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17 Feb 2021, 11:07 am

Subjective autobiographies, while interesting to read, are not exactly scientific in their scope and focus.



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17 Feb 2021, 11:11 am

If an author of the autobiography is a "true member," the author will acknowledge this. That he/she is not infallible.

Most advice here is given at an anecdotal level; people convey their own experiences and incorporate their own experiences when they are giving advice. The "peer review" involves people who have had similar experiences, or could imagine similar experiences.



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17 Feb 2021, 11:32 am

I feel, perhaps, that MarkOrbit is one fortunate guy!



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17 Feb 2021, 11:57 am

Fnord wrote:
Subjective autobiographies, while interesting to read, are not exactly scientific in their scope and focus.


It's not an autobiography.


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17 Feb 2021, 12:16 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Subjective autobiographies, while interesting to read, are not exactly scientific in their scope and focus.
It's not an autobiography.
Since you did not specify a particular book, I had to assume that you had referred to any one of her autobiographic accounts.  To which were you referring?



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17 Feb 2021, 12:18 pm

Fnord wrote:
Since you did not specify a particular book, I had to assume that you had referred to any one of her autobiographic accounts.  To which were you referring?


I'm referring to the one that I specified:


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Hi Mark,

Yes I have that all the time. It's so common for me, it's like a default way of sensing the world.

Have you ever read Autism and Sensing: The Unlost Instinct, by Donna Williams?

I highly recommend it.


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17 Feb 2021, 12:20 pm

I predicted you all would say that...



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17 Feb 2021, 12:24 pm

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... Autism and Sensing: The Unlost Instinct, by Donna Williams ...
Oh, that one.  It is clearly about the author's own subjective experiences, and not the objectively-studied biomechanics of her perception.  The author was a teacher, not a scientist.  Besides, I prefer books that are clearly either fictional or factual, and not New-Age esoterical.



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17 Feb 2021, 12:25 pm

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I predicted you all would say that...
Yet your alleged prediction comes out only after the fact.



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17 Feb 2021, 12:27 pm

Ah, so my experiences and contributions here aren't valid, if they don't match yours.

Gotcha. I must have forgotten the rules.


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17 Feb 2021, 12:35 pm

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Ah, so my experiences and contributions here aren't valid, if they don't match yours.  Gotcha...
Not at all.  Your experiences, by definition, are valid only to you, just as mine are valid only to me.  Trying to assert that one person's subjective experiences are valid for all of reality is where absurdity enters the discussion.  That is why I ask for proof -- so that your experiences will also be valid for me.  But until that happens, your experiences are invalid for me and mine are invalid for you.

Do you see how that works?



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17 Feb 2021, 12:52 pm

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Trying to assert that one person's subjective experiences are valid for all of reality is where absurdity enters the discussion.  That is why I ask for proof -- so that your experiences will also be valid for me.  But until that happens, your experiences are invalid for me and mine are invalid for you.

Do you see how that works?


I did not assert that one person's experiences are "valid for all of reality".

You're joking, right?

Where do I say that?

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... Nor did I express any "opinion" at all about predictions, or why they happen. I only said they do.

I didn't claim that the propensity for predicting things means that it is supernatural, that it is mystical, that it precludes science, or that I understand how / why this happens.



Nor did I say that Donna Williams' observations are true, proven through science, or "valid for all reality".
In fact, I didn't say anything about her book except that it was interesting, and that I could relate to it:

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Autistic people are known to have more likelihood of sensory processing disorders and other sensory phenomena such as synasthaesia. The book is interesting, and speaks to my personal experiences ... I highly recommend it.


Again I'll reiterate that this is not PPR. The OP only asked if anyone can relate.

He didn't ask how or why it happens, or if it is valid for all. No one said that it was.


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17 Feb 2021, 12:57 pm

There is no need for you to be on the defensive, 'Bella.  I relate my experiences, and ask for validation for the experiences of others -- this is not an attack; it is a method of inquiry.  Inquiry-based learning encourages active interest and inspires creativity.  If questioning subjective accounts is offensive, then what use is learning?  Since you cannot support your claims, then simply let us move on.



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17 Feb 2021, 1:16 pm

I don't necessarily believe in a psychic ability to predict something is going to happen, but sometimes I am able to use reasoning and my knowledge of certain situations to expect the right outcome.

Like, after having a conversation with someone about something, I can sometimes look at their body language and tell that they're thinking about someone/something specific that's loosely related. People think it's weird I can do that and say I predicted their thoughts, but I'm just observant and learn what kind of topics trigger other topics with certain people and how they react to them. People and situations have patterns that they don't really notice.



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17 Feb 2021, 1:23 pm

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I don't necessarily believe in a psychic ability to predict something is going to happen, but sometimes I am able to use reasoning and my knowledge of certain situations to expect the right outcome.

Like, after having a conversation with someone about something, I can sometimes look at their body language and tell that they're thinking about someone/something specific that's loosely related. People think it's weird I can do that and say I predicted their thoughts, but I'm just observant and learn what kind of topics trigger other topics with certain people and how they react to them. People and situations have patterns that they don't really notice.
What you relate is called "Cold Reading".  It is the core practice of store-front "psychics" and people like Sylvia Browne and James Van Praagh.



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17 Feb 2021, 1:33 pm

Fnord wrote:
HeroOfHyrule wrote:
I don't necessarily believe in a psychic ability to predict something is going to happen, but sometimes I am able to use reasoning and my knowledge of certain situations to expect the right outcome.

Like, after having a conversation with someone about something, I can sometimes look at their body language and tell that they're thinking about someone/something specific that's loosely related. People think it's weird I can do that and say I predicted their thoughts, but I'm just observant and learn what kind of topics trigger other topics with certain people and how they react to them. People and situations have patterns that they don't really notice.
What you relate is called "Cold Reading".  It is the core practice of store-front "psychics" and people like Sylvia Browne and James Van Praagh.

Yup. That's why I don't believe in psychics, because I know it's all just knowing certain patterns, reading body language, etc. It's actually irritating when people suggest I can predict things because it's just simply me being observant.