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12 Jun 2011, 11:48 am

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I do not think the people that created the word were being polite.

it is quite surprising to me that you do not know that "asperger" is the surname of the person who the syndrome is named after. are you really a CEO? goodness. groundwork is essential.

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what about him? i have never heard of him.

anyway, i could not care less about the structure of the word "asperger", and if you do, then i would question whether someone who is snagged on the pronunciation of a word that he does not even know the origins of, should be trusted as a CEO of operations like you allegedly are.

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12 Jun 2011, 11:48 am

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I personally dislike the sound of "Asperger's" because it is bitter to me (sensory association), not because people can make it sound ridiculous.

The reason I dislike the sound of the word "Asperger's" is because the word is pronounced like "ass-burgers". Yes it sounds funny just saying it, but as those of us with AS know, the condition is no laughing matter.

I don't know why anyone pronounces it that way. It's German.

I usually say "Ahs-pehr-gehrz"

I think in the UK, New Zealand, Australia, etc, they say "Ahs-pehr-jehrz."

I pronounce it the "European" way only in my head, but in many of the youtube videos of aspies talking about AS, they pronounce it "Ahs-pehr-jehrz". Then again, many have European accents. If I say "Asperger" like "Ahs-pehr-jehrz", I find that it tends to sound awkward to other people here in the Pacific Northwest.

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12 Jun 2011, 11:49 am

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The reality of the word is however that of the clear spoken similarity.

In America, and only amongst the humour-impaired, where "ass" apparently means so much more than it does in the rest of the world.
Disliking the word because of its overall sound alone is something entirely different.

As Chevand says, "Asperger" is a surname and I assume there are relatives of Hans still around. So you want to ban a surname?

Parochial at best, pointless semantics at worst.
How many other words should be banned on the basis of their sound similarity to others - should people be discouraged from describing a punt?
How about a male chicken? That's clearly disgusting. :wink:

Sorry ci. I simply cannot take your stance seriously.

It was a joke. Just calling people immature and ignorant gets old. I needed a bit of a come back to surprise folks like them. After-all calling people dumb over laughing over something (ignorant) is a bit extreme. But yes personally the word is foul. The news people on that video are obviously saying foul words.

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12 Jun 2011, 11:50 am

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I think in the UK, New Zealand, Australia, etc, they say "Ahs-pehr-jehrz."

Yep.
The American pronunciation at the start is more like "has" but AIUI the correct pronunciation is more like "far".

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12 Jun 2011, 11:51 am

SyphonFilter wrote:

I think it's more precise - the German way is with the hard G. Anglophone countries that are not the US seem to pronounce it with the J/soft G sound.

I'm in the PNW and I go ahead with the German pronunciation. I don't care what others thin, they're mispronouncing it all the time.

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12 Jun 2011, 11:54 am

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ci wrote:

I do not think the people that created the word were being polite.

it is quite surprising to me that you do not know that "asperger" is the surname of the person who the syndrome is named after. are you really a CEO? goodness. groundwork is essential.

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Got to get to the point of making fun of a person instead of a word huh. Yes I am the president of my company. As I said before if you had read and I trust that you would read if you are to say what you said but obviously didn't Is I know about Dr. Asperger's. The initial post was in part a joke. Some people like to take a joke and others do not. Still the word sounds like butt and burgers. People in the news are saying butt and burgers. It's really clearly said as butt and burgers. Do people in the media not notice this. It reminds me of the movie name Meet the Fockers. That's another word where people are allowed to curse without censorship..

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12 Jun 2011, 11:58 am

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Still the word sounds like butt and burgers. People in the news are saying butt and burgers. It's really clearly said as butt and burgers. Do people in the media not notice this. It reminds me of the movie name Meet the Fockers. That's another word where people are allowed to curse without censorship..

Like I said earlier: in America, so the "joke" is limited in scope.
Also, no-one is cursing. That's all in your mind.

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12 Jun 2011, 11:59 am

Everything we feel, see and hear is technically in our minds. But for sure they are saying the word "ass". Some people consider "ass" a curse word and some do not. I think it's a serious issue and I will contact my congressman.

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12 Jun 2011, 12:01 pm

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12 Jun 2011, 12:06 pm

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Verdandi wrote:

I think in the UK, New Zealand, Australia, etc, they say "Ahs-pehr-jehrz."

Yep.
The American pronunciation at the start is more like "has" but AIUI the correct pronunciation is more like "far".

The American pronunciation is silly, like if we all wandered around saying "rend-ez-vooz" instead of rendezvous.

I do not say it is silly because it sounds like someone is swearing, though. I say it is silly because it is incorrect.

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12 Jun 2011, 12:07 pm

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I agree that saying "Ahs-pehr-jehrz" is more precise, but the few times that I've ever said it that way, the others whom I'm talking to have said, "don't you mean assburgers?". After I tell them, "no, it's European in origin, therefore it's technically pronounced "Ahs-pehr-jehrz", they say, "dude, it's an assburger!", and then they laugh. I don't really want to explain to others why the Americanized way sounds wrong, so I've just learned to go along with it.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I should just say "Ahs-pehr-jehrz" and enlighten the idiots who make fun of how the condition is pronounced. All I need to do is explain it to them in a way that's not insulting their intelligence.

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12 Jun 2011, 12:10 pm

I personally dislike the sound of "Asperger's" because it is bitter to me (sensory association), not because people can make it sound ridiculous.[/quote]

Yeah me too.

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12 Jun 2011, 12:10 pm

I don't believe the media are idiots. However they are clearly saying butt and burgers. I don't see why people have not made much mention of this before. You would think the media would know better.

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12 Jun 2011, 12:14 pm

Verdandi wrote:

The American pronunciation is silly, like if we all wandered around saying "rend-ez-vooz" instead of rendezvous.

It rather reminds me of "eye-rak" vs. "ih-rak". :wink:

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I do not say it is silly because it sounds like someone is swearing, though. I say it is silly because it is incorrect.

Yeah. Actually, if I wanted to go "all ci-like" on it, I could claim that the German pronunciation should have a similar curse-word effect on us, because the start is then nearer to "arse" - our version of "ass".
But I won't...

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12 Jun 2011, 12:15 pm

ci wrote:

I don't believe the media are idiots. However they are clearly saying butt and burgers. I don't see why people have not made much mention of this before. You would think the media would know better.

The horse is dead, ci.
Further flogging won't make it more dead. :wink:

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12 Jun 2011, 12:24 pm

Alright but when my support workers and girlfriend see me laughing for no reason they have already figured out why so it's not a secret anymore.

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