What do you find hard to accept that Aspies do?

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I dont know many aspies, but excessive talking could annoy me, even though I can do it myself sometimes

Maybe if I switch medications I could find something else unbearable...[about myself]

Trying to gain acceptance in normal society, I'd say.

i find it hard to accept that so many aspies have right-wing politics.

It's not gonna happen I'm sad to say .

Neither do I seeing as how I'm an introvert myself.

My objection is everyone with "social awkwardness," or has trouble relating to other people being lumped in with "autism." ASDs are a lot more than just trouble socializing, and a label can only be diluted so much before it becomes useless.

I guess it's more a case of I don't get what's "sexy" about being "autistic" as opposed to just "introverted" when you don't stim, have a need for routine, deal with change just fine, ect. I feel the same way about people with kids, a spouse, a steady career, good grades in school, who decide half way through grad. school that they "suffer" from ADHD.



Precisely. I didn't even recognize I was abnormal let alone pine away for normalcy.

I also don't get why a supposed Aspie would care so much about fashion, personal appearance, looking sexy, or what other people do in their spare time. ASDs are supposed to be a social/communication deficit and the aforementioned suggests a highly "social" way of viewing the world.

I smell bullplop, professionally DXed or not.

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Caring about one's appearance doesn't really have anything to do with sociality, it's more on the basis of vanity than anything. One can want to look their best for their own confidence, not necessarily to please other people or be social in any way.

The social communication deficient aspects of ASD's are about actual communication in relation to other people in a face to face medium, not the way someone "views the world".

And "vanity" largely deals with considering how other people see you.

From Wikipedia:





And the "communication deficits" in autism are related to how one views the world.

"Stuttering" is a communication hindrance, but I don't consider it as having anything to do with autism.

I remain somewhat skeptical of people who have an inherently "social" outlook actually being on the spectrum.

It's hard to accept the fact that the majority of Aspies struggle getting into and maintaining relationships because people with AS lack superficial qualities such as reading body language,poor eye contact. People with AS seem to be very genuine and don't put on airs and in my opinion, they are very good qualities but they are not characteristics that will make one successful when it comes to dating.It is almost like you have to sell yourself.

Wow. This is very true, and very well said. The reason Aspies can intergrate into the specific culture is because the intellectual abilities are intact, and if you are able to excel in those abilities you can practically do anything. You can understand the culture.



This is my life.



See above.

I find it hard to accept that Aspies have almost uncontrollable stims and somewhat crippling sensory issues. I have shaken those things off ages ago. And I don't think it's so inherently connected to ASD.

^^^^

Brain injury .

Vanity as defined by dictionary:
"Excessive pride in or admiration of one's own appearance or achievements."
The vanity you've described is a belief about how other see you, the one I'm talking about is actual vanity in one's self image in relation to one's confidence, not other people's views.

One can view the world as happy and full of opportunity, but that doesn't make the person sociable. Social behavior is established through connections in the brain, connections that don't exist in a lot of autistic people. This is stuff that people are born with, it's not really how someone sees the world.

I don't have that. Aspies don't either.

I don't have that. Aspies don't either.[/quote

well I did .

Oh, ok. Then I can understand it. I can understand that others has it as well, I just find it hard to digest out of how I think personally and my experiences with what is most likely Asperger's.

"Connections in the brain" have a direct effect on a person's perception of the world. I'm not talking about an individual's personal philosophy or opinions here.

Without going into excessive detail, I view humans like I would any other primates. Humans are inherently a social species as dictated by natural selection and our evolutionary path. The way our primate brains interpret the world around us is often a direct reflection of our "social template." Many of the common, everyday human behaviors and actions that we take for granted are actually a direct reflection of our being a highly social primate species. It influences our existence down to the minute details of daily living.

Autistic-type brains have a huge dent in the aforementioned "social template." For whatever the reason, it's unplugged, loose, malfunctioning, whatever. Now, I would never attempt to un-DX someone, but let it suffice to say there are certain people I'm rather skeptical of as their "social template" appears to be operating just fine.

And, IMHO, "social communication" =/= "social template."

I believe there's a big difference between people who merely have trouble communicating with other people because they have trouble communicating with other people, and people who have a wiggy "social template," which is known as "autism." Communication difficulties can be caused by many more things other than "autism;" which is one of the reasons they're including "Social Communication Disorder" in the DSM-V: to differentiate between AUTISTIC people (wiggy social template), and people who have trouble with social communication (not necessarily a wiggy social template).

Hence, an autistic person's communication problems are in direct relation to how their brain processes the world around them ("perception"), which, in humans, the social landscape is an integral part.

Obviously, the above is naught but my unprofessional opinion, so feel free to disagree.

The only trait that seems linked to AS that I find annoying is when people have super-restricted diets. I don't mean something like being a vegetarian, or only eating Chinese food, or eating breakfast every meal, but when they will only eat like five things. Most people with AS don't do this, but I've met two who do (maybe they also have OCD?), and it requires a lot of patience. With both of them it was favorite childhood foods - macaroni and cheese, peanut butter sandwiches, etc.