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21 Oct 2012, 4:28 pm

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Yeah, in the current economy at least, you're much better off having the math/spatial skills than having the verbal ones.


Indeed, this is one of the biggest differences between NLD and AS. All the things that NLD can do pay very little and/or are often not a secure full-time position (humanities teacher, translator, editing, writer, etc.), whereas the things that many aspies can do (science, math, engineering) can get you jobs that pay well or are full-time positions.

The other big difference is many aspies aren't good at the social thing but they also don't want it, which makes them sometimes seem aloof and keep their dignity that way. NLD are known for wanting friends very much and constantly trying, ridiculously and inevitably putting their foot in their mouth and being rejected.


Well some people with ASD are 'active but odd" they seek social interaction just inappropriately.



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21 Oct 2012, 5:30 pm

And if you look for the threads "AS or Schizoid PD?", you will find many posts saying things like "schizoids don't like social interaction, while many aspies want but fail in that"



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21 Oct 2012, 5:35 pm

Another point we have to remember is that the verbal vs. non-verbal intelligence is not the classical "Humanities vs. Sciences" or the "Words vs. Numbers" dichotomy - for starters, mathematical reasoning is (or was) usually considered a sub-scale of "verbal IQ", not of "non-verbal IQ"



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21 Oct 2012, 11:12 pm

Moondust wrote:
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Indeed, this is one of the biggest differences between NLD and AS. All the things that NLD can do pay very little and/or are often not a secure full-time position (humanities teacher, translator, editing, writer, etc.), whereas the things that many aspies can do (science, math, engineering) can get you jobs that pay well or are full-time positions.


It seems having NVLD, as I do (was diagnosed with it as a child, while I was only diagnosd with AS as an adult) means you have the disadvantages of AS without any of the advantages.



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22 Oct 2012, 12:47 am

Well, maybe if we and/or our parents were aware of and knowledgeable about NLD from our very young age, we could use it to our advantage, eg. learn several sought-after languages that are a key combination to find a high-paying job in international organizations. That's how I make a living, so I can only imagine the alluring possibilities if I had invested in studying more, and more strategic, languages. But that's not something we can do when we discover autism after adolescence. Languages have to be studied as early as possible to excel at them.


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28 Oct 2014, 11:57 am

I think that "NLD" is a PDD also. Classic Asperger's is for me an atypical variant of Kanneric autism. NLD is not just a learning disorder - it is serious and complex developmental disability. I think that I would receive diagnosis of NLD in North America - in Poland I received AS diagnosis. In Poland i have a PDD, in America probably just a LD. It is LARGE difference.

"NLD" with social, emotional and behavioral (SEB) problems is a PDD (F84.5), a type of autism ("soft" autism, not "hard" Kanneric one), and NLD without SEB symptoms is a form of its phenotype. I have many "special" interests and other starnge symptoms. It is not a learning disorder. It looks even as a mild McDD, I suppose some mental disorders in some members of my family - it may be hereditary, one of my siblings has some AS traits.

I think that HFA and "NLD" should be gathered under one name. Let's be not elitarists.



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