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25 Feb 2014, 2:52 pm

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First of all, the mom came out and said that the media outlets were giving false info by saying he has Asperger's, she said he doesn't have Asperger's but something "similar to". Secondly, I feel bad for this boy, the WHOLE WORLD knows about his lonely circumstance and his "problems", and he doesn't even get a say with whether or not he wanted them to know. I think what'll happen is he's going to be embarrassed and the kids at school will bully him about his "mommy trying to get friends for him". Kids are cruel unfortunately. And what if the boy just doesn't want friends because he doesn't like anyone at school (I felt that way). And by the way, parties are loud and socially overwhelming and maybe he agrees. I hope there's a happy ending to this but I'm not sure it's a guarantee.

My thoughts exactly. I am tired of the trend of parents speaking FOR their children, who can make their OWN decisions. I know I sure would not wish for my mum to do this. I would be utterly mortified. Parents just do not think this stuff out.


As apposed to the very real consequences that depression and loneliness bring, even for kids that young? Sorry, but if it was between ultimate consequences and temporary ones, I'd choose to help the kid get through the temporary ones in order to prevent the ultimate ones.


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25 Feb 2014, 3:04 pm

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First of all, the mom came out and said that the media outlets were giving false info by saying he has Asperger's, she said he doesn't have Asperger's but something "similar to". Secondly, I feel bad for this boy, the WHOLE WORLD knows about his lonely circumstance and his "problems", and he doesn't even get a say with whether or not he wanted them to know. I think what'll happen is he's going to be embarrassed and the kids at school will bully him about his "mommy trying to get friends for him". Kids are cruel unfortunately. And what if the boy just doesn't want friends because he doesn't like anyone at school (I felt that way). And by the way, parties are loud and socially overwhelming and maybe he agrees. I hope there's a happy ending to this but I'm not sure it's a guarantee.

My thoughts exactly. I am tired of the trend of parents speaking FOR their children, who can make their OWN decisions. I know I sure would not wish for my mum to do this. I would be utterly mortified. Parents just do not think this stuff out.


As apposed to the very real consequences that depression and loneliness bring, even for kids that young? Sorry, but if it was between ultimate consequences and temporary ones, I'd choose to help the kid get through the temporary ones in order to prevent the ultimate ones.


Facebook friends are not real life friends. I have 546 friends on facebook and I feel lonely and depressed because out of all of those, I only see 2 of them in real life. This boy had his troubles shown to the whole world without a choice in it. He has made 2 million fake facebook friends who will forget about him after his birthday. Do you know how depressed I'd feel to know that they all forgot about me after this? It's easy to show sympathy over the internet and send a birthday card to someone, but to be a genuine friend to someone takes more than that.

What would've been better is if she made awareness to his actual difficulties WITH HIS CONSENT, and made a movement of showing parents that they need to teach their kids to be friends with the lonely quiet kid and also the loud social one because anyone can be lonely and everyone deserves friends.



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25 Feb 2014, 3:26 pm

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First of all, the mom came out and said that the media outlets were giving false info by saying he has Asperger's, she said he doesn't have Asperger's but something "similar to". Secondly, I feel bad for this boy, the WHOLE WORLD knows about his lonely circumstance and his "problems", and he doesn't even get a say with whether or not he wanted them to know. I think what'll happen is he's going to be embarrassed and the kids at school will bully him about his "mommy trying to get friends for him". Kids are cruel unfortunately. And what if the boy just doesn't want friends because he doesn't like anyone at school (I felt that way). And by the way, parties are loud and socially overwhelming and maybe he agrees. I hope there's a happy ending to this but I'm not sure it's a guarantee.

My thoughts exactly. I am tired of the trend of parents speaking FOR their children, who can make their OWN decisions. I know I sure would not wish for my mum to do this. I would be utterly mortified. Parents just do not think this stuff out.


As apposed to the very real consequences that depression and loneliness bring, even for kids that young? Sorry, but if it was between ultimate consequences and temporary ones, I'd choose to help the kid get through the temporary ones in order to prevent the ultimate ones.


Facebook friends are not real life friends. I have 546 friends on facebook and I feel lonely and depressed because out of all of those, I only see 2 of them in real life. This boy had his troubles shown to the whole world without a choice in it. He has made 2 million fake facebook friends who will forget about him after his birthday. Do you know how depressed I'd feel to know that they all forgot about me after this? It's easy to show sympathy over the internet and send a birthday card to someone, but to be a genuine friend to someone takes more than that.

What would've been better is if she made awareness to his actual difficulties WITH HIS CONSENT, and made a movement of showing parents that they need to teach their kids to be friends with the lonely quiet kid and also the loud social one because anyone can be lonely and everyone deserves friends.


1. I'm not claiming that facebook friends are "real friends", nor am I claiming that they would stay in contact with someone they don't know. This is obviously not a rally to make friends for the kid, it's a way to make him realize that with all his problems, whatever they might be, he's not alone in the world.
2. You're not the kid and the kid is not you, using yourself as an example to how the kid "would" feel after all this has passed (if ever) is a completely backwards way to look at it, we don't know how the kid will feel after all of this is said and done, but one thing he will do is look back on that day, on that facebook page and realize that millions of people responded in order to help him feel better, people that don't even know him were willing to take time out of their lives to respond to him and his problems, telling him that it'll be ok without judging him in any way. A message is being sent to him through that page, and that's that people do care, and he has the potential to meet so many people who feel the same way. To that kid, suddenly a few hundred kids at school won't seem so bad, not when there are millions to back you up, regardless of whether or not they know what your disabilities are.
We should all have been so lucky to have that encouragement when we were younger.
3. When a parent sees their kid in pain, they want to fix the problem in any way they can. For all we know, the kid's depression could be far worse than any of us know, for all we know the kid could be so depressed, he could have been contemplating suicide (we may never know), don't you think this is better than that? Ultimately, the mother is the only one who knows how much her kid has suffered, who are any of us to say how she should treat the situation?


