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11 Jan 2016, 3:43 pm

I am fully aware that I possess no talents. I cannot draw. I cannot write. I cannot sing. And I am bordering on being socially ret*d. But what makes my whole meaningless existence all the more pitiful is the fact that I am one of the most indolent men alive. It's impossible for me to adequately express how lazy I am in words. I am a cross between Homer Simpson and The Dude. :oops:


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11 Jan 2016, 3:49 pm

You never know... perhaps you just haven't discovered your talent. That's what I like telling myself anyway.



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11 Jan 2016, 3:52 pm

neilson_wheels wrote:
It's unrealistic to compare yourself to savants and geniuses, they are exceptional and the only reason they achieve that status is because they are measured against the rest of us..

Find something you like and work on it, that's all that matters, as above you have to experiment with lots of different options. Try not to be hyper-critical of oneself, it's a common trap that will trip you up.
I agree, but also most of those people severely lack in other areas. I would not trade places with anyone on that scale.
Just work at getting as good as you can with something you really like to do as mentioned above. It really is all that matters. And, it doesn't have to be one thing, it can other things, interwoven disciplines, anything. Have fun!!


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11 Jan 2016, 4:04 pm

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I have talent, but I have talent in things that generally do not matter or that probably won't get me anywhere in life (like procrastination).

I feel like I often have to work significantly harder to get things under my belt especially if it involves motor skills or abstract concepts.. or even written instructions confuse me because I find there is no written list that is ever as specific as it needs to be.. I took almost a year to get the hang of crochet. I've been doing artwork for as long as I can remember, but I'm still at a poor skill level.. especially considering how much I use to practice/sketch.

And then I have talents that could potentially get me somewhere in life if I understood how to make use of them, or something.. I'm not sure. I just know I'm missing a major piece of the puzzle for a lot of things. Like computer programming/IT, photography equipment repair, large printer repair, web development..

But because of all this, I do feel like I am without talents. Especially significant ones that would help me pursue my passions, although I feel like I might need to do some major "soul searching" soon here.. so I can make some choices.

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I have talent, but I have talent in things that generally do not matter or that probably won't get me anywhere in life (like procrastination).

I feel like I often have to work significantly harder to get things under my belt especially if it involves motor skills or abstract concepts.. or even written instructions confuse me because I find there is no written list that is ever as specific as it needs to be.. I've been doing artwork for as long as I can remember, but I'm still at a poor skill level.. especially considering how much I use to practice/sketch.

And then I have talents that could potentially get me somewhere in life if I understood how to make use of them, or something.. I'm not sure. I just know I'm missing a major piece of the puzzle for a lot of things. Like computer programming/IT, photography equipment repair, large printer repair, web development..

But because of all this, I do feel like I am without talents. Especially significant ones that would help me pursue my passions, although I feel like I might need to do some major "soul searching" soon here.. so I can make some choices.

This is my life in a nutshell.

It's funny though, that killing time can be a talent, because whenever someone says
"I'm bored" I can be like, "Oh, well, you can do this, this, this, this, this..." :mrgreen:

Whenever I have to stall for something, that can also be quite good, or in situations where there's nothing to do, I can come up with ways to entertain myself. So I suppose it can be quite nice in some respects. :)

(I feel a lot better having written that. :lol: )


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11 Jan 2016, 10:52 pm

I am smart and I have a lot of musical talent. So, I cannot say I have ever felt like I have no talent, though sometimes I feel discouraged about it.

But what I can say is that talent and intelligence do not guarantee success. Success in a particular area requires (some) talent, a LOT of hard work, and the right opportunities and people to come along that will help get you where you need to be. One cannot necessarily blame a lack of success on a lack of talent OR a lack of hard work. A person can have both a lot of talent and determination and work *very* hard and still not achieve success.

But what is success, anyway? This is where each person needs to define their own. If you define success by someone else's standards, you will never be happy. Personally, I think happiness and peace with one's self (and with God, IMO) is the best way to have success. Some people are very happy and successful without having a lot of money or status. They might work very boring jobs and have a very quiet life, but they are still happy. Other people can be in powerful positions and be wealthy, and still not be happy. Is that person truly successful?

Talent is not needed for happiness. Someone can work at a factory all his or her life just working the line and being a faithful worker doing the same thing day in and day out and still be happy. This person is more successful, IMO, than someone who is miserable.

Sometimes too much talent and intelligence can create more disappointment, because one can see and understand one's *potential* and then see how much they have missed the mark. They have more "what-ifs" to wonder about.



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11 Jan 2016, 11:13 pm

Hmm I kinda disagree with above. If you want to achieve success and you put in the hard work constantly over a period of time you must achieve things by law lol



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11 Jan 2016, 11:45 pm

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Hmm I kinda disagree with above. If you want to achieve success and you put in the hard work constantly over a period of time you must achieve things by law lol
Not really. Things can fall apart no matter how much work you put in beforehand. There are certain limits that anybody will reach. If not, we could all be football stars or CEOs.

