Do you consider your autism a disability?

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Do you consider your autism a disability?
Yes, all the way 30%  30%  [ 13 ]
Some parts of it 55%  55%  [ 24 ]
No, not at all 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
Other (elaborate in reply) 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
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04 Aug 2020, 9:11 pm

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My real disability is my brain's and body's state that I've been coping and figuring out how to treat, not my neurology or systems.

More like my stomach, my sleep, my hormones, my intolerances, my thresholds and whatever vulnerabilities' reaction I end up with.

That may or may not include possibilities of overlooked learning disabilities and difficulties that I happened to worked around very well.


So yeah, I'm disabled.
But I intend to be a very well compensated disabled more than capable of taking care of myself, instead of a helpless one.

[color=#0077aa] so you are saying autism isnt' a disability but everything associated with autism is. :roll:

First, I speak for myself.

And, no. :twisted: Autism is still a disability.
Comorbidities and damn them.
I don't deny this exists entangled with autism, but which do you think is more disabling than just autism itself?

Science had yet to solve this entanglement completely.
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But I intend to be a very well compensated disabled more than capable of taking care of myself, instead of a helpless one.

Compensation in context of overpowering or mitigating one's handicap or deficits through other means.

This is not the same boat as savantism or autistics' novelty of special interests with social models.
But more on the lines of adaptation and equipping in order to function. :lol:


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04 Aug 2020, 11:17 pm

Edna3362 wrote:
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My real disability is my brain's and body's state that I've been coping and figuring out how to treat, not my neurology or systems.

More like my stomach, my sleep, my hormones, my intolerances, my thresholds and whatever vulnerabilities' reaction I end up with.

That may or may not include possibilities of overlooked learning disabilities and difficulties that I happened to worked around very well.


So yeah, I'm disabled.
But I intend to be a very well compensated disabled more than capable of taking care of myself, instead of a helpless one.

so you are saying autism isnt' a disability but everything associated with autism is. :roll:

First, I speak for myself.

And, no. :twisted: Autism is still a disability.
Comorbidities and damn them.
I don't deny this exists entangled with autism, but which do you think is more disabling than just autism itself?

Science had yet to solve this entanglement completely.
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But I intend to be a very well compensated disabled more than capable of taking care of myself, instead of a helpless one.

Compensation in context of overpowering or mitigating one's handicap or deficits through other means.

This is not the same boat as savantism or autistics' novelty of special interests with social models.
But more on the lines of adaptation and equipping in order to function. :lol:
[color=#0077aa] REally depends on the comorbid. like social anxiety autism is defnitiely wores. Schizophrenia probably schizophrenia.


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05 Aug 2020, 2:18 am

It's a disability as far as you mentally don't get other people or have comorbids like a bad body control or sensory issues or anxieties that are out of control. Most people are able to improve a bit at most of this even that anybody has very own limits of course. Never give up yourself! Negativity is an issue of your own way of thinking only that you have to fight on your own!


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05 Aug 2020, 5:05 am

I have always considered autism a *social* disability. 8)



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05 Aug 2020, 5:09 am

dragonsanddemons wrote:
Because of my autism, I can’t work, can’t drive, can’t take care of myself by myself and will probably never live on my own, and can’t even reliably speak understandably/at all. The only benefit I seem to have gotten was the stereotypical Aspie memory, until I was almost through high school, but I didn’t keep it at all after that, not by a long shot (now I’ve been known to actively be watching TV and forget which show is on during commercial breaks :oops: ). So at least now, I’d say my autism is absolutely a disability and I really don’t get any benefits in return.


Do you find you are more rational/intellectual than the average NT?
I am. ;)



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05 Aug 2020, 5:23 am

I don't consider myself to be disabled by my condition.

But I don't drive, flunked out of college, and have lost every job I've tried. My rooms are often a mess despite legit efforts to clean, and my plans are woefully disorganized despite a bunch of lists and resolutions.


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05 Aug 2020, 7:36 am

Autism is nearly always a disability , also depends where you live as to how one feels about that.

Living in US / Europe with access to a computer, got a routine & family waiting on you all day with little worry about the basics of life can be pretty manageable to some, who want to claim autism is just a difference.