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25 Feb 2014, 3:53 pm

I would be humiliated. I would hate going to school the next day to the jeers and snickers of kids going, "Happy biiiiiiiirthdayyyyy Mikassyna!" and then go off laughing amongst themselves. What the kid wants is people IN REAL LIFE being nice to him, not people all over the world feeling sorry for him.



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25 Feb 2014, 3:58 pm

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I would be humiliated. I would hate going to school the next day to the jeers and snickers of kids going, "Happy biiiiiiiirthdayyyyy Mikassyna!" and then go off laughing amongst themselves. What the kid wants is people IN REAL LIFE being nice to him, not people all over the world feeling sorry for him.


I would call people posting positive feedback on facebook the very definition of people being nice to him, it certainly isn't people "feeling sorry for him". As for those kids at school, as I've stated previously, I'm pretty sure they'd be rather insignificant compared to the millions of people backing him up and giving him words of encouragement.


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25 Feb 2014, 4:11 pm

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I would be humiliated. I would hate going to school the next day to the jeers and snickers of kids going, "Happy biiiiiiiirthdayyyyy Mikassyna!" and then go off laughing amongst themselves. What the kid wants is people IN REAL LIFE being nice to him, not people all over the world feeling sorry for him.


I would call people posting positive feedback on facebook the very definition of people being nice to him, it certainly isn't people "feeling sorry for him". As for those kids at school, as I've stated previously, I'm pretty sure they'd be rather insignificant compared to the millions of people backing him up and giving him words of encouragement.


Yes I feel the say way and I posted on there too.

I am not taking pity on him I know what he is going through because I have been there and done that.



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25 Feb 2014, 4:14 pm

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I would be humiliated. I would hate going to school the next day to the jeers and snickers of kids going, "Happy biiiiiiiirthdayyyyy Mikassyna!" and then go off laughing amongst themselves. What the kid wants is people IN REAL LIFE being nice to him, not people all over the world feeling sorry for him.


I would call people posting positive feedback on facebook the very definition of people being nice to him, it certainly isn't people "feeling sorry for him". As for those kids at school, as I've stated previously, I'm pretty sure they'd be rather insignificant compared to the millions of people backing him up and giving him words of encouragement.


Yes I feel the say way and I posted on there too.

I am not taking pity on him I know what he is going through because I have been there and done that.


Precisely, as have I.


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26 Feb 2014, 5:09 am

I don't care what others think of her. I just don't like that it makes the rest of us moms to friendless autistic kids seem not caring enough. Friendship should be spontaneous, not forced or arranged. Life is complicated enough without making everyone liking everyone else.

*Maybe I should start a page for my friendless brother. If he can have some "friends" maybe I can be off the hook being his only social contact (we heartily dislike each other). :D If only money is no object we can all just go rent a friend whenever we want. There are tons of friends for hire in every city.


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26 Feb 2014, 4:48 pm

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I don't care what others think of her. I just don't like that it makes the rest of us moms to friendless autistic kids seem not caring enough 1. Friendship should be spontaneous, not forced or arranged 2. Life is complicated enough without making everyone liking everyone else.

*Maybe I should start a page for my friendless brother. If he can have some "friends" maybe I can be off the hook being his only social contact (we heartily dislike each other). :D If only money is no object we can all just go rent a friend whenever we want. There are tons of friends for hire in every city.


1. Sorry to say, but that's a very selfish point of view. One person decided to make a facebook page and got lucky with it becoming a popular incident, that doesn't mean squat to who you are, or how much you care about your child. Is everyone supposed to remain at everyone else's standard of parenting just because it might bruise some people's egos? Because that sounds really dumb to me.

2. Again, this page wasn't meant to create friends for the kid, it's to help him feel better on his birthday, period. There's nothing, anywhere, stating that the page was for anything more than that. The fact that people are jumping outright to the same conclusion is pretty ridiculous.


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26 Feb 2014, 5:28 pm

This seems really controversial. I hope that this is the right thing for this child and his family. And I believe that what is being overlooked by those worried for what this 10 year old may feel is the good it does when those people who read the story and thought for a moment have that inside them and perhaps at least a few go forward taking more care for how their behavior and attitude can support, or destroy, another. No down side to that.



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26 Feb 2014, 8:26 pm

She wants to show him this and on the page it says "he has problems and acts out in school" . If I heard that about me I would go on strike of doing chores again and find other ways to make her pay.
P.s. he reminds me of a friend I have.


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26 Feb 2014, 8:56 pm

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She wants to show him this and on the page it says "he has problems and acts out in school" . If I heard that about me I would go on strike of doing chores again and find other ways to make her pay.
P.s. he reminds me of a friend I have.

I would think a child's reaction would depend on the relationship they have as well as what he hears said about him by teachers and peers.



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26 Feb 2014, 8:58 pm

He has sensory processing disorder not autism read the daily mail article.


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26 Feb 2014, 9:04 pm

Interesting. My understanding was that SPD could come with some ASD like traits but not as severe social or communication problems. No friends surprises me.



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27 Feb 2014, 10:09 am

Waterfalls wrote:
Interesting. My understanding was that SPD could come with some ASD like traits but not as severe social or communication problems. No friends surprises me.


I agree. I've never heard of SPD causing social deficits, but I don't know... The part that confused me was the mother said "he acts out" at school. Who wants to be friends with someone who is acting out? I never did. I wanted to stay clear from the trouble makers.