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14 May 2009, 6:19 pm

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I am eager to be social most of the time. I just seriously lack good social skills. Sometimes after socialising I do have to "wind down" a bit and stay at home for a week or so...


Same.


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14 May 2009, 6:21 pm

I know one guy with untreated ADHD(he apparently can't be treated). He hangs out with my friends and he's done nothing but annoy me for the last several months. He's hyper and immature so his annoyingness never stops. Someone should treat his ADHD or shoot him. I'm not usually like this but this guy pisses me off so much. I am nothing like him.



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14 May 2009, 6:33 pm

I have known a diagnosed, medicated ADDer who was really annoying..I think maybe it is just the person and not his diagnosis that made him annoying...we were roommates and bandmates briefly and constantly clashed..he was really really obnoxious...hyper-social...fixated on being a hipster...yeee...



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15 May 2009, 12:28 am

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I for one don't have a special interest. I have all the other symptoms under the category, but not that one. I can't keep to one thing because of my ADHD. I think that might be why I don't have the special interest thingy of AS.


That's odd that you were diagnosed as having AS since you don't have a special interest. I bet you do but don't realize it.....


No, I know it's uncommon. I indeed do not have a special interest. The interests I have are nothing different from the interests non-autistic people have.


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15 May 2009, 12:37 am

Sora wrote:
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Sora wrote:
I for one don't have a special interest. I have all the other symptoms under the category, but not that one. I can't keep to one thing because of my ADHD. I think that might be why I don't have the special interest thingy of AS.


That's odd that you were diagnosed as having AS since you don't have a special interest. I bet you do but don't realize it.....


No, I know it's uncommon. I indeed do not have a special interest. The interests I have are nothing different from the interests non-autistic people have.


If you don't mind, please share with me the interests that you DO have then.



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15 May 2009, 12:57 am

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If you don't mind, please share with me the interests that you DO have then.


Uhh, let me think about that one.

I'm interested in biology, but I don't do anything about it since I left school (I had that course at school). I role-play a bit when I have time to do that because my friends do it. It's pretty funny but it sure is a task writing responses because I'm so scatterbrained and hyper. I love musicals but it's nothing I do anything about besides dancing. I just, you know, love them because acting and singing and dancing is an awesome combination. I want to do that later? Such a great career!

I read a lot sometimes. Whenever there's a cool (fiction) book being published, I will save up and buy it. I have a lot of bus/train rides and such and reading's a good thing to do during these. There just aren't many books I'm interested in and my friends read a lot more than I because they don't think adult books about love stuff and family crises are boring.

And I like going to the cinema but I do that every couple of months only because it's expensive. I also like partying, but it's hard to go to these because they're boring when they go on for hours.

I dance ballet and modern. I often wriggle my way out of these because my ADHD means I can't concentrate on the lessons for more than 10 minutes. It's horrible, I need to get meds somehow.

I am interested in several more things, but I just can't find the time or motivation to do them. I own a keyboard, I can draw, I like singing, I like acting, I like going out in the evening, I like various sports, I'm interested in science, languages, philosophy.


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15 May 2009, 1:09 am

Sounds like you have a ton of interests but the ADHD/ADD overshadows them.

What do you do everyday? Do you spend any length of time on the computer?



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15 May 2009, 1:27 am

ChatBrat wrote:
Sounds like you have a ton of interests but the ADHD/ADD overshadows them.


Yes, several. I am someone who needs a lot of input and stimulation for new things but just doesn't stay on task for a long time.

But I think the number of my interests is rather typical and not at all related to autism as all my friends who are non-autistic have as much or - however they do that? - even more interests.

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What do you do everyday? Do you spend any length of time on the computer?


I work for most of the day and when I'm back I usually check with my family first, then with my friends on the phone but preferably online. I simultaneously spent time on here on most days to learn even more about autism to cope with it, try to check with the chit-chat on the rp. I usually do lots of other things while the computer's on because of the hyperactivity and because the computer's rather boring by itself. In the evenings, I go dancing, watch a series, talk to my mom or read a little. Occasionally I go out (whenever I can).


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15 May 2009, 2:00 am

right 'ere! That's....all I got.



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15 May 2009, 4:49 am

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That's odd that you were diagnosed as having AS since you don't have a special interest. I bet you do but don't realize it.....