Living in Calcutta competing against deformed and blind street beggars for food money because your family have abandoned you brain differences not so cool anymore.


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05 Aug 2020, 8:08 am

I mainly experience disabling aspects of my autistic traits as "spoons" - getting drained by activities not even noticed by NTs, especially when there is some social or sensory aspect about them (groceries!)
On the other hand, I like my mind. Hyperfocus, intellectual precision and attention to detail are valid parts of me, very useful when doing science. Resistance to herd mentality was a pain at school but in adult life, it gives me a lot of respect for independent thinking.


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05 Aug 2020, 8:19 am

Yes.

Regardless of whether or not some benefit has been conferred to me via special interests or "seeing things differently", I consider it to be a disability. Even my "special interests" are a disability considering that others have judged me negatively for them and thought of me as a broken record.


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05 Aug 2020, 8:46 am

A person who was in the same school house but a year above me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Helm

A person in same year,same birthdate, but different school house .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tyrie

Then there's me as described in my 1st comment .



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05 Aug 2020, 2:51 pm

dragonsanddemons wrote:
Because of my autism, I can’t work, can’t drive, can’t take care of myself by myself and will probably never live on my own, and can’t even reliably speak understandably/at all. The only benefit I seem to have gotten was the stereotypical Aspie memory, until I was almost through high school, but I didn’t keep it at all after that, not by a long shot (now I’ve been known to actively be watching TV and forget which show is on during commercial breaks :oops: ). So at least now, I’d say my autism is absolutely a disability and I really don’t get any benefits in return.

I rather have no problems with speaking understandably. But I am poorer in spoken language than in written, especially when I use a foreign language like English (in it there are many sounds that are absent in my mother tongue).

I rather can't work occupationally in normal way (and it seems that it will not change later in my life). I have never driven a car. I think that I appear partial help with independent living and it also looks that I will not live on my own in my future life. I have never had a close friend and, more importantly, a girlfriend (candidate for my wife) and it appears that I will be unable to marriage to my death. This may be the most painful for my nature because it craves having romantic relationship and intimate physical contact with own spouse (although my "superego" wants lifelong celibacy). I suppose that I am even more unable to be a priest or monk.

I had easier in schools than most peers because of being academically talented, having high IQ (at least verbal), good verbatim memory, lack of dyscalculia and dysgraphia. Despite it I suppose that in USA or Canada I would have been diagnosed with NVLD instead of PDD or ASD.



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05 Aug 2020, 3:04 pm

During my time on the job I considered my quirkiness (late in life diagnosis) an asset. Being retired and with a full diagnosis, this quirkiness of OCD and Asperger's is more of an annoyance.


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05 Aug 2020, 6:31 pm

Once I got my sensitivities to (mostly) calm down, and I figured out a few social tools to keep me from being bullied at work, it became less of a "disability" and more like just being left handed in a right handed world.


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05 Aug 2020, 8:00 pm

Whale_Tuune wrote:
Yes.

Regardless of whether or not some benefit has been conferred to me via special interests or "seeing things differently", I consider it to be a disability. Even my "special interests" are a disability considering that others have judged me negatively for them and thought of me as a broken record.


Join the club.
I repeat myself all the time.
I have come to the conclusion it is a form of mental "Stimming". ;)

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We tend to look at repetitive speech is something slightly different than what is typically seen as a stim, but when you look at Forshaw’s description—for me speech sure fills the bill. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... peech-stim



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06 Aug 2020, 9:54 pm

Pepe wrote:
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Yes.

Regardless of whether or not some benefit has been conferred to me via special interests or "seeing things differently", I consider it to be a disability. Even my "special interests" are a disability considering that others have judged me negatively for them and thought of me as a broken record.


Join the club.
I repeat myself all the time.
I have come to the conclusion it is a form of mental "Stimming". ;)

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We tend to look at repetitive speech is something slightly different than what is typically seen as a stim, but when you look at Forshaw’s description—for me speech sure fills the bill. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... peech-stim

Idk for me It's just I forget that i already told them that and I tell everything to everyone.


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07 Aug 2020, 2:17 pm

Personally, I think being excessively social and emotional is a disability, but those people are the majority and got to write the diagnostic manual...