Anyone give meds to teens for anxiety or any adults use it?

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17 Aug 2008, 11:07 am

One doctor did recommend Risperdal, but that medication scares me and we declined. I have a bother-in-law with permanant very visible whole body motor tics caused by anti-psychotics. I won't try those.

I was on SSRI's for anxiety and it did well for me, but I don't know how it will do for my son. I don't know if anxiety in AS is relieved with SSRI's. I hope so. The other problem is that I don't know how much of it for him is really anxiety or just regular AS stuff.



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17 Aug 2008, 11:09 am

Why does everything good has side effects :|

what will happen if i get rid of anxiety?



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17 Aug 2008, 1:02 pm

uhm, hate to tell you but your son would be better off if you got him into program or with a therapist that taught him social skills and how to handle being in social situations. Psych meds are posion that will lead your son down a bath of ultimate madness and permant disability. If you really need something for anxiety check out your local health food store. Try magnesium or a mulitherbal formula including passion flower, chamomile, valerian, cohosh, kava kava, lobelia.

Try to get him into a special educational program for him being over whelmed in school

Were you informed by you psych about the addictive nature of all psych drugs, withdrawal that can last years, the risk of mania psychosis and suicide, of drug induced cushings, diabetes and thyroid problems?

you mentioned mood problems, try fishoil and getting his thyroid checked



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17 Aug 2008, 1:11 pm

Benzodiazapines could help. These are taken just to deal with situational anxiety. Not good to take them everyday - no harm if taken a couple of days a week. Giving him medication that will resolve some of his anxiety seems like a kind thing to do --- to me.



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17 Aug 2008, 1:15 pm

benzos? dont. they are highly dangerous, and can produce rapid addiction in just a few days.
stick with mother nature.



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17 Aug 2008, 1:17 pm

how do you cure them without medications then cause i realy would like to know?



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17 Aug 2008, 1:19 pm

Its called ICAM, integrative complementary and alertative medicine.
Try a naturopath



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17 Aug 2008, 1:25 pm

so then where do i get the "herb" and "food"?



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17 Aug 2008, 1:47 pm

nightbender wrote:
Were you informed by you psych about the addictive nature of all psych drugs, withdrawal that can last years, the risk of mania psychosis and suicide, of drug induced cushings, diabetes and thyroid problems?



This is simply not true. It is irresponsible to spread disinformation because of some bias. Some psych drugs are addictive like benzos, some herbs like weed are addictive. SSRIs and SRIs are not addictive and withdrawal is minimal.

Some herbs are addictive and harmful. Some drugs are addictive and harmful.

These are factually and logically correct statements.

All drugs are harmful and addictive is illogical and factually untrue.

Naturopath? :roll:



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17 Aug 2008, 2:37 pm

My prescriptions: 1) Clonazepam (in diazepam family), anti-anxiety & mild anti-seizure. 2) SSRI (Lexapro), mostly for anxiety, to regulate my serotonin uptake level. I am nightmare prone and diagnosed with sleepwalking disorder. SSRI's can and do help with this real problem.

Firstly, for clarity: I do not like having to take medicine and would prefer not too. However, without my medication my functioning drops and significantly. Clonazepam is a necessity for me; I am mily seizure-prone (given that I am autistic - parallels to seizure-prone but due my neuropathy). Clonazepam helps with meltdowns which are problematic for me! SSRI does help regulate/modulate. I am highly conscientious about taking my prescriptions and conservative in my approach - and, yes, in general (with some exceptions) neuroleptics are not indicated for those with autism.

I do understand some feel strongly about naturopathy and the 'no medicine approach.' A personal choice, and that's fine. But remember there is a balance between functioning well and 'doing without.' There is a lot of misunderstanding about pharmaeuticals too - the meds I am taking, for instance, are chemical speciation with already exist within me but my chemical (ie: uptake, regulation) is not in proper equilibrium. This is when meds are appropriate and help.

