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What is your level of education?
Diagnosed with an ASD and some HS 6%  6%  [ 7 ]
Not professionally diagnosed with an ASD + some HS 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Diagnosed with an ASD and HS graduate 11%  11%  [ 14 ]
Not professionally diagnosed with an ASD + HS graduate 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Diagnosed with an ASD and some CC or university 13%  13%  [ 16 ]
Not professionally diagnosed with an ASD + some CC or uni 8%  8%  [ 10 ]
Diagnosed with an ASD and CC graduate 5%  5%  [ 6 ]
Not professionally diagnosed with an ASD + CC graduate 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Diagnosed with an ASD and have a Bachelor's degree 14%  14%  [ 17 ]
Not professionally diagnosed with an ASD + have a Bachelor's degree 17%  17%  [ 21 ]
Diagnosed with an ASD and have a Master's or PHD 15%  15%  [ 18 ]
Not professionally diagnosed and have a Master's or PHD 5%  5%  [ 6 ]
Other 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 124

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21 Feb 2012, 2:50 am

auntblabby wrote:
MagicToenail wrote:
IQ tests arn't a great predictor of intelligence.

but they are a useful MEASURE of intelligence at the time of testing. what i want to know, is if they also are a good PREDICTOR of life success?


Shorter answer:This is a very good question...there are many problems with IQ tests (not culture fair, maybe not sensitive to certain disorders etc.) but they actually are valid and reliable predictors of school success...which is why they're still so heavily relied on despite all the problems with them.

Longer answer : There is a positive correlation btwn IQ and academic achievement..... higher IQ= both more education and better grades in school. This means that school achievement and IQ are related. However it's not a very high correlation so it also means other variables (like motivation) are related to academic achievement............IQ doesn't account for ALL of the variance in academic achievement. Correlational studies have also shown that ppl with higher IQ's tend to live a little longer and earn more money. However correlations just mean two variables are RELATED...they don't say anything about CAUSALITY. So.....having a higher IQ doesn't necessarily cause ppl to do better in school....it may be that ppl who have higher IQ's and ppl who do well in school both tend to come from high income families (and thus have more opportunities....more free time to learn etc), and because of this third variable (income) IQ and education are related. Or ppl with high IQ's and ppl w more education both tend to be more motivated or people with high IQ's and people with more education both tend to wear purple shoes a etc. etc.

So yes IQ is related to success in school and work (and maybe even longevity) but not necessarily because having a higher IQ actually CAUSES ppl to be successful at these things.

Also this doesn't mean that everyone with a high IQ achieves this success.....or that everyone with a low IQ doesn't. My younger sister has a genius IQ and she is now 25 and just started a community college program. She dropped our of university twice and CC once already. She did not get good grades in uni either. A boy who was in the gifted program at my elementary school and was top of the class in math (and won some kind of award for math at the time ) had a LOT of difficulty getting his .B.A. and graduated at 26 with a 3 year .B.A. (which we have in Canada....it's like a "just pass" degree which you can't use to get your Master's .....you have to do 4 years if you want to pursue advanced degrees) and a C average! In both cases they were not very conscientious students......they didn't give school the time and energy required. I had this problem the first time I went to uni too.