Losing Aspie tendencies when using certain drugs

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The open-mindedness you're applauding is part of my 'Scientific' approach to any controversial subject - check out the facts on my own, then come to an opinion, but leave that opinion open for modification when further relevant and verifiable data is forthcoming.

I can not whole-heartedly and with a clear conscience agree with the prevailing 'If It Feels Good, Then Do It' philosophy of self-medication, especially when it comes to the more risky substances - like alcohol, marijuana, tobacco, and salvia - and in such cases a certain amount of negativity is unavoidable.

I will 'keep my nose out of another's choice' up to the moment that some stoner presents a clear and imminent danger to himself, myself, my loved ones, or others. I have narc'ed on a fair amount of stoners in the military (who reeked of marijuana when reporting back from leave or liberty) and in civilian life (when finding out that a neighbor was selling drugs to children to support his own habit), and on the job (drunken co-workers operating aerial lifts and other equipment).

I will also take this opportunity to warn WP members that if they brag or advocate the use of illegal substances, they risk being found out by any law-enforcement officer who just happens to be browsing this website. IP addresses are easy to come by, and so are search warrants...

Some of the risks of illegal drug use are arrest, conviction, and jail time. Are those risks really acceptable to anyone, or do they just think that they will never get caught?

is not just an aspie thing,am interact [to a level] with people am know well after taking strong co codomol,yet without it they mostly do not exist.
not looking good because doctor is stopping the drug soon to replace it with a useless one [that wont even help the pain conditions am have,staff want to stop it for stupid reasons],it means am will go back to being old self which is ok but being interactive means am dont get ignored or neglected like am was at previous home before starting the drug,none of the staff here know this tablet helps a lot more than pain,they often even say to each other something is wrong with am [when have not had any painkillers] because am dont interact with them,they didnt know what am was like before taking the drug as had started getting it a long time ago.

I find that I'm much quicker in response after 1-2 beers, I also get a LOT more social and less anxious. I wouldn't recommend it though cause it's easy to go overboard with drinking and that's when all the aspie traits are back, plus alcohol is a major depressant, at least in my case.

I enrolled at university a month a ago and have been drinking pretty heavily a few times per week. I agree, the risks are there, especially if you're alone and don't have anyone watching you're drinking habits.

However, this has helped me a being social a great deal, and I've had pretty fun over all. It's a dilemma. These first four weeks has offered a lot of welcome activities for us new students arranged by older students. It has probably been the most fun period of my life, and I've enjoyed socialising more than I usually do. Of course this is not thanks to the alcohol. It is thanks to the nice geeks I've met. But the alcohol made me more outgoing and less self-aware (probably less responsible and less reasonable over all ), therefore has helped me.

But it does obviously NOT make me less of an aspie. Some people seems to claim that alcohol makes them "more NT", but I think it's just their own distorted perception when drunk.

Now there are no more such "new student activities", and I have more or less stopped drinking again, or at least drink much more rarely. Otherwise it'd be too great a risk for my health. And my studies for that matter.

plus, with the systembolaget you guys have there you would go broke pretty quickly I guess ;p

To the OP, I think he's refering to E, and have experienced the same thing. An increase in seritonin goes a long way towards sociability and empathy.

Not so sure about that. Let me get a few things straight:
1) I can not shop at Systembolaget, since is has a minimum age of 20, enforced by law.
2) Though some adults sell to foreigners under 20. Which obviously is profitable, illegal, and IMHO unacceptable. And it's also legal to import huge amounts of both beer and stronger alcohol to the country. (Cheap.) If you don't sell it. *

So, I haven't drunk System-alcohol. I've bought from bars, or (cheap*) from older students.
Some alcoholic drinks were also included in our fee for the events for new students.
But yeah, it has been a lot of money. Not sure how much though. I don't want to know.

I hope I answered your question.

*Go figure.

One thing that needs to be addressed immediately - advocacy is not a crime. Possession of illegal substances and paraphernalia is. While your concern and warning is appreciated, and necessary given the content of some of the posts I have seen, it was somewhat overdone in my estimation.

A scientific approach is a good thing, although I do not find it necessarily useful in application of social behaviours... To each their own. That you research is a great thing; I do not find that one's opinion should dictate public policy... despite how many good ideas I have. *laugh* You have to make your own decisions on being involved with others; while I have spoken in instances of public safety... it does not interest or behoove me to decide how another person lives their life. Just a difference of opinion, liking honed through our respective experiences. Are those risks acceptable? Not particularly, but neither are they appropriate.


M.

yeah I know more about SB than I would like to... and I learned the hard way LOL
whenever I'm in Sweden I just stick to Kopparberg I always feel obliged to bring over some cheap booze from across the pond though ;p

Ohkey, i see.

My husbands drug and alchohol abuse, covered his AS. HIs violent and anti-social behaviour was considered drug related, leading to several convictions and 3 spells in prision for several years. He was considered a menace to society. HIs obsessive use of speed, coacaine and ectasy may have made him feel more "normal" but as many have posted here, this normality was still considered inapropreate.

When full of drugs for often weeks on end, he would be lost in a world even more removed from mine. But he felt "conected" in some way.

The reality of such great high feelings, is that the bigger the jump... the harder the ground. And when you come back to earth after a bender, there is usually a horrid mess............

Tonight we are drug free, but with over half a bottle of brandy in his belly, and sleeping tablets, and tramodol, he is asleep like a baby. But tomorrow will still come with all its devils.

Drugs........ my opinion, long term, destroy, not help.

The belief that psychotropic drug use makes or enables some people to be or feel 'normal' is a delusion. Instead, a person's perceptions of what is 'normal' are shifted without them actually acquiring anything like 'normal' behavior.

Of course, there are exceptions, but as In-a-dark-tunnel's post shows, drug use only covers up one form of inappropriate behaviour with another...

... Or maybe just anesthetizes them from their pain so that they don't have to deal with it.

... Or maybe just puts them into such a stuporous state that they can't hurt anyone.

Which, sadly, is what much of Western medicine does - mask symptoms, obscure it behind another sensation. The pharmaceuticals, while more rigorously controlled and tested, do much the same as these illicit substances... in my own experience, while the prescribed medications may create a perception of normalcy for others, it places me in a state of distress - almost the mirror of what individuals are describing with cannabis. As for other drugs... while I think Ecstasy may have some merit in analog states, substances such as coke, meth, etc., hold no therapeutic value in my mind. The psychedelics are a realm better left to philosophy, because one may argue that either the original or altered state holds more value.


M.

spot on comment. Although I am of this "planet" I am of this "world", when married to someone with AS, I find it crazy that we in "the world" cant see the insite people with AS have?????????

no wounder you lot get fed up!

Personally, I'd rather handle my problems in the traditional manly way, which is to just bear down and deal with it until the problem passes. No drugs, no violence, no gluttony - just get through it with all my faculties clear and intact.

Suffering is inevitable; Misery is optional.

Cannot change how we feel, only what we choose to do about it.


M.