glutenfree diet!?

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I read in the book "geek freak and as"That when you look terrible, and you have a smelly breath, then it is not good for you.
I have a terrible skin, i am grey sometimes i look like i am a dead alive sometimes. And i have a smelly breath (but no teeth problem, and i do brush my teeth! lol).. maybe there is a like. (my son likes to have a glass of milk before going to bed, and his breath STINKS after!)

Those are also classic signs of food intolerance, especially the dead look, zombified appearance. ( gluten intolerance particularly is known for its dark semi-circular shadows under the eyes, which can even look like a pair of "black-eyes"/bruises.) And dairy is often implicated in chronic skin problems.

Good luck with any changes you make.

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you know, it makes so much sense (well i hope it will). My skin is like i am a 14 years old who doesnt know anything about clearasil ...

which is annoying because i am 27 (bouhouhou). I cannot remember how many product i used to stop having spots.

it is going to be hard without my milk. I wanted to stop having it this morning, but my hubby prepared it for me... So, tomorrow DEFINITLY, i will be without any milk, at least until end of september.
on the 1st of october i will think about it, and see if anything has improved..

Thank yesno! (lol)

I'm on a Gluten -Free diet because I actually have a severe allergy. My daughter, on the other hand, does not and her concentration in school is profoundly different since I took her off gluten. Maybe it works for some, but not in others. Then again, maybe they're getting gluten from somewhere else. You'd be surprised where it shows up.

Yeah tell me about it!! !! They put the stuff in everything and if it doesn't have gluten in it they put dairy in there instead AAAAGGHHH

I love the taste of these things I just can't eat them it's pure torture.

i sure hope there not in doritos

There isn't ( usually !) in plain salted corn-chips/tortillas, but in all flavoured varieties there will be gluten unless stated clearly gluten-free on the packet.

They use "hydrolysed vegetable protein", that is to say gluten, to "stick" the spices and flavourings onto the chips. Beware all "flavoured" crisps too!

I do wonder, in reply to "intense" 's comment, seeing how many in the population are addictively-adapted to casein/dairy and gluten/wheat, and how these food-opiods have been shown in studies to inhibit natural appetite suppressants, aswell as providing a "hit"/buzz/fuzzy high feeling, whether it is NOT an accident that one or other of the two proteins is added so often to non-essential/snack/munch/prepacked/junk/high "added-value"/nutritionally poor foods; it feeds the addiction, encourages consumption, and makes it very difficult for people to "kick" either substance. But I don't let this theory take over my life either, not like I used to, when I was still addicted to gluten, and prone to that sort of thinking!

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Last edited by ouinon on 09 Sep 2008, 3:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

hi. my name is amanda, and i am a milk addict. i have been sober for 4 weeks now. i have to tell myself "one day at a time" just like an alcoholic, because if i pretend i am going to get some milk soon, and i just can't have any today, then that helps me get through the day.

i think i am past the withdrawal symptoms, the first week or two is always pretty psycho and i yell and throw things. but the CRAVE is still there.

The first time I ever went on an exclusion diet I saw malevolent "energies" in shapes in the sheets and cracks in the wall, just like in the early stages of my bipolar breakdown years before, after travel, alcohol, lack of sleep, anti-biotics and stress had crashed my system.

The first time I broke the diet, ( after about 3 weeks dairy and gluten free) and ate icecream and carrot cake, ( the one with cream-cheese topping) I was high for hours. My pulse rate went from a healthy ( I was exercising at the time ) 60'ish to mid 90s in the space of a few minutes, and I began horribly haranguing a friend, mental cruelty style, before the buzz hit, which had me giggling and laughing more happily than I had for years, and then deeply and passionately crying my eyes out watching Catwoman slit her fluffy toys in Batman Returns at the cinema.

Went home singing on the bus, and the next day had a hangover of depression, ( bottomless black hole style) and intense weariness and clumsiness. That's when I really understood that I had a problem with dairy and gluten and sugar.

Have you ever seen the extraordinary film "Safe" by Todd Haynes, starring Julianne Moore? In which she plays a woman with a milk allergy/addiction to which she has lost her resistance, and goes on to discover a mass of chemical sensitivities, ( before tragically falling into the clutches of a self-development programme which persuades her to go on an exclusion thought-diet too, "Eliminate all negative thoughts" ! !); it's amazing.

I still cry the moment when she walks out of the house full of artificial fibres/plastics etc in the night and stands on the lawn breathing. She drinks glass after glass of milk every day.

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i've gone 3 or 4 weeks off milk before, and when i broke down and had some, a similar thing happened. i got very giggly and high. singing and laughing. then emotions pinballed all over the place. laughing and crying over small things. then sleep, sleep, sleep forever...

It is wonderful to hear somebody else's similar experiences around food. Most of the time most people think you are exaggerating/obsessing, or even mentally ill/paranoid.

