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are you in a relationship?
i am/had been married/relationship 50%  50%  [ 65 ]
never relationship but had friends 22%  22%  [ 28 ]
relationship but no friends 6%  6%  [ 8 ]
no friends/relationship, family only 14%  14%  [ 18 ]
none, dont spend time with family 8%  8%  [ 11 ]
Total votes : 130

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27 Nov 2014, 3:48 pm

Wow, this topic became really ugly, really fast.

I am happily married what will be 8 years in January.
Before that I only had 2 semi-serious relationships that were pretty abusive.

I never in a million years thought I would find true love and understanding but I did.


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27 Nov 2014, 4:13 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
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there have been a few times when I suspected a girl was into me, didn't act due to fear of explosive rejection and then later found out she wasn't into to me after all. There's that benefit. Does the benefit outweigh the cost? Certainly not. Would the rejection have been "explosive"? Not necessarily (that was just the way I imagined it).

It sounds just like me in my youth. I think I felt guilty about having romantic feelings, certainly embarrassed about them, and that made it worse.

Me, embarrassed? Sure. Sometimes I feel like that's my prime motive. I quite my job and now I'm trying to break into a different field chiefly because my old job was too embarrassing (only embarrassing when I told people about it in too much detail but still...) Sure I want companionship but there are also times when being the only single person in the room gets embarrassing as well. And yet I pretend everything is fine. I pretend I have no desire for female companionship because being "needy" would be a further embarrassment. I've tried bringing it up in the past but got shamed twice over, once for being single and twice for complaining about it. After that I got in the habit of pretending I like being single.
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I've heard people say you should befriend a girl before entering into a relationship with them and I've heard people say you shouldn't. Maybe it's a matter of time. If you spend years being friends with them it could be a bad thing. Think of your long time friends of the opposite sex. Now imagine yourself in a relationship with one of them. Does it seem kind of weird? Probably. Because you've spent to many years being friends with them.

I agree it's all about time.....even "sex first" relationships would have some kind of introductory phase first. I also agree that if the friendship thing goes on for years without turning into a relationship, it might well get typecast like that. I think if it stops deepening that can happen. If it's not growing, that's a sign that there isn't enough there for it to become a relationship. It also depends on what bonds the two people have with others. A young person might have a number of people as buddies and potential partners, or their friendship with you might be unusual and therefore special. All that can be found out with a few simple questions.

Eh, I usually blame myself. If I would have made a move on my female friends years ago instead of being shy. And now not one of them is still single.
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If a male and a female start making small talk, I think prior attachments are usually declared pretty quickly, e.g. "my boyfriend and I really like that place."

Some girls do that on first meeting. It's sort of obvious they're doing it on purpose but I don't blame them since it makes things a lot easier. Then again, I've known girls who went for months before mentioning that they had a boyfriend so that means when I meet a girl who doesn't mention having a boyfriend I think "does that mean she's single or does that mean she's one of those girls who doesn't know the trick of mentioning her boyfriend as a sign she's not single

In my software testing course they call it "The Pesticide Paradox". They say if an exterminator sees a bug he'll know immediately the house is infested but if he doesn't see a bug that doesn't prove the house has no bugs.
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Desire for a relationship isn't usually so readily declared, but if both people are getting on well, they might start talking about relationships in general, and exchange the info that way without any drama. People seem to sound each other out in ways like that.

Yeah, maybe I should try that.

At least I'd feel less crappy if I got rejected by a girl who was single. I'd feel like less of a homewrecker that way.

Girls keep on glancing at me on the train, at first I thought it meant they were into me but they never look happy to see me.


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28 Nov 2014, 1:06 am

I am engaged at 33. This has been my only long term relationship, but I do OK with friendships in general. However my friends are usually people with a lived experience of mental illness, so we can be a little odd together. Until recently I thought the only issue I had was bipolar.



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28 Nov 2014, 1:12 am

No, I've never had a romantic relationship. I've had friends, but not currently. I don't spend time with family.



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28 Nov 2014, 3:14 am

surprised to see such a high yes count.
how did u do it?
where'd u guys meet ur partners?



