz and Rayleigh-Taylor instabilities!

I hope that wonderful woman gets out of the trap her husband put her in OK.



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31 Jul 2013, 5:33 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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That guy was an as*hole. I wanted to slap the sh** out of his head. He put that woman in major debt then basically said, 'tough sh** deal with it'.
The creep was also saying the fact that she was worried that she would go into retirement in debt because of him was a sign of her rigid thinking! Arsehattery of a highly developed kind. He has no idea how lucky he is that they have a kid. Why doesn't he have any empathy for her????


A typical psychopathic behavior is to victimize people and then blame them for being victimized. This guy may or may not be a psychopath or sociopath but he definitely has issues going on if he can actually say something inane like "welcome to the real world" in reference to inflicting $120,000 in debt on his own wife.


That's exactly why I called him a parasite in my earlier post. I've met real psychopaths in my life and the common theme with them is they all find a woman who they can make emotionally dependent on them. You probably noticed in that segment, toward the end of it, how he was 'softly' threatening to leave her. What she does then is mind boggling- Her behavior instantly changes from expressing that she was wronged into appeasing him. She is totally dependent on him and he knows how to play her like a puppet (a $120,000 puppet). She doesn't have any bruises on her skin but that is an abused woman. I'm sitting there thinking "Motherf***er you're threatening to leave her now that there is nothing left for you to drain out of her". That s**t really pisses me off.



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31 Jul 2013, 5:45 pm

Is there any way to watch this from outside of the US ? I get told that there are restrictions when I try to access the video.



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31 Jul 2013, 6:55 pm

Through Karla's ASD page in Facebook, I found Paula C. Durbin-Westby's blog. Paula is the woman whose husband's comments and actions drew our attention and she has something to say about it:
http://paulacdurbinwestbyautisticblog.b ... do_26.html

The more I see and read about her, the more I like.
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I won't get into what he spent the money on, since I am not interested in trashing him here. He's my kid's dad. I would still be married to him (I think) if he had not repeatedly pressured (a nice word for some of it) me into refinancing the house.



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31 Jul 2013, 10:39 pm

I thought it was an interesting documentary. I was somewhat struck by the way the older ASD woman whose husband put her in debt appeared for all intents and purposes to be going out of her way to demonstrate her AS traits, the way she kept saying things like, "I don't like to be touched," and "being squeezed makes me feel so much calmer," to her husband, not even to the camera, as if she were trying to prove her traits to him rather than show NTs watching the documentary the smaller details of what having an ASD is like. What I would love is a documentary made specifically for aspies that delves into the mind of an NT, so we can see what life is like for them, because frankly I have only a basic overview of why they do what they do, and I would love to know more, from a scientific standpoint, and because it will undoubtedly make interacting with them easier.

One other thing that I found interesting was the way Wolf, the black man, said, "No offence, but I don't really want to be NT." NTs shouldn't take offence at that, because they never consider it rude to say things like, "I'd hate to have Asperger's", and the fact that they're still trying to cure us; not wanting to be of a neurological type that you aren't should not offend anyone.


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01 Aug 2013, 1:52 am

I was very surprised when the old man compared his wife having AS with being an alcoholic, when he said

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It's, umm, 'Okay you know something about yourself now, you know, but where's the accountability for it? It's like I'm putting up with, with somebody who just, you know can do and be anything they want, and then I have to just deal with it." It's-it's like me being an alcoholic, drinking. If I was just out getting drunk every night coming back, then I say "Well you'll just deal with it," and I don't think that's fair for some reason.
Someone who has such a fundamental lack of understanding of what autism is should not be married to someone who is autistic.

His understanding is backward. His speech is as if neurotypicals are often asked to be accommodating. Throughout life, autistic people are taught to try to match neurotypical behavior, and are constantly berated for failing to exactly do so. Not fundamentally changing your perception is not a failing. Demanding that someone fundamentally change their perception is unreasonable, and is abusive.



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01 Aug 2013, 4:25 am

Pfft. LIKE I'D WATCH THE POV OF SOMEONE WHO HURTS OTHERS FOR THE LOLS!! !!
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01 Aug 2013, 7:46 am

Did anyone find watching the little girl to be painful? My mom and a family friend who has two children on the spectrum both said it was painful. I didn't find it all that painful, since her parents seemed like they were great with her and she seemed quite happy. My sister (an Aspie) didn't find it painful, either.

I almost got rather upset with my mom (as did my sister), actually, because I could tell it was because of her own experiences with my sister when she was young (although my sister has always been verbal) that she said watching the little girl was painful. It was almost as though she was saying that she found my sister when she was young to be painful. Alternatively, though, I thought she (and the other mother) might simply be remembering the societal pressures, like people telling my mom that my sister was possessed by a demon or my step uncles making fun of her, which I completely understand being painful. But that wasn't the sense I got...

I have never had a child on the spectrum (or any child, for that matter) so I readily admit I don't understand what it must have been like. But their reactions did make me a bit uncomfortable, so I thought I'd check and see if that was a pretty common reaction (in which case I would be the strange one).


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01 Aug 2013, 10:59 am

i found it online last night i watchedpart of it but it was late i had to go to bed im going to watch the rest either tonigjt or tommorow



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01 Aug 2013, 2:48 pm

I just started to rewatch and showed my wife.

She said she thought it was really good and wants to watch the whole thing tonight. On second viewing of the 7 minutes, I agree. It's really good. I did not find the scenes of the children sad.

I think this was a very good film that communicates a lot without being obvious or heavy handed. I don't think it tries to take anyone deeply into a description of the broad varieties of autistic experience, but it does show that there is a real, alternative style of perception and thought that is not "neurotypical."

It might seem like fluff from a facts and figures perspective, but I think it's very strong as a way of showing little insightful views into ways of being.

Just the fact that some parents cry when they see the children and some autisitics wonder why when they see the parents doing that is an indication that the film maker's approach works on several levels.



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01 Aug 2013, 4:58 pm

guess the non-us-citizens will have to wait for it to be uploaded youtube or somewhere else.



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13 Feb 2014, 11:10 pm

Does anyone have a link to a site where I can watch this? The links in the previous comments don't work. The website says it's not currently available. :cry:


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14 Feb 2014, 4:03 am

http://www.firedrive.com/file/21A626E21FC96825


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14 Feb 2014, 8:39 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
http://www.firedrive.com/file/21A626E21FC96825


Thank you so much! :D


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14 Feb 2014, 9:15 pm

Thanks for the link DevilKisses!

BigSister wrote:
Did anyone find watching the little girl to be painful? My mom and a family friend who has two children on the spectrum both said it was painful. I didn't find it all that painful, since her parents seemed like they were great with her and she seemed quite happy. My sister (an Aspie) didn't find it painful, either.


No, not at all. I thought the little girl was adorable and I agree she seemed happy. It made me feel good to watch her.



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15 Feb 2014, 11:18 am

DevilKisses wrote:
http://www.firedrive.com/file/21A626E21FC96825


Thanks!