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19 Dec 2008, 5:44 am

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On that site I got 45%, but my short-term memory is a disaster.

Better than I did.
I got 0% because I couldn't even take it.
Where are the instructions ?



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19 Dec 2008, 11:49 am

pensieve, I'm not good with my short term memory either, mainly from suffering some brain trauma due to a diabetic coma 6yrs ago however :( :oops: , I'm able to manage my life without too much difficulty but, yes there are times when I actually have to write things down to remember them like all of my passwords for my internet accounts which can be a hassle.. :oops: :( Beyond this there is not that much problems for me yet, from the long-term memory standing though, a great deal of wonderful memories are no longer with me as well, due to suffering short term memory troubles, it has made returning to the workplace much more difficult.. This is my take on this post. :)



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19 Dec 2008, 12:04 pm

ProfessorX wrote:
pensieve, I'm not good with my short term memory either, mainly from suffering some brain trauma due to a diabetic coma 6yrs ago however :( :oops: , I'm able to manage my life without too much difficulty but, yes there are times when I actually have to write things down to remember them like all of my passwords for my internet accounts which can be a hassle.. :oops: :( Beyond this there is not that much problems for me yet, from the long-term memory standing though, a great deal of wonderful memories are no longer with me as well, due to suffering short term memory troubles, it has made returning to the workplace much more difficult.. This is my take on this post. :)

Sorry to hear that.
Makes me grateful for the faculties I have.
I have a friend who HAD Type 1 diabetes (he now has a new pancreas) - and he has short-term memory issues that can be quite interfering.



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19 Dec 2008, 1:36 pm

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Here's a link to a classic memory game.


http://www.zefrank.com/memory/ambo/


19.7802 - wish we could see what the bell-curve for scores looks like


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12 Sep 2010, 6:55 pm

Working memory is the ability to actively hold information in the mind needed to do complex tasks such as reasoning, comprehension and learning. Working memory tasks are those that require the goal orientated active monitoring or manipulation of information or behaviors in the face of interfering processes and distractions. The cognitive processes involved include the executive and attention control of short-term memory which provide for the interim integration, processing, disposal, and retrieval of information. Working memory is a theoretical concept central both to cognitive psychology and neuroscience.

Theories exist both regarding the theoretical structure of working memory and the role of specific parts of the brain involved in working memory. Research identifies the frontal cortex, parietal cortex, anterior cingulate, and parts of the basal ganglia as crucial. The neural basis of working memory has been derived from lesion experiments in animals and functional imaging upon humans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_memory

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http://www.rsna.org/rsna/media/pr2005/Coffee.cfm (Short-term memory)(not a cure)



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12 Sep 2010, 7:58 pm

Same for me

I often forget stuff at home when I go out, but never the keys that are the only way back, it is impossible for me to repeat a phone number someone just said to me
I also loose stuff very easily

And for the technical part, there is no one specific predefined zone for the memory in the brain. This video is pretty outstanding if you want to learn more
youtube. com/watch?v=Roz_IRhGecI

(ok: for the link I don't have 5 posts yet)

Kinds of memories:
Declarative
Non declarative
Skills habits (learning)
Priming (discovering, repeating) and perceptual learning
Simple classical connoting (emotional responses (Pavlovian, fear) - skeletal responses)
Non associative learning (reflexes, insects have it)

And it seems all the brain is involved (memory can be seen as an extension of our senses)



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12 Sep 2010, 9:38 pm

23% ... ugh yes. (Second try 46%)

My phonological loop is a disaster. My visual working memory and the part that links present information to already know information (forgot how it's called) are okay, but I do pretty bad at spoken instructions etc.
Though, I got better during the last years.
I blame that on my foreign languages.
Because: Working memory is a subset of executive functions.
Decision-making is another subset of executive functions.
Distinguishing between different phonemes* in a language peruses the areas of the frontal cortex that were found important to decision-making
It might just be a coincidence that after a number of years of learning to make sense of auditory input in a number of foreign languages, my phonological loop (or auditory short term memory) suddenly is better than it used to be and it is easier for me to retain spoken information until I have a chance to write it down.
(I still am too disorganized, though ...)

*phoneme is, in short, the group of sounds that are perceived as one, for example does the word cat sound differently when spoken by people with different accents, but yet any native speaker with exposure to the accent would understand it, and can distinguish it from cut.


Oh, and my short term memory always is worse when I am preoccupied with something; usually worries.


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12 Sep 2010, 10:29 pm

I have a terrible time remembering names. I never forget a face or where I met someone, but I have a very bad time remembering names.

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13 Sep 2010, 1:12 am

I also have problems remembering things. It's one of my biggest problems. Writing things down does help but I sometimes have the same problem where as I'm writing I forget what I'm writing.
In class I try to write what the teacher's saying for my notes but in doing so I can't listen to what he's saying. Alternately if I listen to him I can't take notes and will forget much of what he's said moments after he's said it if not later. (Fortunately I was able to get a diagnosis(kinda) for the school's program and am allowed to record the classes with the audio recorder which is USB compatible so I can keep all the classes on my computer for referencing later.)

I got 22.22222% on my first try with the matching game.

I may have missed a 2 in there at the end but I don't think it effects my sore that much. I like matching games but this one was a little tricky. At first I was trying to match the patterns on the tiles regardless of color then when that didn't work I had to make myself match them by color which wasn't too hard once I started trying to ignore the patterns and to look at the tiles each as a whole.

On my second try I got 21.4285714285714%
(It doesn't put a percent symbol at the end but I assume these are percentages as that's what everyone else it putting them as).


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13 Sep 2010, 2:01 am

I got a 23.684.

My working memory is below average, I do not know about short term however. I think one problem could be that I can only focus on one image at a time-- so that I can't keep track of all the others in my mind.



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13 Sep 2010, 6:52 pm

buryuntime wrote:
I think one problem could be that I can only focus on one image at a time-- so that I can't keep track of all the others in my mind.


Understanding of memory has changed significantly in recent years and this limitation you describe here of being able to hold only one image in mind at a time has been found to be normal. In the current dominant model of memory there's a thing called a "visuospatial sketchpad" and another called a "phonological loop". These function kind of like a white-board for information you're currently working with whether it's visual or auditory respectively. The brain in most cases can only handle and process one set of input in each container, so one image or one set of sounds. But because there are two containers, we're able to handle a paired set, i.e. one sound input and one visual input at the same time without losing any function -- but when we try to handle two sets in either container then we start bogging down because we can't focus on them both at once (i.e. two images) and we have to start swapping them out to alternate our focus between them. This is what's generally known as "multitasking" -- it's the only activity we know of in which practice makes you WORSE at doing it. In other words, the more you multitask, the worse you become at multitasking. LOL

There's some good info about this memory model on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visuospatial_sketchpad


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14 Sep 2010, 9:24 am

By the way, the way I treat memory games is not to remember each individual piece, but to see it as a big picture in which I only uncover details at a time. In the case of that puzzle it's a bit more challenging than usually; it works better with distinct images (in composition as well as in the symbolic value)


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02 Nov 2010, 6:46 pm

29 percent correct (is that good?)


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