I guess one who is a proponent of 'no meds!' could consider if a child has an ear infection, for example, a course of antibiotics can cure the problem. To NOT treat an infection, and antibiotics can CURE, may well result in further damage such as undue pain, even sustained hearing loss. You choose.

For ex: I've had pneumonia. Yes, I could NOT do the antibiotic route, which would directly equates to my hospitalization and worsening of condition (need I remind you people can and do die from pneumonia). Now see below:

I am a TB convertor (I'm an Alaskan! It's a problem here). I was given INH to prevent infection and safeguard myself from future full-blown TB. I am thankful for the INH - I don't need the alternative. I want to function and live, not suffer.

corroonb is correct, just because it's 'herbal' does not necessarily mean it's not deletorious! There are real side-effects with herbal remedies too, just like any medicine, even OTC. Geez...even Tylenol and any common-cold OTC meds can cause damage if not taken properly. Keep that in mind.

I agree behavioral therapy may be order. But remember this doesn't 'fix' a chemical imbalance. Neuro/psych professionals know this and will prescribe as indicated, and judiciously. This is justifiable.


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17 Aug 2008, 2:50 pm

corroonb wrote:
Callista wrote:
One caution with medication for Asperger's: Many doctors will try to prescribe a neuroleptic to autistic people, especially Risperdal. These are drugs of last resort, with serious side effects; think very carefully before you try them.


I would second this opinion. Anti-psychotics have way too many side-effects to be prescribed to people who are not psychotic.


I'm going to third this opinion. Late in my teen years I was going through a difficult time emotionally and my psychiatrist at the time gave me Risperdal, simply because she thought that's what autistic people should be given, and kept unnecessarily upping the dose even though I really improved on the minimum dose. I gained over 30 pounds in 4 months and developed tics that only went away when I stopped it.

What really helps me with my anxiety is Zoloft, and I only need a low dose of it, 50 mg. I also have Xanax that I take on an as needed basis for severe anxiety flares, but I've needed it much less in the last few years than I used to.



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17 Aug 2008, 6:10 pm

corroonb wrote:
nightbender wrote:
Were you informed by you psych about the addictive nature of all psych drugs, withdrawal that can last years, the risk of mania psychosis and suicide, of drug induced cushings, diabetes and thyroid problems?



This is simply not true. It is irresponsible to spread disinformation because of some bias. Some psych drugs are addictive like benzos, some herbs like weed are addictive. SSRIs and SRIs are not addictive and withdrawal is minimal.

Some herbs are addictive and harmful. Some drugs are addictive and harmful.

These are factually and logically correct statements.

All drugs are harmful and addictive is illogical and factually untrue.

Naturopath? :roll:


your misinformed all psychotropic drugs are highly addictive, im in constant contact with people who have failed repeatly to get of ssris, and the withdrawal can be extremely severe

any drug that manipulates nueroreceptors produces dependanace and tolerance

actually all psychiatric drugs are harmbul and addictive is logical and factually true.
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[quote/]Naturopath? :roll[/quote]:roll
dont nock things you know nothing about
holistic medicine is superior to conventional in all things except for things where you have been in a car crash and puncutred al lung

you should not buy into big pharma lies. telling people that ssris can be easily stopped is informartion that could cause someoneto die. btw ssris are chemically related to cocaine

what make psych drugs not medicine is that the therapuetic dose is exactly the same as the toxic dose.

herbs are just one facet of icam. your forgeting naturpathic supplements, homeopathics.

herbs like cannabis are addictive :P
but for the most part herbs are not addictive
chinese herbs need close supervision by a trained tcm in strict dosages


you are so uniformed its not funny. The fact you resort to sweeping generalizations and equivications means you know nothing.



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17 Aug 2008, 6:23 pm

nightbender wrote:
corroonb wrote:
nightbender wrote:
Were you informed by you psych about the addictive nature of all psych drugs, withdrawal that can last years, the risk of mania psychosis and suicide, of drug induced cushings, diabetes and thyroid problems?