I can remember how desperately painful it was to make these discoveries, ( understand with joy and relief some, at least, of the reasons for my problems) , and realise that people were listening to me with "concern", as if this was just another sign of how much of a mess I was.

In recent years this has not hurt as much, partly because I am steadier, from experience, about what it really means to me; clearer about the phenomenon: effects, extent, etc, and partly because I am no longer, or less often, eating foods which do me in mentally, so I am more calm/less easily rattled about it too.

And I am less afraid that it is a sign of my being mentally ill to think such things, ( that food and mental health are so profoundly connected, that one can be literally a food addict, etc etc) ! !

Good luck! I still get cravings, though milder now, for pizza or cake or bread from time to time even after almost a year's total abstention from gluten, and recently I ate dairy on holiday ( it was virtually impossible to avoid cream in germany; it's in everything, ... well, soups, sauces, salads, etc) and went a bit hypomanic/buzzy briefly, which took me a few days and some determination to get over after the hols.

The positive effects get more the longer you exclude.

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Several things here:
1. Ouinon, big Yes! to the addiction thing! I have Celiac Disease, and I was in denial for several years because I was *addicted* to pasta and pizza. It seemed like those were the only foods that *didn't* make my stomach hurt. Then I read how they do the damage, and it's usually what you eat afterwards that hurts, and I realized it. Three of my children have Celiac disease.

2. My oldest does *not* have Celiac Disease. She does have severe ADHD and very probably Asperger's. We tried her on a gluten-free diet for a few months, since everyone else was off of it, anyway, and my wife read some of the infamous book by that 90210 star. Well, it didn't make any difference in her ADHD or Asperger's symptoms. What *has* made a big difference is giving her Vitamins and Omega 3 supplements, and that "AttentiveChild" pill they sell at GNC.

3. In my case, being off gluten has alleviated some of the severity of my emotional issues and such. I'd be more inclined to think that food allergies are related to schizophrenia than autism. Doctors speculate that narcolepsy is carried on the same gene as autoimmune problems, and I have a history of narcolepsy. If you read the symptoms of narcolepsy and schizophrenia, they are really only differentiated by degree. BOth involve lack of sleep, hallucinations, etc.

Well, narcolepsy is one of the side effects of Celiac Disease: you can't sleep well because your intestines hurt all the time.

Since I gave up wheat (mostly; I'm not 100% wheat free), I sleep better, so I don't have narcolepsy symptoms, and I'm more emotionally stable. This, in turn, has helped me to better understand the role Aspergers, versus other factors, plays in my personality and emotions.

Before I stopped eating wheat, I would get suicidal periodically. I'm a Catholic, so that always saved me from having to go to the hospital for it: I would stop myself by saying, "Suicide's a sin, and Hell's eternal." (Did you know that suicide was almost non-existent among Catholics before Vatican II and is now at an equal rate to the general population? But I digress)

Now, in the same situations where I used to get suicidal, I recognize that I"m over-stressed, and, understanding Asperger's, I more consciously stim, rock back and forth, scream, or whatever I need to do to relieve th etension in my brain.

It is interesting you should say that because at this year's AWARES conference ( about autism ) there was a presentation and paper by Dr. Karl Reichelt about the effects of diet on neurological states/conditions, and his own work, aswell as that of Prof. F Dohan of Philadelphia, has shown that schizophrenic states are characterised by high gluten and casein derivatives. And study shows that "schizophrenia is rare where ( glutenous) grains are rare". Apparently there are overlaps with autistic profile behaviours/states, but it is not the same thing.

NB: Apparently auto-immune disorders/allergies are more common amongst AS than in the general population.

Reichelt believes that gluten exposure in infancy, in those intolerant of it, may cause an increase in construction/creation of "white matter" ( in the brain) , which AS have so much of at such an early age. And recent studies showed that ( increased) immune system activity in the brain may interfere with the normal weeding out/cleaning up process of neural connections, thus leading to the "unusually-dense" connections seen in certain areas of AS brains.

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can some one make a list of what you can eat/drink?
also, can it be possible that companies dont place it on teh ingredients of there food/drinks?

HI,

They should write it on package, for allergics...

Also you could borrow or buy this book:
"diet intervention and autism" by marilyn le breton.
there are recipes, lists, how to start the diet etc...

I was on a gluten free . milk free diet for about 8 months . I lost a lot of weight and had an average of three seizures a day , my concentration was terrible.I thought it was the stupidest thing my mom ever came up with. As long as I eat a health balanced diet with a mix of foods whole grains wheat some milk , I do much better. Unlike my grandmother who has celiac disease and is lactose intolerant she is much better without milk or wheat . I think the idea it helps epilepsy or autism is a whole lot of rubbish. Every mom I saw who put their kids on it who saw improvement just started not feeding the kids junk food which would help most people in their lives, but the placebo effect can be great for some.