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ZombieBrideXD
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25 Feb 2016, 12:30 am

He was pretty arrogant. The diagnoses is on my file but EVERYTIME a psychyatrist sees it theyre like "who diagnosed you with that?" and i always reply with "i dont know i was like 13 and there was multiple doctors doing the evaluation over the course of many days."

I didn't eat the food he gave me because it had eggs in it. i DESPISE eggs, theyre nasty, the only eggs i can eat is Scrambled and drowned in ketchup. other than that, i will vomit up eggs just from the texture and taste. So i didnt eat the egg sandwhich and he said " why didn't you eat?" I said " i dont like the taste of eggs, everything on this tray is too strong of flavor for me" and he said "coleslaw isn't strong its bland" and i said " no not even close, its nasty" and he just said "they'll deal with you in the psychiatric ward" like Sensory Sensitivity is one of the MAIN symptoms of autism... he should know that.


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25 Feb 2016, 12:51 am

His standard of normality is probably based on himself. It's a hallmark feature of people with egotistical personalities.



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25 Feb 2016, 6:40 am

Keep it simple.


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25 Feb 2016, 8:39 am

cberg wrote:
Keep it simple.

I think this is good advice. Just because someone says or writes or believes something doesn't make it true....or relevant. We have to try to tune out what's bad for us, not hold on wondering why or how to fix it.

If someone seems like a jerk it doesn't necessarily mean what they say is wrong, but it does mean you should not believe them unless there's a good reason to, like a historical precedent of accuracy or extremely good logic.

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time.



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25 Feb 2016, 2:55 pm

You have a name that I love, ZombieBride.

I hope you are able to avoid the hospital in the future. They really don't know much about autism. In most hospitals that are public, they treat the mentally ill atrociously (very badly).

I'm glad that you think of me as a friend. I feel touched by that.



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25 Feb 2016, 3:22 pm

There's one thing I see that's really positive:

You are able to adhere to a budget.



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25 Feb 2016, 4:42 pm

I'm really glad you're back, ZombieBrideXD. I don't know how those places are there, but from your description, they don't sound any better than the ones here in the US. I've had to visit a few people in those wards and it looked awful.

The food thing is one of those SIMPLE autism/NT things that needs to be put in different terms for NT to understand. If the NT person can imagine that they may be eating bugs or fecal matter instead of a food item that is on a NO list for an autistic person, they might start to get it. There will probably never be a circumstance where you NEED to eat eggs, so why try to overcome it? It's stress for no reason.

As to the other stuff about getting a job and whatnot, that's actually what I research. From what I have found, it's common for autistic people to have a lot of trouble getting started in life. Your late teens and early twenties are super, super hard. But after that something clicks and most autistic people are just fine. I think it's a combination of education, experience, and social skills all coming together at the right time. Beyond that, autistic adults seem to do as well or better than non-autistic adults.

It just sounds to me like people are being too hard on you. You're dealing with a lot and what seems like laziness is maybe just unrealistic expectations on other peoples' parts. Maybe they should let some things go and let you find your own way. Just like, support you a little more.



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25 Feb 2016, 5:49 pm

We're dealing with it, somehow things are moving along pretty OK...


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25 Feb 2016, 6:58 pm

Being held prisoner in one of those places is horrible. I was involuntarily committed twice so I am a bit biased. But take anything non constructive they say to you and forget it. There can be positives in those places, I probably wouldn't be alive if I didn't get tossed in there. So if you need help ask for it but no they are not set up for people on the spectrum.



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25 Feb 2016, 7:11 pm

Waterfalls wrote:
cberg wrote:
Keep it simple.

I think this is good advice. Just because someone says or writes or believes something doesn't make it true....or relevant. We have to try to tune out what's bad for us, not hold on wondering why or how to fix it.

If someone seems like a jerk it doesn't necessarily mean what they say is wrong, but it does mean you should not believe them unless there's a good reason to, like a historical precedent of accuracy or extremely good logic.

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time.

I'm sorry the world's having a difficult time, now let's do something about it!


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25 Feb 2016, 7:31 pm

ZombieBrideXD wrote:
He was pretty arrogant. The diagnoses is on my file but EVERYTIME a psychyatrist sees it theyre like "who diagnosed you with that?" and i always reply with "i dont know i was like 13 and there was multiple doctors doing the evaluation over the course of many days."

I didn't eat the food he gave me because it had eggs in it. i DESPISE eggs, theyre nasty, the only eggs i can eat is Scrambled and drowned in ketchup. other than that, i will vomit up eggs just from the texture and taste. So i didnt eat the egg sandwhich and he said " why didn't you eat?" I said " i dont like the taste of eggs, everything on this tray is too strong of flavor for me" and he said "coleslaw isn't strong its bland" and i said " no not even close, its nasty" and he just said "they'll deal with you in the psychiatric ward" like Sensory Sensitivity is one of the MAIN symptoms of autism... he should know that.


I wouldn't have eaten anything on it, either. I only like eggs a certain way, and I have to be the one to cook them. Even then, sometimes it makes me sick. I hate coleslaw, too. I won't even taste it, it's too disgusting.

I usually won't eat things that other people cook (except for some family), especially institutional food. :eew:

Psychiatrists are arrogant. And they love to try to solve all problems with meds, even when it's not necessary or useful.



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25 Feb 2016, 7:59 pm

There is a famous book named "Games People Play" which describes many everyday transactions which seem on the surface well meant though are all forms of manipulation and game-playing.

One of the games is called "I'm Only Trying to Help You", where a power tripper puts another in a subordinate position where the power tripper is coming from the superior judgmental and manipulative attitude of "I know better than you, I am better than you" or as another author put it "I'm ok, you're not ok". When the target complains, the persecutor then claims innocence "Oh I was only trying to help you". People can espouse good reasons for what they do to disguise real reasons for what they do - in this case, to elevate themselves by putting someone else down.

Dated though the book now is, it still has a lot to teach about these malicious games which come clothed in honeyed tones. It also pays to bear in mind that help can often be the sunny face of control in certain circumstances. Some of these games are played blindly - ie neither the gameplayer nor the victim are aware of the racket going on. I grew up with a master manipulator so I had years to study her underhand egotistical tactics even before the book came out and what a moment of recognition reading it was.. Power for her was making others feel powerless and inferior in contrast to her "perfect" self. Ugh. Now I know that is a sign of personality disorder, most usually a cluster B sociopathic one like narcissistic personality disorder.

I think it would benefit many of us to study these things and practice spotting these everyday games as a form of self protection.
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