AS is not a black and white/crystal clear diagnosis that comes with x number of symptoms. Some have normal social skills and i have a well developed sense of humor, but we are still on the spectrum.


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Funny..when I was assessed as having AS, the specialist said that if I have AS, then I can't have ADD..I was previously diagnosed as having ADD.


Apparently that person was not a good diagnostician since AS is known to have several comorbid conditions, like ADD/ADHD. I recommend that you never go to that person again.


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I do blank out when reading (...) and it is really annoying because it happens no matter how hard i try to force myself.


I do that alot myself. When reading, i sometime starts what we programmers call a "backgroundthread" that wanders away into some odd memory area, and it disrupts my reading to the point where i have to re-read entire sections of text. Bloody annoying.



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15 May 2009, 1:27 pm

But I thought that narrow interests is one symptom that you HAVE to have in order to qualify for a diagnosis of AS?



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15 May 2009, 1:36 pm

I have always wondered just HOW narrow the interests need to be...

I have varying interests, but they all seem to circle around a narrow hub.

As a kid, I would insist on checking out books from the library that were all on the same topic or theme....But that would periodically change.



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15 May 2009, 1:50 pm

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I know one guy with untreated ADHD(he apparently can't be treated). He hangs out with my friends and he's done nothing but annoy me for the last several months. He's hyper and immature so his annoyingness never stops.


I've had to live with someone like this for most of my life, so this kind of behaviour seems normal to me. 8O

Back in the old days, this type of behaviour would have been treated with "a good hiding".
He received plenty of that when he was younger.

Everyone else seems boring compared to him lol :lol:, but I see why other people could get annoyed with him. It is like talking to a brick wall at times, so I do see where you're coming from.

He's like a child in a grown man's body and hasn't stopped doing practical jokes or being silly.

I know people like this and they really don't mean to be annoying, they only want to be friendly. They honestly believe that they are wittty and clever, and are right all the time!

When he says he's listening, he changes topic every two seconds and talks at me. It can be frustrating at times. According to him, he's the best person in the world so that makes him (according to him) 100% right and everyone else 100% wrong if they disagree with him.

He can go on and on about silly jokes he's made up and go off at extreme tangents. He doesn't pay attention to what people say very well.

Again, because I've been around someone like this, and because I'm a little bit like this myself, I can tolerate people like this quite well.

I stress that most people like this really don't mean any harm and are honestly oblivious to the idea that they annoy others.



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15 May 2009, 2:12 pm

It's vague because you think "okay I have had several special interests but I get bored with them and move on to another" So my guess is you need to have a special interest of some kind that preoccupies your thoughts and it includes more than one over a time span. The lucky ones are those who can stay interested in one thing long enough to be an expert and they can somehow benefit from this expertise by marketing their skills and interest.
One example of my special interest: antique keys. I would go to several antique stores in one day looking for antique keys and if I found any I would buy them. I went to New Orleans and was drawn to the old keys in the French Quarter's shops. I could have been drawn to anything but I wasn't. It was the keys that stood out and the keys that I noticed. I used to go on these quests for antique keys and I dreamed about owning every antique key that ever existed and using these keys as some kind of market niche, one that I could control the price of because I owned them all. Of course, I couldn't fulfill my dream of finding and buying all the antique keys. There's just too many.


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15 May 2009, 2:22 pm

ChatBrat wrote:
But I thought that narrow interests is one symptom that you HAVE to have in order to qualify for a diagnosis of AS?



No, according to DSM-IV, the criteria is:

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(I) Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:

(A) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(B) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(C) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(D) lack of social or emotional reciprocity

(II) Restricted repetitive & stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:

(A) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(B) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(C) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(D) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects


To sum up: Two symptoms from the first point and one manifestation of the second point.

Other symptoms are also noted in Autists and Aspies, but they are probably not so common so you can use it for diagnosis - compare: even if you can read in this forum that many Auties/Aspies prefer to walk fast, it is not enough to make a scientific observation based on an limited internet poll (it could be worth exploring though by a psychologist...)



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15 May 2009, 2:36 pm

(A) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus

I guess this one is common so people focus on it and think it is necessary for the diagnosis.

So why do people think AS means lacking empathy?