And, it also does not explain how people worked hard all their lives and never saw success but became successful post mortem. Van Gogh anyone?


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12 Jan 2016, 12:00 am

Success is indeed defined differently by each person. Success in life is achieving what you desire in life. One could be a movie star, worth millions, adored by the public, but not be successful in life because all that he/she really wanted was to be an artist, or musician, or to be a doctor, or to have a family.

And many people do work very hard in life and never achieve success for various reasons. Lack of talent is only one.



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12 Jan 2016, 12:34 am

Yigeren wrote:
Success is indeed defined differently by each person. Success in life is achieving what you desire in life. One could be a movie star, worth millions, adored by the public, but not be successful in life because all that he/she really wanted was to be an artist, or musician, or to be a doctor, or to have a family.

And many people do work very hard in life and never achieve success for various reasons. Lack of talent is only one.
Talent and hard work can get you in the door. Sometimes just hard work. But beyond that, things can be blown so many ways. How well do you fit into the social dynamic at the place? How well can you track and manipulate multiple things at once? Can you move fast enough with conflicting instructions being thrown at you? How are you at handling pressure?

So many ways...I have all mine catalogued. But the problem is that as I cannot see the whole problem holistically to understand how to move forward at this time. Really stuck here.


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12 Jan 2016, 12:43 am

zkydz wrote:
Yigeren wrote:
Success is indeed defined differently by each person. Success in life is achieving what you desire in life. One could be a movie star, worth millions, adored by the public, but not be successful in life because all that he/she really wanted was to be an artist, or musician, or to be a doctor, or to have a family.

And many people do work very hard in life and never achieve success for various reasons. Lack of talent is only one.
Talent and hard work can get you in the door. Sometimes just hard work. But beyond that, things can be blown so many ways. How well do you fit into the social dynamic at the place? How well can you track and manipulate multiple things at once? Can you move fast enough with conflicting instructions being thrown at you? How are you at handling pressure?

So many ways...I have all mine catalogued. But the problem is that as I cannot see the whole problem holistically to understand how to move forward at this time. Really stuck here.


You ought to write down everything and get an outsider's opinion. I try to do that because I have the same problem when it comes to personal issues, even though I can analyze other's problems and see the whole picture, I can't always do the same for myself.



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12 Jan 2016, 1:19 am

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You ought to write down everything and get an outsider's opinion. I try to do that because I have the same problem when it comes to personal issues, even though I can analyze other's problems and see the whole picture, I can't always do the same for myself.
Henceforth the official diagnosis. I don't trust the average person...really don't have anyone close enough to be able to do that because it's such a special thing to deal with. My wife is trying to make heads or tails of this. She's trying, she's been protective, but doesn't understand.

If I am far enough away from a situation I can do better when observing people. It's when it becomes an interpersonal dynamic that it goes haywire.

Also, I am still identifying everything that may actually be 'off beat' by NT standards and finding words or ways to express what's going on inside is difficult. I find many things here that describe what has always been in the back of my head but never crystallized until I see it in another person's words. I feel like Bumble-Bee (Transformers) jumping stations to find dialogue to fit the narrative many times.


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12 Jan 2016, 1:31 am

^ I felt the same way when I first started seriously researching Asperger's. I thought, "wow, these people could be me." It was like hearing my own words and thoughts but it was other people saying them. I had felt so different and alone before. Now I realize I'm really not that different. But I myself could never quite really explain why I felt so different and explain my experiences to average people.

Now I'm just waiting for tests at the end of the week.



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12 Jan 2016, 1:49 am

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^ I felt the same way when I first started seriously researching Asperger's. I thought, "wow, these people could be me." It was like hearing my own words and thoughts but it was other people saying them. I had felt so different and alone before. Now I realize I'm really not that different. But I myself could never quite really explain why I felt so different and explain my experiences to average people.

Now I'm just waiting for tests at the end of the week.

Oh!! You took your tests already? Cool.....Let us know how it goes.

I am taking the first three of my six (so far) on the 20th. Don't know which three tests they will start with.

Here's a puzzler for me....they say they are going to give me an IQ test because of the apparent speed my mind works as well as my memory. So, I haven't done practical maths since I was 14, but wrote some of my own algorithms when learning to program my games. Nothing but the basic four in 41 years. I know if I am tested on any word problems or geometry I will be really boned. Never took trig or calculus. So, should I study? Should I stay in my current state? I want to take the test the way they want to measure me. Are they using other metrics to gauge intelligence?

But, that one really has me curious.


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12 Jan 2016, 7:06 am

I know of several professional musicians who work in full-time well-paying ensembles who are miserable and are counting the days to retirement. It's just a job to them, not a calling. They were talented enough to pursue music to that level and land the positions! Yet, they can't wait until the day they don't have to do it anymore.



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12 Jan 2016, 7:10 am

I don't have any great talent in any particular area.



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12 Jan 2016, 7:43 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't have any great talent in any particular area.

Pfft ... not true ... you are a world class flirt!


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