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28 Nov 2014, 2:25 pm

Not married, no friends. (Amazed at how much energy both would require, particularly being in a 24/7 relationship and knowing how not to be self-conscious at all times)



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28 Nov 2014, 4:16 pm

anthropic_principle wrote:
surprised to see such a high yes count.
how did u do it?
where'd u guys meet ur partners?


I met my husband online.


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28 Nov 2014, 5:06 pm

I'm 44 & not married or have no boyfriend, I'm happy that I don't have a guy.



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28 Nov 2014, 6:04 pm

LoveforLoki wrote:
I met my husband online.

Dating site or general forum?


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28 Nov 2014, 6:21 pm

I've been married close to 10 years but I had a pretty awful time up to my mid 30s with females and never maintained a relationship. Infact it was sheer luck I ended up with my wife.

To those of you still single and wanting to be in a relationship I'm afraid you have no choice but to keep trying. My advice
- be yourself, be positive/comfortable with who you are, don't try and mask it. Once you are comfortable with your social identity then don't be afraid to make social contacts
- don't try too hard, just make sure you make friends first and maintain these friendships for a relatively long time
- Once you know somebody then if there is chemistry things will happen, if you feel there's no mutual chemistry then just stay friends
- don't be desperate, it's just our biological urges/hormones controlling our behaviour. It's not like society cares if we are in a relationship or not. Do it because you want to, not because you feel there is a invisible social pressure or because you want to have sex whenever you want...(believe me, the latter is not that important after a while)



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28 Nov 2014, 7:36 pm

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I loose interest in girls easily. If she's not %100 perfect physically or if she looks like she will get fat by middle age I usually end up breaking up with them after they say they want to be with me forever. Sad really but that's how us men are programmed. Makes me not want to be human or participate in dating at all if these are the terms pre wired in my brain.

I think I should just stay single, I hate having someone dependant on me and taking away my free time. I don't want to have to give someone constant attention. I don't want to get sucked into marriage or children and resent it for the rest of my life. I've dated lots of girls and I just don't see the point if how much I love her depends on how physicall attractive she is and how cute her face is...that's just messed up.

The worst part is that there is no escaping this kind of thinking, I've tried many times but the primative part of my brain just wins in the end.


the reason you are attracted to pretty faces and nice bodies is because we are attracted to healthy people. this is perfectly natural and you shouldn't want to "escape this kind of thinking" as you said. a "cute" face can imply a lot of things about who a girl is. a lot of times it is not the shape of someone's face that makes them attractive, but rather their facial expressions, which can say a lot about who the person is. these things can be hard to pick up on for people with autism and aspergers, so if you find yourself liking or disliking a girl based on whether or not she has a "cute face," you're picking up on something deeper about who she is on the inside. same goes for someone who is physically unfit or fat. it implies that they are lazy and don't take care of themselves very well. this says a lot about who they are. always trust your instincts, especially when it comes to relationships.



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28 Nov 2014, 9:13 pm

geometrictunneling wrote:
I loose interest in girls easily. If she's not %100 perfect physically or if she looks like she will get fat by middle age I usually end up breaking up with them after they say they want to be with me forever. Sad really but that's how us men are programmed.


Please speak for yourself, not for all men.


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28 Nov 2014, 10:54 pm

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a lot of times it is not the shape of someone's face that makes them attractive, but rather their facial expressions, which can say a lot about who the person is.

So they need good facial expressions? Do guys need good facial expressions too? I'm not very good at controlling my facial expressions. Mostly I can only do it with a mirror. I wouldn't know which ones are the right ones to use anyway.


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28 Nov 2014, 11:35 pm

Robin Banks wrote:
same goes for someone who is physically unfit or fat. it implies that they are lazy and don't take care of themselves very well. this says a lot about who they are. always trust your instincts, especially when it comes to relationships.


Hmmm I'm pretty sure it doesn't always. Relationships are built on many factors - not just physical attraction.



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29 Nov 2014, 8:40 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
LoveforLoki wrote:
I met my husband online.

Dating site or general forum?


Well it was music related but we first got contact on a social network for artists.


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29 Nov 2014, 8:42 am

Shadi2 wrote:
geometrictunneling wrote:
I loose interest in girls easily. If she's not %100 perfect physically or if she looks like she will get fat by middle age I usually end up breaking up with them after they say they want to be with me forever. Sad really but that's how us men are programmed.


Please speak for yourself, not for all men.


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