This is simply not true. It is irresponsible to spread disinformation because of some bias. Some psych drugs are addictive like benzos, some herbs like weed are addictive. SSRIs and SRIs are not addictive and withdrawal is minimal.

Some herbs are addictive and harmful. Some drugs are addictive and harmful.

These are factually and logically correct statements.

All drugs are harmful and addictive is illogical and factually untrue.

Naturopath? :roll:


your misinformed all psychotropic drugs are highly addictive, im in constant contact with people who have failed repeatly to get of ssris, and the withdrawal can be extremely severe

any drug that manipulates nueroreceptors produces dependanace and tolerance

actually all psychiatric drugs are harmbul and addictive is logical and factually true.

[quote/]Naturopath? :roll[/quote]:roll
dont nock things you know nothing about
holistic medicine is superior to conventional in all things except for things where you have been in a car crash and puncutred al lung

you should by into big pharma lies. telling people that ssris can be easily stopped is informartion that could cause someoneto die. [/quote]

I don't think I need to argue with someone who denies the proof offered by science.

Holistic medicine is largely nonsense sold to ignorant and vulnerable people. Some of it may work but much of it is non-scientific voodoo.

Holistic medicine will not save you from cancer and it will not help schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder.

What evidence do you have that all drugs are dangerous and addictive? Saying something is not evidence by the way.



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17 Aug 2008, 6:24 pm

I have taken paroxetine (SSRI), 10 mg a day, for 8 consecutive months (the original prescription was 20, but it was too much for me). It helped, reducing both general and social anxiety, stabilizing my mood, making social life way more comfortable, increasing focus, more generally making me better (downside some kind of emotional flatness but that's DEFINITELY better than depression). Then I decided to stop because the idea of taking meds didn't sound good to me. 0 withdrawal simptoms. It was a BAD idea, I returned to my basic status, restarted and stopped 5 times and now I've finally decided to stay on it.



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17 Aug 2008, 7:09 pm

corroonb wrote:
nightbender wrote:
corroonb wrote:
nightbender wrote:
Were you informed by you psych about the addictive nature of all psych drugs, withdrawal that can last years, the risk of mania psychosis and suicide, of drug induced cushings, diabetes and thyroid problems?



This is simply not true. It is irresponsible to spread disinformation because of some bias. Some psych drugs are addictive like benzos, some herbs like weed are addictive. SSRIs and SRIs are not addictive and withdrawal is minimal.

Some herbs are addictive and harmful. Some drugs are addictive and harmful.

These are factually and logically correct statements.

All drugs are harmful and addictive is illogical and factually untrue.

Naturopath? :roll:


your misinformed all psychotropic drugs are highly addictive, im in constant contact with people who have failed repeatly to get of ssris, and the withdrawal can be extremely severe

any drug that manipulates nueroreceptors produces dependanace and tolerance

actually all psychiatric drugs are harmbul and addictive is logical and factually true.

[quote/]Naturopath? :roll
:roll
dont nock things you know nothing about
holistic medicine is superior to conventional in all things except for things where you have been in a car crash and puncutred al lung

you should by into big pharma lies. telling people that ssris can be easily stopped is informartion that could cause someoneto die. [/quote]

I don't think I need to argue with someone who denies the proof offered by science.

Holistic medicine is largely nonsense sold to ignorant and vulnerable people. Some of it may work but much of it is non-scientific voodoo.

Holistic medicine will not save you from cancer and it will not help schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder.

What evidence do you have that all drugs are dangerous and addictive? Saying something is not evidence by the way.[/quote]

you have it backwards
holistic medicine will save people from cancer and it is the only effective treatment for biplor and shizophrenia(btw teh way its funny you quote schizophrienia, british journal of medicines says does exist)

first lets start with homepathics, they are built on the well documented process called hormeisis

the rest im going to have get back to on in a few days.



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17 Aug 2008, 7:21 pm

finding those studies is a bit difficult to economic realities. Only big pharma has the bucks to conduct double blind studies.