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28 Jun 2010, 7:14 pm

I'm sorry if I'm repeating someone else's point, but I wonder if they are dismissing Neli's account of the incident and assuming he is lying because they can't believe anyone would have such excellent recall. Are there any AS experts that can validate that Neli's ability to recall such detail can be an aspect of Asperger's?



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28 Jun 2010, 7:19 pm

I thought it was common knowledge with any doctor who worked with AS patients. Being unable to filter incoming sensory information makes it very likely that you'll remember things in great detail. It's sorting through and finding the significant details that's the hard part.


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28 Jun 2010, 7:26 pm

In one mailing list I'm on we went around and one of us could remember comments from prison guards as far back as 1970. All of us who had encounters with cops could recall them years later or decades. Some of us needed memory triggered others could remember by choice but all of us had detailed memory for such things.


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28 Jun 2010, 9:48 pm

Restraining people from behind out of the blue can backfire bad. Whilst it offers a large margin of safety to the police, if the individual who is to be restrained responds accordingly, it goes south fast and you have assault and battery against a police officer in the least (felony there), and judges always side with the police when it's only based on word and there's no evidence to support either side (my police officer lecturer told me this).



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28 Jun 2010, 10:42 pm

Aimless wrote:
I'm sorry if I'm repeating someone else's point, but I wonder if they are dismissing Neli's account of the incident and assuming he is lying because they can't believe anyone would have such excellent recall. Are there any AS experts that can validate that Neli's ability to recall such detail can be an aspect of Asperger's?


I don't understand why they assume someone be lying if they remember something very well. I mean if they knew what they did, why would they think the person is lying when they remember exactly what happened in the incident?



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28 Jun 2010, 11:13 pm

I just hope that he gets released, soon.


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29 Jun 2010, 6:35 am

Those cops are f*cking imbeciles. Kill them.


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03 Sep 2010, 8:07 pm

I just read a new post from his Mother - he is still in jail. Does anyone know of an attorney who has experience with this kind of case, or a possible link to one? This poor woman and her son are desperate and should not have to go through this any longer.



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03 Sep 2010, 9:06 pm

What the hell? That's unexplainable. I can't even find the word to describe this kind of situation.

One of the few cases where, it's really clear, that evil exists. On the police's side, no less.



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03 Sep 2010, 9:25 pm

This is terrible. this should nto be alowed.



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03 Sep 2010, 9:29 pm

That is very sad news. I have that kind of memory too and know how that works, and police brutality is nothing new. I hope something can be done for Neli and his mother to rectify this situation right away.



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03 Sep 2010, 10:14 pm

Was your son able to retain an attourney. I don't know what it is like in the US with respect to the right to a lawyer, but in Canada, the police are required to read a detainee their rights, and assist them in attaining a lawyer promptly. If this does not happen, the defendant can file a Charter notice in the court and whatever the police say or do to try and make someone confess, will be disregarded in court.
Upon reading the articles, I can see that in your son's case, that upon finding no weapon, the police still tried to further detain him although there was no reasonable grounds to do so. With that in mind, that falls under the definition of false arrest and imprisonment.
Furthermore, when he affirmed his rights and tried to walk away, they grabbed him from behind without saying anything. A reasonable person would have reacted in the same way as your son. He was being grabbed without provocation and defended himself accordingly.The officers should be charged with aggrivated assault and a hate crime since this seemed to be motivated by racism.


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03 Sep 2010, 10:27 pm

Sadly, it rings true. Recalling the incident in excellent detail is highly congruent to an autistic person's typical way of recounting things, too - the times I had some unfair action from a counselor session to the security restraining me for "not looking normal", when recalling it later I could write as much as five pages of narrative detailing what everyone said and did on some incident as small as a teacher misrepresenting my words. This kind of thing only increases the anger I feel when people ignorantly proclaim those seeing discrimination based on race, ability, gender, orientation, etc. are overly sensitive, looking for excuses, or making it up.


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04 Sep 2010, 12:16 pm

cops are a**holes. there always profiling me when im out walking waiting for me to act like im on drugs so they can stop me and ask me where im comming from or going. i'd like to live somewhere were they had more training on spotting suspisious behavior and someone who had a disability because im shure i look suspisious all the time but im just not a criminal



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04 Sep 2010, 6:52 pm

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That doesn't even make sense. I don't know how someone young enough to be on the police force would be old enough to remember "cracking whips" on anyone's back. If he's going to be a racist he should at least get his information together. lol. Anyway, I really don't how people think they can get away with anything like this these days. Did he think the boy wouldn't be able to tell anyone? Did hr think he was non-verbal or something?


The officer is 55 years old. So all of his racial "jargon" is actually quite age appropriate.


Appropriate to the cop, but not likely something a kid would come up with.
I am inclined to believe the kid.

Might be influenced that I (as a white male) have also had trouble with pollice - cuffed so tight i bled, shoved in a car, bag dumped over the trunk, wallet drawn apart, patted down, threats to take my bike, to take the 200$ in my wallet as 'proceeds of a crime' (I had a bank receipt in there!), etc etc. They gave me 5 tickets. All of which were dismissed in court.

It was a traumatic experience, to say the least.



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04 Sep 2010, 11:07 pm

I believe it. Reports like this is why I don't trust law enforcement officials. It's outrageous and it disgusts me reading about it.