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27 Oct 2007, 10:14 am

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Yoshie777 wrote:

I got 31 out of 54.

Yes, but, according to the guy who put together the test, your score would be average among the diagnosed aspies he studied, not the general population.

Mark,

I found the test the most comprehensive I have taken. It impressed me especially because it was from the perspective of AS, not of someone trying to comprehend someone AS. Would you perhaps help clarify how to read the test results?

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27 Oct 2007, 10:37 am

sinsboldly wrote:

I found the test the most comprehensive I have taken. It impressed me especially because it was from the perspective of AS, not of someone trying to comprehend someone AS. Would you perhaps help clarify how to read the test results?

Hi, Merle,

Yes, I liked it, too.

Here is what Paul Coojmans wrote:

"A questionnaire cannot diagnose. Although it was originally conceived to detect Aspergoid features, it may actually be measuring a more general disposition for psychiatric disorders without being able to point to one specific disorder."
http://paulcooijmans.lunarpages.com/pers/gaia.html

I think the point of his comment relates to the data he posted on this page:

http://paulcooijmans.lunarpages.com/stat/gaia.html

He is referring on that page to median (ordinal, or ordered, average) scores of the people he tested. For instance, he indicates that he only begins to see people with various "diagnoses" with those respondents who responded affirmatively to at least 9 statements.

Next, he notes that a diagnosis of AS is "not unlikely" with at least 17 affirmative responses and that the median score for those with diagnosed AS was 30.5 (between 30 and 31 affirmative responses).

He also lists median scores for schizoid personality disorder (31.5), bipolar disorder (23), OCD (24), ADHD ( 28 ), and depression (24.5).

Additional correlations (relationships):

Problem/median score
Procrastination/14.5
Motivation/20.5
Financial/21.5
Various social problems/23
Finding mate/friends/26
Finding/keeping a job/27
Relationship problems/28

Therefore, as he mentioned at the beginning of the test, he found correlations between various issues (not just AS) and median (average) responses to the statements. In other words, he is not diagnosing, just reporting correlations.

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27 Oct 2007, 10:58 am

I don't understand the point of some of these questions 'bitten by dogs'? Yeah, but who hasn't?

9 out of 54

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27 Oct 2007, 11:27 am

28 and I don't have Aspergers.

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27 Oct 2007, 11:28 am

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I don't understand the point of some of these questions 'bitten by dogs'? Yeah, but who hasn't?

I suspect he is trying to get at one's awareness of one's surroundings.

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27 Oct 2007, 11:39 am

I scored 34. I am undiagnosed, female.

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27 Oct 2007, 11:40 am

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Goche21 wrote:

I don't understand the point of some of these questions 'bitten by dogs'? Yeah, but who hasn't?

I suspect he is trying to get at one's awareness of one's surroundings.

There was always that mean dog on my street, very pretty, but very agressive. So much as ride a bike by the house, or jog past and it's chase you for blocks. -_-; Or the pit bull mix down the other street who did the same thing but was a little faster. ((Don't stop either or they'd bite more than once)) That's why a lot of people carried canes or golf clubs with them, which probably started the whole problem.

Questions like this are so generalized they fail to address the true reason why things happen. It's like how the psyciatrists put me as 'developmentally late' walking without looking at the fact I spent five days in the birth canal and my legs bent wrong so they couldn't support my weight.

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27 Oct 2007, 11:43 am

Goche21 wrote:

Questions like this are so generalized they fail to address the true reason why things happen. It's like how the psyciatrists put me as 'developmentally late' walking without looking at the fact I spent five days in the birth canal and my legs bent wrong so they couldn't support my weight.

Sure, but that is really expecting too much of an online self-test. As he admits, he is not diagnosing. He is merely noting correlations between raw scores (and responses to particular questions) and various diagnoses (presumably "official" ones).

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27 Oct 2007, 11:54 am

Goche21 wrote:

I don't understand the point of some of these questions 'bitten by dogs'? Yeah, but who hasn't?

9 out of 54

Obviously, some people have not been bitten by dogs, and they would have the same reaction "what is the point of 'bitten by dogs' when I haven't been?"

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27 Oct 2007, 12:00 pm

Well , having finally "got" that Sensory Processing Disorders are NOT part of aspergers it is easy to see why my own score on this test ( of 18 now, and 29 if I tick for 15 years ago) is relatively low compared to the 173 out of 200 that I get on the Aspie Quiz , because this test only ONCE uses a sensory processing symptom as possible "evidence"of Aspergers ( as compared to about 10 on the other ?)! ! It is clear that my biggest problem has been SPD , and less strongly Aspergers. ( tho now procrastination etc is being mentioned I can see how that has wrecked my life ! ! :lol: )
Thank you for posting test ; it is in interesting contrast to the Aspie Quiz and that other one that's everywhere which also has heaps of sensory stuff in it!

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27 Oct 2007, 12:23 pm

I got 23 out of 60. I'm guessing my AS is on the mild side.

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27 Oct 2007, 12:32 pm

ouinon wrote:

Thank you for posting test ; it is in interesting contrast to the Aspie Quiz and that other one that's everywhere which also has heaps of sensory stuff in it!

Yep. It is a very different sort of instrument from either the aspie-quiz or Simon Baron-Cohen's AQ test.

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27 Oct 2007, 12:36 pm

Phagocyte wrote:

28 and I don't have Aspergers.

What do you have that might account for that score then?

I thought physical disability , racial discrimination , class , and poverty could equally "explain" some of the conditions/difficulties in the list . ??

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27 Oct 2007, 1:21 pm

Goche21 wrote:

I don't understand the point of some of these questions 'bitten by dogs'? Yeah, but who hasn't?

9 out of 54

I think that question is referring to extreme shyness and gaurded body language of some aspies, they are in 'fear/defense' mode a lot of the time even without realizing it... in the same way aspies are easy targets for bullies, I imagine the more aggressive dogs that hate cowardly/fearful creatures will attack an aspie giving off defensive/fearful body language.

I know I was bitten as a child so that seemed pertinent to me.

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27 Oct 2007, 1:28 pm

23.

I've been bitten by dogs several times (once to the point of breaking the skin), but I didn't check that one because most animals really like me. I was one of those kids who was always followed home by other people's pets.

Do I miss non-verbal cues? I don't think so, but would I even know if I did so?

Am I clumsy? I'm quite good at aikido, less so at other things; possibly a little clumsier than average in day-to-day action, but given that I'm strong and fast and graceful in the dojo, I can't check that one in good conscience.

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27 Oct 2007, 1:35 pm

For your information, previous thread here

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