"Everyone should have to work retail."
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What sort of things were they cheating the system out of?
1. Using coupons in a way that wasn't intended, and that they also obviously knew that they weren't allowed to do, and then pretending that they didn't know.
2. Trying to get deals that they knew didn't apply to what they were purchasing, and then complaining about it.
3. Trying to return items that they weren't really supposed to be able to return, and then complaining when they weren't allowed.
4. Deliberately trying to distract cashiers so that they would get free items. If a cashier would forget to ask certain questions, the customer would often get a free item, depending on what kind of program was started to "motivate" the cashiers to sell better.
Men didn't usually bother to do these things. Probably because men didn't really care to shop there, and also because women often feel comfortable bullying other women, but men can't usually get away with that type of behavior. Not in public, anyway.
I use to work in a grocery store and those instances bring back horrible memories. I was always terrible with the coupon thing. Checking the expiry dates, the quantities, the flavour, yadayada. I screwed up all the time. My anxiety was a killer. Once I accepted a dry cleaning receipt as a cash voucher and another time I accepted a valid voucher but scanned it in wrong. I couldn't stand it. Men were just as likely to trip me up as women though.
I also worked in a grocery store for a very short period of time. Awful experience. I'll never do it again.
Where I worked it was more of a typical retail environment, and it catered much more towards women. People can be very rude and demanding.
We also had plenty of shoplifters. Some were quite bold, and very belligerent if confronted.
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I find the opening statement pretty demeaning considering I usually work 40+ hours weekly on public projects strictly as subtext for my technical consulting. In lieu of retail I've worked strictly with technology & frequently sold devices to fund research as I go.
The reality of it is that both skilled trades & retail/service work are just about equally marginalized.
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I used to want to work in retail, but I had some experience in retail and found it wasn't really for me. I found some customers intimidating, and toddlers screaming from their pushchairs really distracting. Sometimes I got really socially phobic and had panic attacks because I couldn't face all the people. I was happiest being in the back room sorting out the stock, out of the prying eyes of the public. Interacting with colleagues I was fine with and enjoyed, but working out on the shop floor was very daunting.
But whenever I look for retail work all they want is someone to be able to do all duties, including interacting with customers, not just being in the stock room/warehouse. Companies that are more understanding of a person's needs are rather rare to come across, and finding jobs is hard as it is.
People say I can't be picky, but someone with my condition has to be picky. This is what makes my life challenging at times. Anxiety is not just something you can ignore.
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I used to post on customerssuck.com and that site was an absolute godsend. I honestly don't know how people can make a career out on retail. Sure, I met some really nice people in my retail time but it was E-X-H-A-U-S-T-I-N-G! I used to come home and literally collapse on the floor. Between the idiotic management, clueless coworkers and rude customers it's a real wake up call. I always treat anyone in the service industry with extra respect.
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Worked at Wal-Mart, but I worked in the back moving boxes.
Now, working at McDonald's......that blew. You get the dumbest, rudest customers in the drive-thru. I now avoid customer service jobs like the plague. I don't have the patience for stupid, entitled jerkwad customers.
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They just want people to know how much it sucks to work in retail, so people treat retail workers better. I kind of understand where they're coming from, but to me they sound like whiny college students. I used to treat retail workers like crap, but I had a reason.
When retail workers act fake it really gets on my nerves and it makes me feel uncomfortable. It's pretty much the uncanny valley effect at work. I now know they're told to act fake, so I try my best not to be rude. Unfortunately everyone has a different definition of rude.
Some retail workers think they're entitled to everyone engaging with them. Not everyone that's going shopping wants to be social. They should accept that some people ignore them or avoid talking to them.
I worked in retail at two different stores. The 1st was WalMart was Ok at 1st but got worse as I was there longer because of management changes & the 2nd place was alright.
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I did work in retail, for four hellish years, and I think I do understand why they are made to do certain things, be a certain way, the pressure etc --- BUT IT'S STILL no excuse for some of the stuff I don't like as a customer now.
I recently posted about a store clerk being in so much of a hurry that he gave me a bad shock when just ONE second of polite getting of my attention would have made no difference to what he was hurrying for, but would have made a big difference to the heart attack he nearly gave me and my subsequent impression of how little respect I feel I get in that store. (They have other types of bad customer service also).
It's BECAUSE I've worked retail that I reserve a right to be pissed off at the way some store staff treat me and others at times.
I was held to a very high standard which I bent over backward to meet, under difficult circumstances and my own not very good abilities to cope.
I was never EVER rude to a customer, nor even just indifferent -- I stuffed my feelings down, behaved patiently and kindly to ever customer, was yelled at and bullied by the bad customers, kept it all inside and melted down later at home. I know what's involved in working retail and as a customer I'm aware of it. Yet I get these shoddy treatments even though I'm a polite customer who also bends over backward to be an easy to deal with customer.
Retail sucks but just because I've been through it myself, doesn't mean I give a free pass to people who suck at their job's most basic requirement to treat everyone like they at least matter. People say if you judge retail workers it's because you don't know how hard it is -- not it's not. It's because I know how hard it is that I'm not prepared to put up with bad service when I see it.
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