Do You Dislike Jocks Or Feel Intimidated By Them?

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When I was in high school I didn't know what cliques were, let alone separating people into groups like "jocks," "nerds," etc. When I heard labels like that I heard them as individual things describing individual people. I'm not sure when I picked the idea of cliques up, probably in my early 20s when I learned so many other things. I don't think it really gelled until my late 20s, though.

Last edited by Verdandi on 11 Apr 2011, 3:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I don't remember hearing of them either. The first time I really heard the term much was people describing themselves as jocks, one of them a very close friend (who also happens to be autistic).

I definitely remember hearing it in The Breakfast Club, which came out while I was in high school. It was actually kind of enlightening as to social dynamics, although it didn't seem to have much relevance to what I saw in high school.

My middle school communications class actually had a unit on cliques, where students were taught what these social groups were and how they operated, so I think I understood the concept abstractly, but I don't think I was ever really aware of them in school. I was always afraid of being labeled a "geek" or "nerd," not because I was afraid to be associated with a geek/nerd clique, but because I didn't like the label.

This is an excellent post TTRSage. I agree with you 100%. It doesn't seem like many people understand what a jock is.

I like sports, and play lots of sports.People who play sports are not necessarily jocks. People play sports because they like it, jocks play sports because winning is everything to them, which is why jocks tend to play dirty if they start losing.

Also, love the connection of jocks to politicians. Both love to be worshiped.

I have no opinion of them. I looked the word up and it's an athletic person so why would I be annoyed by them? But the stuff you listed about them sounded annoying but it's those people that are annoying, not jocks. I don't wish to lump them into a group and say they are all like that. I find that bothering.

WOOOOO PAAAAARTY!! !! WOOOHOOOO GET DRUNK!! !! USA! USA! USA! USA! YEAAAHHH GO STEELERS!! !

...why aren't you cheering? Ya gay bro?

Thanks for your vote of confidence. I was beginning to think that I had stirred up a real hornet's nest among some users here.

For those who feel that it is intolerant to not simply tolerate the way that jocks treat us, I can only say this. If you feel like laying down on the ground and allowing the jocks to walk all over you, malign you and do everything in their power to infuriate you, then go right ahead. I have never been one to just roll over and play dead when they do this to me. Instead I usually bite back when bitten but only after being gnawed on for a very long time. I have always put up with far more abuse than any normal person would accept but eventually my wrath comes flying out all at once. That is what a meltdown consists of anyhow. Someone here said something to the effect of out-jocking the jocks, which is more or less what I do... involuntarily.

On the remote island where I used to live and work for many years, the jocks would do their damndest to get under my skin because I had a huge target on my back. Sometimes they would succeed and trigger what could probably be called a meltdown in me (although in general I tend to have shutdowns rather than meltdowns). I would go ranting and raving back at them with all of my best Aspie logic and end up making them all look like sniveling cowards for their own failure to be able to say to my face the same lies that they were obsessed with saying behind my back. The fact that one person could stand up to them and do this to them when it took all of them to get to me made them feel rather small at times. But as Aspies we are accustomed to standing alone. In time people actually came to fear me so much that they would often send some brave emissary across the street each morning to the building where I hid out to see what kind of mood I was in each day before any of the rest of them would dare to venture over to my area.

Sometimes all of us Aspies need to simply stop going with the flow, learn to stand up for ourselves and say, "I'm Mad as Hell, and I won't Take It Anymore". I saw on the news yesterday that Sidney Lumet, the director of that movie (Network... 1976) died the other day so that line is fresh in my mind.

I'm neutral about "jocks" in general, since I play sports and it's rare to find someone who fits the jock stereotype. Now, there are the idiots that ruin things for the rest of us, and I'm thinking of those thugs who beat up a Giants fan, or the vandalism after the Lakers won the championship.

I don't think I could categorize those who bullied me in one clique or another. I'm not sure what common trait they shared other than "Verdandi looks like someone we can f**k with and get away with it."

I never argued that jocks aren't intolerant, obnoxious, bigoted people. By definition, they are. What I'm arguing is that you're not nearly as different from them as you'd like to think. Far from being polar opposites, you're a different variation on the exact same personality type.

And, again, to be a business leader in the modern world, you need to be intelligent, individualistic, and possessed of a strong will. Jocks are notably averse to all three. It wouldn't surprise me too much to see them filling out the ranks of middle management, but their incapability to plan long-term and make the crowd work towards their will instead of vice-versa means that they will not last more than a few years while leading a company, and they probably won't get that afar in the first place.

Dumb ass jocks.

What about the bimbo? Is she the female version of jock? I kinda like them

Anyone who would say that should walk a mile in my shoes and tolerate the 60 years of abuse that I have experienced at the hands of these jocks. It is little different from the unfeeling NT who scolds an Aspie for having a meltdown while telling them to shape up and act normally. And I'm sure there are plenty of people here who can tell even more harrowing stories.

Take the following real life experience as an example... and this is one of the lesser ones. My dad has a devastating stroke on Christmas eve (1990... that puts him in the hospital for the final 7 years of his life). I am stuck 5000 miles away with no way at all of being by his side and everybody knows about it (there were no secrets in that small place). At dinner on Christmas I was in a very somber mood as a result and a particularly aggressive and hateful (I would not be the least bit surprised to see one of these guys in a KKK gown) group of jocks is sitting at the next table doing their best to rub salt into my wounds. The worst of these jocks (named "Mock" no less) starts guffawing at me and says loudly, "Oh, there's nothing wrong with him... he's only worried that he might DIE... heee-haww, heee-haww, heee-haww". How would you react to such an experience and how would you react to those who suggested that it was intolerant to dislike those who treated you in this manner. Only a masochist would welcome such mistreatment with open arms and fail to be intolerant of being treated in that way.

My mouth wood probably get me in trouble
if said jock had no sense of humour.

I cood reply something like "Hee Haw?"
you a jackarse or something or does
yopur mother just look like one?"

Yeah I got the world's biggest mouth
and I still cannot find a tablet to cure itl